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Anonymous wrote:Hopkins

Highest rigor in every class all across the board, sports, all As entire 4 years, overseas program, job, awards, amazing Recs, impressive record etc. The type of kid who is naturally genius, disciplined, and yet still fully involved in community. Would do well anywhere truthfully. But didn’t come from a wealthy family and didn’t win a Nobel peace prize.

Didn’t get in and thankful went a diff route now. I think it’s important to know that rejections hurt but whatever the reason steers you in a diff direction, you’ll appreciate that pivot.

You describe so many many kids. Because it’s your kid you think what you described is rare. I have 2 high school kids with same stats and athletes as well.

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I’m the PP. I wasn’t saying he was rare, I was saying he ended up somewhere else that was a better fit! In my DS case he ended up at an IVY w/ a scholarship and was able to continue his sport that Hopkins didn’t offer. So it all works out!

What kind of scholarship?

Yeah, Ivies only offer need-based financial aid.

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Anonymous wrote:There are 75,000 plus kids each year with 1500 or higher SAT scores and ACT equivalents with 4.0+ GPAs.

How many available seats in the top 30 or 40 schools. Plus they have to take athletes, big donors kids, URM, etc.

So for those 75,000 kids it becomes a crap shoot.

Where are you getting 75,000? Link?

+1

If 1500 is 98th percentile, times 1.7 million test takers (in 2022, per google), then about 34,000 students have 1500+

https://satsuite.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/sat-percentile-ranks-gender-race-ethnicity.pdf

Anonymous wrote:There are 75,000 plus kids each year with 1500 or higher SAT scores and ACT equivalents with 4.0+ GPAs.

How many available seats in the top 30 or 40 schools. Plus they have to take athletes, big donors kids, URM, etc.

So for those 75,000 kids it becomes a crap shoot.

Where are you getting 75,000? Link?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hopkins

Highest rigor in every class all across the board, sports, all As entire 4 years, overseas program, job, awards, amazing Recs, impressive record etc. The type of kid who is naturally genius, disciplined, and yet still fully involved in community. Would do well anywhere truthfully. But didn’t come from a wealthy family and didn’t win a Nobel peace prize.

Didn’t get in and thankful went a diff route now. I think it’s important to know that rejections hurt but whatever the reason steers you in a diff direction, you’ll appreciate that pivot.

You describe so many many kids. Because it’s your kid you think what you described is rare. I have 2 high school kids with same stats and athletes as well.

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I’m the PP. I wasn’t saying he was rare, I was saying he ended up somewhere else that was a better fit! In my DS case he ended up at an IVY w/ a scholarship and was able to continue his sport that Hopkins didn’t offer. So it all works out!

What kind of scholarship?

The kind trolls make up.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hopkins

Highest rigor in every class all across the board, sports, all As entire 4 years, overseas program, job, awards, amazing Recs, impressive record etc. The type of kid who is naturally genius, disciplined, and yet still fully involved in community. Would do well anywhere truthfully. But didn’t come from a wealthy family and didn’t win a Nobel peace prize.

Didn’t get in and thankful went a diff route now. I think it’s important to know that rejections hurt but whatever the reason steers you in a diff direction, you’ll appreciate that pivot.

You describe so many many kids. Because it’s your kid you think what you described is rare. I have 2 high school kids with same stats and athletes as well.

.

I’m the PP. I wasn’t saying he was rare, I was saying he ended up somewhere else that was a better fit! In my DS case he ended up at an IVY w/ a scholarship and was able to continue his sport that Hopkins didn’t offer. So it all works out!

Yeah...saying they are at an Ivy with a scholarship makes you sound suspect. Meaning, a 3rd party group provided a scholarship? Ivy league schools give need-based aid to anyone that qualifies...but nobody refers to that as a scholarship.

Also, Ivy league schools are Division I...so, not sure how you "continue with the sport" as it is near impossible to just walk-on to a team. It seems awfully strange to apply to a school that doesn't offer the kid's sport...yet be a recruited athlete at an Ivy league school (or even strong enough to walk-on).

Kids can often continue with a sport at the club or rec level. For example, Harvard has div 1 fencing, but anyone is welcome to learn/train.

Loads of kids play intramural sports at Harvard.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hopkins

Highest rigor in every class all across the board, sports, all As entire 4 years, overseas program, job, awards, amazing Recs, impressive record etc. The type of kid who is naturally genius, disciplined, and yet still fully involved in community. Would do well anywhere truthfully. But didn’t come from a wealthy family and didn’t win a Nobel peace prize.

Didn’t get in and thankful went a diff route now. I think it’s important to know that rejections hurt but whatever the reason steers you in a diff direction, you’ll appreciate that pivot.

You describe so many many kids. Because it’s your kid you think what you described is rare. I have 2 high school kids with same stats and athletes as well.

.

I’m the PP. I wasn’t saying he was rare, I was saying he ended up somewhere else that was a better fit! In my DS case he ended up at an IVY w/ a scholarship and was able to continue his sport that Hopkins didn’t offer. So it all works out!

Yeah...saying they are at an Ivy with a scholarship makes you sound suspect. Meaning, a 3rd party group provided a scholarship? Ivy league schools give need-based aid to anyone that qualifies...but nobody refers to that as a scholarship.

Also, Ivy league schools are Division I...so, not sure how you "continue with the sport" as it is near impossible to just walk-on to a team. It seems awfully strange to apply to a school that doesn't offer the kid's sport...yet be a recruited athlete at an Ivy league school (or even strong enough to walk-on).

Kids can often continue with a sport at the club or rec level. For example, Harvard has div 1 fencing, but anyone is welcome to learn/train.

Anonymous wrote:Nope ! Everything worked as expected. Into UPenn!

You failed to follow directions. Smug jerk.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hopkins

Highest rigor in every class all across the board, sports, all As entire 4 years, overseas program, job, awards, amazing Recs, impressive record etc. The type of kid who is naturally genius, disciplined, and yet still fully involved in community. Would do well anywhere truthfully. But didn’t come from a wealthy family and didn’t win a Nobel peace prize.

Didn’t get in and thankful went a diff route now. I think it’s important to know that rejections hurt but whatever the reason steers you in a diff direction, you’ll appreciate that pivot.

You describe so many many kids. Because it’s your kid you think what you described is rare. I have 2 high school kids with same stats and athletes as well.

.

I’m the PP. I wasn’t saying he was rare, I was saying he ended up somewhere else that was a better fit! In my DS case he ended up at an IVY w/ a scholarship and was able to continue his sport that Hopkins didn’t offer. So it all works out!

Yeah...saying they are at an Ivy with a scholarship makes you sound suspect. Meaning, a 3rd party group provided a scholarship? Ivy league schools give need-based aid to anyone that qualifies...but nobody refers to that as a scholarship.

Also, Ivy league schools are Division I...so, not sure how you "continue with the sport" as it is near impossible to just walk-on to a team. It seems awfully strange to apply to a school that doesn't offer the kid's sport...yet be a recruited athlete at an Ivy league school (or even strong enough to walk-on).

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hopkins

Highest rigor in every class all across the board, sports, all As entire 4 years, overseas program, job, awards, amazing Recs, impressive record etc. The type of kid who is naturally genius, disciplined, and yet still fully involved in community. Would do well anywhere truthfully. But didn’t come from a wealthy family and didn’t win a Nobel peace prize.

Didn’t get in and thankful went a diff route now. I think it’s important to know that rejections hurt but whatever the reason steers you in a diff direction, you’ll appreciate that pivot.

You describe so many many kids. Because it’s your kid you think what you described is rare. I have 2 high school kids with same stats and athletes as well.

Honestly, I don’t understand why folks mention sports in the context of a great application unless they are a recruited athlete. At highly rejective schools I imagine sports are a net negative if you are not recruited because in theory you could have spent that time doing something more unique/impressive.

It sucks…but there are plenty of schools outside the Top 20 that don’t care as much about ECs.

Kids who play sports don’t have any time and have to be disciplined to get those kind of grades. That is why its mentioned because people who have athletes will understand that comment and know they were not just sitting in their bedroom everyday studying. Also, there are plenty of kids who excel at a sport and decide not to pursue it in college. Being on a team alone builds a lot of character and life lessons so it’s not just about the skill.

True—But that is just like so many other ECs. Other activities also require significant commitment, particularly if leadership is involved. My kid is on the robotics team and the time commitment is significant for him. It involves time after school and weekends, late evenings for weeks at a time and travel where he misses school. He has to makeup work on his own time. Playing sports is one way to gain those life experience, but it is not unique.

More importantly...I assume your kid is interested in a STEM field so robotics is directly related to building the skills and interests for those fields and provides some foundation for academic success. Unless your sports player intends to pursue sports marketing or become a coach, etc. (remember, not a recruited athlete)...then the sports don't illustrate any particular academic interest.

Also, consider the flip side of kids spending so much time as athletes in HS and then not recruited for college. What are they going to do to fill those hours at college? What have they done to show any other interests (academic or otherwise?)?

I agree with all the good reasons for kids to play sports...but just don't think it will mean much for selective admissions if they are not a recruited athlete.

Anonymous wrote:no one cares about T30 stats, least of all in DCUM region

T15 is the holy grail and relative cutoff.

Yeah, Cornell, Gtown, and UVA are great great schools - and this is not meant to disparage any schools not ranked in T15 - once again, the holy grail schools are the goal of the strivers - and my kid was one of them lol

Does Columbia still count?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hopkins

Highest rigor in every class all across the board, sports, all As entire 4 years, overseas program, job, awards, amazing Recs, impressive record etc. The type of kid who is naturally genius, disciplined, and yet still fully involved in community. Would do well anywhere truthfully. But didn’t come from a wealthy family and didn’t win a Nobel peace prize.

Didn’t get in and thankful went a diff route now. I think it’s important to know that rejections hurt but whatever the reason steers you in a diff direction, you’ll appreciate that pivot.

You describe so many many kids. Because it’s your kid you think what you described is rare. I have 2 high school kids with same stats and athletes as well.

Honestly, I don’t understand why folks mention sports in the context of a great application unless they are a recruited athlete. At highly rejective schools I imagine sports are a net negative if you are not recruited because in theory you could have spent that time doing something more unique/impressive.

It sucks…but there are plenty of schools outside the Top 20 that don’t care as much about ECs.

Kids who play sports don’t have any time and have to be disciplined to get those kind of grades. That is why its mentioned because people who have athletes will understand that comment and know they were not just sitting in their bedroom everyday studying. Also, there are plenty of kids who excel at a sport and decide not to pursue it in college. Being on a team alone builds a lot of character and life lessons so it’s not just about the skill.

True—But that is just like so many other ECs. Other activities also require significant commitment, particularly if leadership is involved. My kid is on the robotics team and the time commitment is significant for him. It involves time after school and weekends, late evenings for weeks at a time and travel where he misses school. He has to makeup work on his own time. Playing sports is one way to gain those life experience, but it is not unique.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hopkins

Highest rigor in every class all across the board, sports, all As entire 4 years, overseas program, job, awards, amazing Recs, impressive record etc. The type of kid who is naturally genius, disciplined, and yet still fully involved in community. Would do well anywhere truthfully. But didn’t come from a wealthy family and didn’t win a Nobel peace prize.

Didn’t get in and thankful went a diff route now. I think it’s important to know that rejections hurt but whatever the reason steers you in a diff direction, you’ll appreciate that pivot.

You describe so many many kids. Because it’s your kid you think what you described is rare. I have 2 high school kids with same stats and athletes as well.

Honestly, I don’t understand why folks mention sports in the context of a great application unless they are a recruited athlete. At highly rejective schools I imagine sports are a net negative if you are not recruited because in theory you could have spent that time doing something more unique/impressive.

It sucks…but there are plenty of schools outside the Top 20 that don’t care as much about ECs.

From my DCUM research, overseas trips seem to be a negative because they flag you as privileged. If they involved any type of service, they are especially bad on applications.

Nothing in my house ever “gets blown” lol

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hopkins

Highest rigor in every class all across the board, sports, all As entire 4 years, overseas program, job, awards, amazing Recs, impressive record etc. The type of kid who is naturally genius, disciplined, and yet still fully involved in community. Would do well anywhere truthfully. But didn’t come from a wealthy family and didn’t win a Nobel peace prize.

Didn’t get in and thankful went a diff route now. I think it’s important to know that rejections hurt but whatever the reason steers you in a diff direction, you’ll appreciate that pivot.

You describe so many many kids. Because it’s your kid you think what you described is rare. I have 2 high school kids with same stats and athletes as well.

.

I’m the PP. I wasn’t saying he was rare, I was saying he ended up somewhere else that was a better fit! In my DS case he ended up at an IVY w/ a scholarship and was able to continue his sport that Hopkins didn’t offer. So it all works out!

What kind of scholarship?

Anonymous wrote:Nope ! Everything worked as expected. Into UPenn!

Did you read the original post?