Anonymous
Post 06/27/2023 19:17     Subject: Thank God I’m an Atheist
Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to believe there’s a god who’s all powerful and yet allows so much horror and violence in the world.


That's what finished me.

Horrific child abuse.

A child born with a disability, and then dealing with cancer 4 times before he was even a teenager. Cruelty.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2023 19:11     Subject: Thank God I’m an Atheist
Anonymous wrote:To be clear is this atheists only thread?


As in no alternate thoughts/beliefs will be tolerated?
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2023 19:01     Subject: Re:Thank God I’m an Atheist
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hey that's a catchy song ... so thanks!

I think i'm more in the 'agnostic' camp b/c i figure there MIGHT be things beyond what we can perceive in the material world, i just haven't seen enough evidence to lay any bets in my own life ... esp since many gods seem to be jealous of each other ..

But I will confess: When someone I know has a loved one die, it sounds lame (to me) to say "You're in our thoughts," so I still say "you're in our prayers" even though I don't pray.


"In our prayers" sounds super lame to me.


Why? What is your understanding of the word "prayers"?


People are looking at life through a lens of religion instead of their own views.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2023 17:59     Subject: Re:Thank God I’m an Atheist
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hey that's a catchy song ... so thanks!

I think i'm more in the 'agnostic' camp b/c i figure there MIGHT be things beyond what we can perceive in the material world, i just haven't seen enough evidence to lay any bets in my own life ... esp since many gods seem to be jealous of each other ..

But I will confess: When someone I know has a loved one die, it sounds lame (to me) to say "You're in our thoughts," so I still say "you're in our prayers" even though I don't pray.


What's the difference between "in our thoughts" and "in our prayers"?

To me, prayers are just thoughts directed at some mystical being (who never responds, so not exactly helpful).



That's not how I think of prayer. The mystical being thing is offensive, btw. You are turning people's beliefs into a cartoon.


So it is an insult to say a god is mythical?

What do you say about all the gods you don't believe in?


No response here?
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2023 16:48     Subject: Re:Thank God I’m an Atheist
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hey that's a catchy song ... so thanks!

I think i'm more in the 'agnostic' camp b/c i figure there MIGHT be things beyond what we can perceive in the material world, i just haven't seen enough evidence to lay any bets in my own life ... esp since many gods seem to be jealous of each other ..

But I will confess: When someone I know has a loved one die, it sounds lame (to me) to say "You're in our thoughts," so I still say "you're in our prayers" even though I don't pray.


What's the difference between "in our thoughts" and "in our prayers"?

To me, prayers are just thoughts directed at some mystical being (who never responds, so not exactly helpful).



That's not how I think of prayer. The mystical being thing is offensive, btw. You are turning people's beliefs into a cartoon.


Mystical means "having a spiritual meaning or reality that is neither apparent to the senses nor obvious to the intelligence."

I think it perfectly describes all the gods humans believe in.

And they are simply beliefs. Equal to mine in that I don't believe in a mystical being.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2023 16:31     Subject: Thank God I’m an Atheist
Anonymous wrote:OMG you religion lovers are too much.


I thank God that we still have freedom to choose whatever religion or non religion we feel comfortable with.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2023 16:17     Subject: Thank God I’m an Atheist
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree. Especially as a woman. How can you participate in an organization that oppresses you??


Not all religions oppress women.


Which ones don't?
Christianity - yes
Jewdiasm - yes
Islam - yes
Hinduism - maybe not, but I may as well believe in Fairy tales.

First, it's spelled Judaism.

Second, there are different denominations/sects/interpretations of the big three (Christianity, Islam, Judaism) that have different views on gender roles, including denominations/sects/interpretations that promote female leadership/clergy, encourage women to participate actively and fully in religious life, and support/value women generally.

Third, there are lots of other religions that, as you pointed out yourself, you don't know much about. Be more specific in your criticism of religious oppression if you don't want to sound ignorant.


All the fundamental principles of those religions are sexist and meant to control the masses. If anyone has to get down in the weeds to split hairs with you then it is clear you cannot see the forest for the trees. You are the ignorant one.


You are completely wrong, but you will never learn enough to admit it.


Thanks for the judgment..

I was raised Christian. I know enough to know the Nicene Creed, the foundation of the Christian faith. Specifically the part where it states "For us men". Ignoring all the religious text, not just Christian, written in this way means you are pulling the wool over your own eyes. The fact that it has to be discussed what role a woman can/should play in the church. We never discuss the role of men....

Jesus shall sit on the right hand of the Lord to judge the quick and the dead. DCUM shall sit on the other hand and judge everyone all the time. You, Ms. I Have to Justify My Beliefs to Myself, shall never sit to meditate or contemplate your own beliefs, just everyone else's to tell then they're wrong.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2023 16:16     Subject: Re:Thank God I’m an Atheist
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hey that's a catchy song ... so thanks!

I think i'm more in the 'agnostic' camp b/c i figure there MIGHT be things beyond what we can perceive in the material world, i just haven't seen enough evidence to lay any bets in my own life ... esp since many gods seem to be jealous of each other ..

But I will confess: When someone I know has a loved one die, it sounds lame (to me) to say "You're in our thoughts," so I still say "you're in our prayers" even though I don't pray.


What's the difference between "in our thoughts" and "in our prayers"?

To me, prayers are just thoughts directed at some mystical being (who never responds, so not exactly helpful).



That's not how I think of prayer. The mystical being thing is offensive, btw. You are turning people's beliefs into a cartoon.


So it is an insult to say a god is mythical?

What do you say about all the gods you don't believe in?

(sorry I hate when people don't preview their post and then I just did it, hence the repost. Apologies)
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2023 16:14     Subject: Re:Thank God I’m an Atheist
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hey that's a catchy song ... so thanks!

I think i'm more in the 'agnostic' camp b/c i figure there MIGHT be things beyond what we can perceive in the material world, i just haven't seen enough evidence to lay any bets in my own life ... esp since many gods seem to be jealous of each other ..

But I will confess: When someone I know has a loved one die, it sounds lame (to me) to say "You're in our thoughts," so I still say "you're in our prayers" even though I don't pray.


What's the difference between "in our thoughts" and "in our prayers"?

To me, prayers are just thoughts directed at some mystical being (who never responds, so not exactly helpful).



So it is an insult to say a god is mythical?

What do you say about all the gods you don't believe in?

That's not how I think of prayer. The mystical being thing is offensive, btw. You are turning people's beliefs into a cartoon.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2023 15:57     Subject: Re:Thank God I’m an Atheist
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hey that's a catchy song ... so thanks!

I think i'm more in the 'agnostic' camp b/c i figure there MIGHT be things beyond what we can perceive in the material world, i just haven't seen enough evidence to lay any bets in my own life ... esp since many gods seem to be jealous of each other ..

But I will confess: When someone I know has a loved one die, it sounds lame (to me) to say "You're in our thoughts," so I still say "you're in our prayers" even though I don't pray.


What's the difference between "in our thoughts" and "in our prayers"?

To me, prayers are just thoughts directed at some mystical being (who never responds, so not exactly helpful).



That's not how I think of prayer. The mystical being thing is offensive, btw. You are turning people's beliefs into a cartoon.


"Mystical being" is exactly how many believers think of god.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2023 15:37     Subject: Re:Thank God I’m an Atheist
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hey that's a catchy song ... so thanks!

I think i'm more in the 'agnostic' camp b/c i figure there MIGHT be things beyond what we can perceive in the material world, i just haven't seen enough evidence to lay any bets in my own life ... esp since many gods seem to be jealous of each other ..

But I will confess: When someone I know has a loved one die, it sounds lame (to me) to say "You're in our thoughts," so I still say "you're in our prayers" even though I don't pray.


What's the difference between "in our thoughts" and "in our prayers"?

To me, prayers are just thoughts directed at some mystical being (who never responds, so not exactly helpful).



That's not how I think of prayer. The mystical being thing is offensive, btw. You are turning people's beliefs into a cartoon.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2023 15:36     Subject: Thank God I’m an Atheist
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to believe there’s a god who’s all powerful and yet allows so much horror and violence in the world.


I'm the opposite. I don't want an all-powerful being to control our free will. The more powerful beings get, the more they can be tempted to control your behaviors, thoughts, whatever. I'm grateful that the God I believe in gives us free will, even if it leads to horrible outcomes that we human beings sometimes do.


But what about the horrors of nature, like disease and pestilence ... not all the horrors come from free will.


Cycle of life. It's essential.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2023 15:34     Subject: Re:Thank God I’m an Atheist
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hey that's a catchy song ... so thanks!

I think i'm more in the 'agnostic' camp b/c i figure there MIGHT be things beyond what we can perceive in the material world, i just haven't seen enough evidence to lay any bets in my own life ... esp since many gods seem to be jealous of each other ..

But I will confess: When someone I know has a loved one die, it sounds lame (to me) to say "You're in our thoughts," so I still say "you're in our prayers" even though I don't pray.


"In our prayers" sounds super lame to me.


Why? What is your understanding of the word "prayers"?
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2023 15:32     Subject: Thank God I’m an Atheist
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree. Especially as a woman. How can you participate in an organization that oppresses you??


Not all religions oppress women.


Which ones don't?
Christianity - yes
Jewdiasm - yes
Islam - yes
Hinduism - maybe not, but I may as well believe in Fairy tales.

First, it's spelled Judaism.

Second, there are different denominations/sects/interpretations of the big three (Christianity, Islam, Judaism) that have different views on gender roles, including denominations/sects/interpretations that promote female leadership/clergy, encourage women to participate actively and fully in religious life, and support/value women generally.

Third, there are lots of other religions that, as you pointed out yourself, you don't know much about. Be more specific in your criticism of religious oppression if you don't want to sound ignorant.


All the fundamental principles of those religions are sexist and meant to control the masses. If anyone has to get down in the weeds to split hairs with you then it is clear you cannot see the forest for the trees. You are the ignorant one.


You are completely wrong, but you will never learn enough to admit it.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2023 15:24     Subject: Thank God I’m an Atheist
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree. Especially as a woman. How can you participate in an organization that oppresses you??


Not all religions oppress women.


Which ones don't?
Christianity - yes
Jewdiasm - yes
Islam - yes
Hinduism - maybe not, but I may as well believe in Fairy tales.

First, it's spelled Judaism.

Second, there are different denominations/sects/interpretations of the big three (Christianity, Islam, Judaism) that have different views on gender roles, including denominations/sects/interpretations that promote female leadership/clergy, encourage women to participate actively and fully in religious life, and support/value women generally.

Third, there are lots of other religions that, as you pointed out yourself, you don't know much about. Be more specific in your criticism of religious oppression if you don't want to sound ignorant.


All the fundamental principles of those religions are sexist and meant to control the masses. If anyone has to get down in the weeds to split hairs with you then it is clear you cannot see the forest for the trees. You are the ignorant one.