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Anonymous wrote:SAT middle 50% on current USN&WR
- Northeastern: 1410 - 1540
- Northwestern: 1430 - 1550

Not much difference in student pool quality - https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/freshmen-least-most-likely-return

Retention rate - 
- Northeastern: 98% 
- Northwestern: 98% 

Graduation rate - https://www.collegeraptor.com/college-rankings/details/GraduationRate6Year/
- Northeastern: 95%
- Northwestern: 91%

Not much difference.  So those high stat kids are satisfied and like to stay at both of the schools.

Median Salary/Outcome - https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/
- Northeastern: $89K
- Northwestern: 86K

Not much difference.
Both schools get similar good respect from the industries

These two schools really have very similar stats.
Go with fit.

Northeastern does have a location plus. Boston is a full-on college city.

I think Boston being a college city is overrated! Many cities have local colleges (including DC, Philly, NYC) and I don't get why everyone thinks going to college in Boston is better than any other city. If you are at BU, are you really hanging out with kids from Northeastern? And if so, so what? I just don't get the hype...

It’s not overrated at all. So many of you can only think of MIT and Harvard that you don’t see the other 45 or so colleges in Boston and Cambridge. I had a great time there in the late 80s. It’s a compact city with bridges over the Charles River separating the two cities. Anywhere you go you’ll see students and activities involving students. There’s a reason it’s called a college town.

Don't bother feeding the troll who has never been to Boston.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't care for either school but I do know that Northeastern is a great school in a great location (better than Northwestern location). Northeastern also has a great coop program. As for gaming the system, the only school that did so recently was Columbia.

This. The defining aspect of Northeastern is the coop program. I can't believe it took 3 pages for that to even be mentioned. You should go to Northeastern if you want to combine school and work by alternating periods of classes with periods of coop work. Northwestern is a more traditional university experience.

Most students at northwestern do meaningful summer internships. In engineering, over 30% do coops. Coop is not unique to NEU. And based on the rapid growth at NEU in the last 3-4 years, without the full infrastructure to support it, there are plenty of kids who want a coop, applied to 150+ and cannot find one. Which means they just take classes instead, and likely didn't search for a meaningful internship, so might only graduate with 1 coop, not 2 or 3. Coop is great, but it can be done for STEM at many many other schools.

Why would you think they "don't have the infrastructure to support it"? Northeastern has been buying up small universities all over the world, and has about ten campuses from London to Canada, to everywhere. You need to do your research before you try to talk out of your arse. In addition, Northeastern's Engineering programs are tops, including the Engineering Coops. I know several current Northeastern students that are singing the praises of their Engineering coops. You sound like you have never once set foot on campus, and you come here every week to claim more of the same nonsense. Get a life.

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They have very similar stats in almost all the major areas
I would choose Northeastern in Boston

BS---Northwestern is a T10 school, and has been T10-20 for 3decades

NEU is ranked ~#50 and was 200 20 years ago

Umm.. what matters is what it is now.

And Northwestern is ranked much higher now.

The only thing I’ve ever heard about Northwestern is that they have an excellent theatre program.

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Anonymous wrote:SAT middle 50% on current USN&WR
- Northeastern: 1410 - 1540
- Northwestern: 1430 - 1550

Not much difference in student pool quality - https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/freshmen-least-most-likely-return

Retention rate - 
- Northeastern: 98% 
- Northwestern: 98% 

Graduation rate - https://www.collegeraptor.com/college-rankings/details/GraduationRate6Year/
- Northeastern: 95%
- Northwestern: 91%

Not much difference.  So those high stat kids are satisfied and like to stay at both of the schools.

Median Salary/Outcome - https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/
- Northeastern: $89K
- Northwestern: 86K

Not much difference.
Both schools get similar good respect from the industries

These two schools really have very similar stats.
Go with fit.

Northeastern does have a location plus. Boston is a full-on college city.

I think Boston being a college city is overrated! Many cities have local colleges (including DC, Philly, NYC) and I don't get why everyone thinks going to college in Boston is better than any other city. If you are at BU, are you really hanging out with kids from Northeastern? And if so, so what? I just don't get the hype...

It’s not overrated at all. So many of you can only think of MIT and Harvard that you don’t see the other 45 or so colleges in Boston and Cambridge. I had a great time there in the late 80s. It’s a compact city with bridges over the Charles River separating the two cities. Anywhere you go you’ll see students and activities involving students. There’s a reason it’s called a college town.

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They have very similar stats in almost all the major areas
I would choose Northeastern in Boston

BS---Northwestern is a T10 school, and has been T10-20 for 3decades

NEU is ranked ~#50 and was 200 20 years ago

Umm.. what matters is what it is now.

And Northwestern is ranked much higher now.

Depends on your definition of 'much'
Assuming you are going by USN&WR, Northwestern is #10 and Northeastern is #44 out of 3000+ 4 year colleges/universities.
Doesn't seem much.

More importantly as shown above, major stats for these two schools are at the same level today.

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Anonymous wrote:
They have very similar stats in almost all the major areas
I would choose Northeastern in Boston

BS---Northwestern is a T10 school, and has been T10-20 for 3decades

NEU is ranked ~#50 and was 200 20 years ago

Umm.. what matters is what it is now.

And Northwestern is ranked much higher now.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't care for either school but I do know that Northeastern is a great school in a great location (better than Northwestern location). Northeastern also has a great coop program. As for gaming the system, the only school that did so recently was Columbia.

This. The defining aspect of Northeastern is the coop program. I can't believe it took 3 pages for that to even be mentioned. You should go to Northeastern if you want to combine school and work by alternating periods of classes with periods of coop work. Northwestern is a more traditional university experience.

Most students at northwestern do meaningful summer internships. In engineering, over 30% do coops. Coop is not unique to NEU. And based on the rapid growth at NEU in the last 3-4 years, without the full infrastructure to support it, there are plenty of kids who want a coop, applied to 150+ and cannot find one. Which means they just take classes instead, and likely didn't search for a meaningful internship, so might only graduate with 1 coop, not 2 or 3. Coop is great, but it can be done for STEM at many many other schools.

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Anonymous wrote:SAT middle 50% on current USN&WR
- Northeastern: 1410 - 1540
- Northwestern: 1430 - 1550

Not much difference in student pool quality - https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/freshmen-least-most-likely-return

Retention rate - 
- Northeastern: 98% 
- Northwestern: 98% 

Graduation rate - https://www.collegeraptor.com/college-rankings/details/GraduationRate6Year/
- Northeastern: 95%
- Northwestern: 91%

Not much difference.  So those high stat kids are satisfied and like to stay at both of the schools.

Median Salary/Outcome - https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/
- Northeastern: $89K
- Northwestern: 86K

Not much difference.
Both schools get similar good respect from the industries

These two schools really have very similar stats.
Go with fit.

I agree about going with fit.

The score ranges are unfortunately not comparable, as Northeastern did not report stats for a third of the enrolled class - NU.in and international- prior to test optional, for many years, going back to the old Boston magazine article about gaming the rankings (https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2014/08/26/how-northeastern-gamed-the-college-rankings/). I have no idea what they are doing with enrollment stats for the satellite campuses going forward, though it would not surprise me if those were reported separately to IPEDS, just because that seems to be what other universities do (not sure what the CDS rules are).

Many schools accept transfer students, 15-3% of their incoming students, and their stats are not included either.
Northeastern's internal transfer student stats are actually very high.

The article basically says there are schools cheating (i.e. Columbia, Berkeley, Emory, etc.), but Northeastern is playing by the rules.
Nonwestern was also accused of cheating in their law schools stats.
Oh Northwestern also has a satellite campus and it's trying to expand as well all over the world
https://www.northwestern.edu/global/

Northwestern has Doha campus as the only real "Satellite campus". However, they do not take kids applying to Evanston campus and say "go to doha for 1-3 years and then we might let you come to Evanston". It's a completely separate experience.

Anonymous wrote:We had a few sessions with a college counselor and she kept suggesting northeastern. Are they getting a kickback? I’m sure it’s a fine school but I’m a litttle suspicious in how quickly it has turned its reputation around. I’m worried it’s a little bit of a fad/bubble.

I have a degree from Northwestern. I hated Northwestern.

Northeastern just isn’t at the same level as Northwestern, but it’s a fine research university in a fun location, and it’s thrilled to get applications from well-rounded, high-stats kids who get shut out of the T20 lottery schools.

Maybe it’s now getting a better group of normal great high-stats kids than most of the T20 schools, because it has a saner selection process and offers some of the high-stats applicants at least enough merit aid to get the price down to the cost of going to a place like the University of Wisconsin out of state.

The typical class might not really be as great as a comparable Northwestern class. But the typical class will be very good, the typical student will be great, and it’s easy to find jobs and internships in the Boston area.

Another consideration is that Northeastern has been known for its CO-OP program and preparing students for careers in business. Some people used to look down on it for being so work-oriented.

But now the pendulum has swung, and people seem to want every school to be career-oriented. And Northwestern is a very hard-headed, career-oriented place itself. It’s not at all a place to go if you want to sit in a quad BSing about philosophy. So, on any given day, Northwestern might be more like Northeastern than people expect. But the difference is that normal high-stats kids can get into Northeastern without divine intervention.

Anonymous wrote:Northwestern U. versus Northeastern U. What elements are better about Northwestern and what elements are better at Northeastern? Which is better overall? Which will be higher ranked 10 years from now? pros and cons of each, please.

OP are you back off your meds? You are obsessed with Northeastern!

We get it, your kid was not accepted. Let it go.

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They have very similar stats in almost all the major areas
I would choose Northeastern in Boston

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Anonymous wrote:
They have very similar stats in almost all the major areas
I would choose Northeastern in Boston

BS---Northwestern is a T10 school, and has been T10-20 for 3decades

NEU is ranked ~#50 and was 200 20 years ago

Umm.. what matters is what it is now.

Yeah anybody can improve if you know how to play the game.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
They have very similar stats in almost all the major areas
I would choose Northeastern in Boston

BS---Northwestern is a T10 school, and has been T10-20 for 3decades

NEU is ranked ~#50 and was 200 20 years ago

Umm.. what matters is what it is now.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't care for either school but I do know that Northeastern is a great school in a great location (better than Northwestern location). Northeastern also has a great coop program. As for gaming the system, the only school that did so recently was Columbia.

This. The defining aspect of Northeastern is the coop program. I can't believe it took 3 pages for that to even be mentioned. You should go to Northeastern if you want to combine school and work by alternating periods of classes with periods of coop work. Northwestern is a more traditional university experience.

PP, I mentioned it (11:26)

But, the real reason it hasn't been discussed more thoroughly here is that the teenager OP doesn't care about actual differences between the schools; they just really, really want to go to school in Boston.

Anonymous wrote:I don't care for either school but I do know that Northeastern is a great school in a great location (better than Northwestern location). Northeastern also has a great coop program. As for gaming the system, the only school that did so recently was Columbia.

This. The defining aspect of Northeastern is the coop program. I can't believe it took 3 pages for that to even be mentioned. You should go to Northeastern if you want to combine school and work by alternating periods of classes with periods of coop work. Northwestern is a more traditional university experience.