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Anonymous wrote:Both Amherst and Bowdoin are great schools and neither are Ivy-reject schools as one poster stated (Ivies are very different from SLACs). Fit is most important but everything being equal, I would choose Amherst.

Amherst is more of an Ivy reject school than is Bowdoin judging by their respective overlap schools.

Dartmouth College is a Bowdoin overlap, but Dartmouth is more like a very large LAC than an Ivy League school.

Amherst overlaps include Yale, Brown, & Princeton. For those accepted to Amherst and at least one of Yale, Brown, or Princeton, Amherst does not do well according to Parchment.

Do you have any facts to back this up as it just sounds like made up crap? You do realize that SLACs are very different from Ivies so it is very unlikely they are "Ivy reject" schools.

You seem very young & inexperienced based on your posts. No need to be so impolite.

Yes, these overlap schools are "facts" provided by Amherst College and Bowdoin College to publications like Fiske Guide To Colleges.

Overlap schools by Fiske means that those schools share similar traits, NOT that students apply to those very schools. You need to do better.

You are wrong. These are schools with the most overlapping applications for admission.

Schools of similar caliber will always get applications from top students. However, you should know that top liberal arts colleges are very different from Ivy colleges and appeal to different types of students.

The yield rates are eye-opening. Until very recently, the yield rate for the top ranked LAC (Williams College) was a bit under 40%, while yield rates for all of the Ivy League schools are much higher.

In order to increase yield rates, top LACs have resorted to two rounds of binding ED admissions.

These schools don't lack applicants and I find applicants today are far more informed than they were in the past. The ones who pick liberal arts colleges are searching for that smaller college experience. For many, financial aid ends up being the deciding factor and they may find ivies a bit more generous.

That said, my kid attended Bowdoin and applied to Amherst also. She steadfastly would not apply to an ivy even though she had good chances (well as good as any other excellent student with a hook). She wanted a small, liberal arts college and applied and was accepted to many. She went on to an ivy for graduate school.

Thank you for your intelligent & polite response to my post. (I am not OP.)

Agree that admission rates are low which support your assertion that top LACs have many applicants relative to available spots in the upcoming class.

For Class of 2026: Among elite LACs, Bowdoin College reported the highest yield (59%) for a stand-alone LAC (Barnard College of Columbia University had a yield rate of about 66%). Pomona College was next at 55%.

Amherst yield was about 45%.

Williams College was over 44%.

Swarthmore was almost 43%.

Middlebury was almost 39%.

Yield rates do change due to "summer melt".

Yield rates for elite National Universities are much higher even though U Chicago is the only which utilizes two binding rounds of ED admissions.

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Anonymous wrote:Both Amherst and Bowdoin are great schools and neither are Ivy-reject schools as one poster stated (Ivies are very different from SLACs). Fit is most important but everything being equal, I would choose Amherst.

Amherst is more of an Ivy reject school than is Bowdoin judging by their respective overlap schools.

Dartmouth College is a Bowdoin overlap, but Dartmouth is more like a very large LAC than an Ivy League school.

Amherst overlaps include Yale, Brown, & Princeton. For those accepted to Amherst and at least one of Yale, Brown, or Princeton, Amherst does not do well according to Parchment.

Do you have any facts to back this up as it just sounds like made up crap? You do realize that SLACs are very different from Ivies so it is very unlikely they are "Ivy reject" schools.

You seem very young & inexperienced based on your posts. No need to be so impolite.

Yes, these overlap schools are "facts" provided by Amherst College and Bowdoin College to publications like Fiske Guide To Colleges.

Overlap schools by Fiske means that those schools share similar traits, NOT that students apply to those very schools. You need to do better.

You are wrong. These are schools with the most overlapping applications for admission.

Schools of similar caliber will always get applications from top students. However, you should know that top liberal arts colleges are very different from Ivy colleges and appeal to different types of students.

The yield rates are eye-opening. Until very recently, the yield rate for the top ranked LAC (Williams College) was a bit under 40%, while yield rates for all of the Ivy League schools are much higher.

In order to increase yield rates, top LACs have resorted to two rounds of binding ED admissions.

These schools don't lack applicants and I find applicants today are far more informed than they were in the past. The ones who pick liberal arts colleges are searching for that smaller college experience. For many, financial aid ends up being the deciding factor and they may find ivies a bit more generous.

That said, my kid attended Bowdoin and applied to Amherst also. She steadfastly would not apply to an ivy even though she had good chances (well as good as any other excellent student with a hook). She wanted a small, liberal arts college and applied and was accepted to many. She went on to an ivy for graduate school.

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Anonymous wrote:Both Amherst and Bowdoin are great schools and neither are Ivy-reject schools as one poster stated (Ivies are very different from SLACs). Fit is most important but everything being equal, I would choose Amherst.

Amherst is more of an Ivy reject school than is Bowdoin judging by their respective overlap schools.

Dartmouth College is a Bowdoin overlap, but Dartmouth is more like a very large LAC than an Ivy League school.

Amherst overlaps include Yale, Brown, & Princeton. For those accepted to Amherst and at least one of Yale, Brown, or Princeton, Amherst does not do well according to Parchment.

Do you have any facts to back this up as it just sounds like made up crap? You do realize that SLACs are very different from Ivies so it is very unlikely they are "Ivy reject" schools.

You seem very young & inexperienced based on your posts. No need to be so impolite.

Yes, these overlap schools are "facts" provided by Amherst College and Bowdoin College to publications like Fiske Guide To Colleges.

Oh thanks, I'm old enough to appreciate being called "very young." But you, you're still an idiot without any facts to back up your stupid assertions.

Shows that you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

You really sound idiotic. Do you just sound like that or are you really an idiot?

And you write & think like an LAC graduate.

And you reason like you never graduated HS.

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Anonymous wrote:Both Amherst and Bowdoin are great schools and neither are Ivy-reject schools as one poster stated (Ivies are very different from SLACs). Fit is most important but everything being equal, I would choose Amherst.

Amherst is more of an Ivy reject school than is Bowdoin judging by their respective overlap schools.

Dartmouth College is a Bowdoin overlap, but Dartmouth is more like a very large LAC than an Ivy League school.

Amherst overlaps include Yale, Brown, & Princeton. For those accepted to Amherst and at least one of Yale, Brown, or Princeton, Amherst does not do well according to Parchment.

Do you have any facts to back this up as it just sounds like made up crap? You do realize that SLACs are very different from Ivies so it is very unlikely they are "Ivy reject" schools.

You seem very young & inexperienced based on your posts. No need to be so impolite.

Yes, these overlap schools are "facts" provided by Amherst College and Bowdoin College to publications like Fiske Guide To Colleges.

Overlap schools by Fiske means that those schools share similar traits, NOT that students apply to those very schools. You need to do better.

You are wrong. These are schools with the most overlapping applications for admission.

Schools of similar caliber will always get applications from top students. However, you should know that top liberal arts colleges are very different from Ivy colleges and appeal to different types of students.

The yield rates are eye-opening. Until very recently, the yield rate for the top ranked LAC (Williams College) was a bit under 40%, while yield rates for all of the Ivy League schools are much higher.

In order to increase yield rates, top LACs have resorted to two rounds of binding ED admissions.

Many top universities have 2 rounds of ED. Amherst and Williams do not.

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Anonymous wrote:Both Amherst and Bowdoin are great schools and neither are Ivy-reject schools as one poster stated (Ivies are very different from SLACs). Fit is most important but everything being equal, I would choose Amherst.

Amherst is more of an Ivy reject school than is Bowdoin judging by their respective overlap schools.

Dartmouth College is a Bowdoin overlap, but Dartmouth is more like a very large LAC than an Ivy League school.

Amherst overlaps include Yale, Brown, & Princeton. For those accepted to Amherst and at least one of Yale, Brown, or Princeton, Amherst does not do well according to Parchment.

Do you have any facts to back this up as it just sounds like made up crap? You do realize that SLACs are very different from Ivies so it is very unlikely they are "Ivy reject" schools.

You seem very young & inexperienced based on your posts. No need to be so impolite.

Yes, these overlap schools are "facts" provided by Amherst College and Bowdoin College to publications like Fiske Guide To Colleges.

Oh thanks, I'm old enough to appreciate being called "very young." But you, you're still an idiot without any facts to back up your stupid assertions.

Shows that you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

You really sound idiotic. Do you just sound like that or are you really an idiot?

NP. You seriously need to stand down. It's hardly news that kids who apply to SLACs like Amherst may also very well apply to Ivies and then choose an Ivy over Amherst, if admitted. It doesn't mean Amherst isn't strong, but it doesn't have the same "wow" factor.

I wasn't the one comparing SLACs vs Ivies. You need to get your facts straight!

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Anonymous wrote:Both Amherst and Bowdoin are great schools and neither are Ivy-reject schools as one poster stated (Ivies are very different from SLACs). Fit is most important but everything being equal, I would choose Amherst.

Amherst is more of an Ivy reject school than is Bowdoin judging by their respective overlap schools.

Dartmouth College is a Bowdoin overlap, but Dartmouth is more like a very large LAC than an Ivy League school.

Amherst overlaps include Yale, Brown, & Princeton. For those accepted to Amherst and at least one of Yale, Brown, or Princeton, Amherst does not do well according to Parchment.

Do you have any facts to back this up as it just sounds like made up crap? You do realize that SLACs are very different from Ivies so it is very unlikely they are "Ivy reject" schools.

You seem very young & inexperienced based on your posts. No need to be so impolite.

Yes, these overlap schools are "facts" provided by Amherst College and Bowdoin College to publications like Fiske Guide To Colleges.

Overlap schools by Fiske means that those schools share similar traits, NOT that students apply to those very schools. You need to do better.

You are wrong. These are schools with the most overlapping applications for admission.

Schools of similar caliber will always get applications from top students. However, you should know that top liberal arts colleges are very different from Ivy colleges and appeal to different types of students.

The yield rates are eye-opening. Until very recently, the yield rate for the top ranked LAC (Williams College) was a bit under 40%, while yield rates for all of the Ivy League schools are much higher.

In order to increase yield rates, top LACs have resorted to two rounds of binding ED admissions.

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Anonymous wrote:Both Amherst and Bowdoin are great schools and neither are Ivy-reject schools as one poster stated (Ivies are very different from SLACs). Fit is most important but everything being equal, I would choose Amherst.

Amherst is more of an Ivy reject school than is Bowdoin judging by their respective overlap schools.

Dartmouth College is a Bowdoin overlap, but Dartmouth is more like a very large LAC than an Ivy League school.

Amherst overlaps include Yale, Brown, & Princeton. For those accepted to Amherst and at least one of Yale, Brown, or Princeton, Amherst does not do well according to Parchment.

Do you have any facts to back this up as it just sounds like made up crap? You do realize that SLACs are very different from Ivies so it is very unlikely they are "Ivy reject" schools.

You seem very young & inexperienced based on your posts. No need to be so impolite.

Yes, these overlap schools are "facts" provided by Amherst College and Bowdoin College to publications like Fiske Guide To Colleges.

Oh thanks, I'm old enough to appreciate being called "very young." But you, you're still an idiot without any facts to back up your stupid assertions.

Shows that you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

You really sound idiotic. Do you just sound like that or are you really an idiot?

NP. You seriously need to stand down. It's hardly news that kids who apply to SLACs like Amherst may also very well apply to Ivies and then choose an Ivy over Amherst, if admitted. It doesn't mean Amherst isn't strong, but it doesn't have the same "wow" factor.

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Anonymous wrote:Both Amherst and Bowdoin are great schools and neither are Ivy-reject schools as one poster stated (Ivies are very different from SLACs). Fit is most important but everything being equal, I would choose Amherst.

Amherst is more of an Ivy reject school than is Bowdoin judging by their respective overlap schools.

Dartmouth College is a Bowdoin overlap, but Dartmouth is more like a very large LAC than an Ivy League school.

Amherst overlaps include Yale, Brown, & Princeton. For those accepted to Amherst and at least one of Yale, Brown, or Princeton, Amherst does not do well according to Parchment.

Do you have any facts to back this up as it just sounds like made up crap? You do realize that SLACs are very different from Ivies so it is very unlikely they are "Ivy reject" schools.

You seem very young & inexperienced based on your posts. No need to be so impolite.

Yes, these overlap schools are "facts" provided by Amherst College and Bowdoin College to publications like Fiske Guide To Colleges.

Oh thanks, I'm old enough to appreciate being called "very young." But you, you're still an idiot without any facts to back up your stupid assertions.

Shows that you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

You really sound idiotic. Do you just sound like that or are you really an idiot?

And you write & think like an LAC graduate.

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Anonymous wrote:Both Amherst and Bowdoin are great schools and neither are Ivy-reject schools as one poster stated (Ivies are very different from SLACs). Fit is most important but everything being equal, I would choose Amherst.

Amherst is more of an Ivy reject school than is Bowdoin judging by their respective overlap schools.

Dartmouth College is a Bowdoin overlap, but Dartmouth is more like a very large LAC than an Ivy League school.

Amherst overlaps include Yale, Brown, & Princeton. For those accepted to Amherst and at least one of Yale, Brown, or Princeton, Amherst does not do well according to Parchment.

Do you have any facts to back this up as it just sounds like made up crap? You do realize that SLACs are very different from Ivies so it is very unlikely they are "Ivy reject" schools.

You seem very young & inexperienced based on your posts. No need to be so impolite.

Yes, these overlap schools are "facts" provided by Amherst College and Bowdoin College to publications like Fiske Guide To Colleges.

Overlap schools by Fiske means that those schools share similar traits, NOT that students apply to those very schools. You need to do better.

You are wrong. These are schools with the most overlapping applications for admission.

Schools of similar caliber will always get applications from top students. However, you should know that top liberal arts colleges are very different from Ivy colleges and appeal to different types of students.

You keep posting the same lines repeatedly without explaining why.

Why do you believe this ?

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Anonymous wrote:Both Amherst and Bowdoin are great schools and neither are Ivy-reject schools as one poster stated (Ivies are very different from SLACs). Fit is most important but everything being equal, I would choose Amherst.

Amherst is more of an Ivy reject school than is Bowdoin judging by their respective overlap schools.

Dartmouth College is a Bowdoin overlap, but Dartmouth is more like a very large LAC than an Ivy League school.

Amherst overlaps include Yale, Brown, & Princeton. For those accepted to Amherst and at least one of Yale, Brown, or Princeton, Amherst does not do well according to Parchment.

Do you have any facts to back this up as it just sounds like made up crap? You do realize that SLACs are very different from Ivies so it is very unlikely they are "Ivy reject" schools.

You seem very young & inexperienced based on your posts. No need to be so impolite.

Yes, these overlap schools are "facts" provided by Amherst College and Bowdoin College to publications like Fiske Guide To Colleges.

Overlap schools by Fiske means that those schools share similar traits, NOT that students apply to those very schools. You need to do better.

You are wrong. These are schools with the most overlapping applications for admission.

Schools of similar caliber will always get applications from top students. However, you should know that top liberal arts colleges are very different from Ivy colleges and appeal to different types of students.

I realize it may be too late, but my DS considered both of these schools. Bowdoin did have a more relaxed, calm vibe. Also, less of an athlete/non-athlete divide at Bowdoin from everything we learned. Both excellent schools. I would choose Bowdoin if that's what he prefers. I can definitely see why someone would make that choice. It's a really special place.

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Anonymous wrote:Both Amherst and Bowdoin are great schools and neither are Ivy-reject schools as one poster stated (Ivies are very different from SLACs). Fit is most important but everything being equal, I would choose Amherst.

Amherst is more of an Ivy reject school than is Bowdoin judging by their respective overlap schools.

Dartmouth College is a Bowdoin overlap, but Dartmouth is more like a very large LAC than an Ivy League school.

Amherst overlaps include Yale, Brown, & Princeton. For those accepted to Amherst and at least one of Yale, Brown, or Princeton, Amherst does not do well according to Parchment.

Do you have any facts to back this up as it just sounds like made up crap? You do realize that SLACs are very different from Ivies so it is very unlikely they are "Ivy reject" schools.

You seem very young & inexperienced based on your posts. No need to be so impolite.

Yes, these overlap schools are "facts" provided by Amherst College and Bowdoin College to publications like Fiske Guide To Colleges.

Oh thanks, I'm old enough to appreciate being called "very young." But you, you're still an idiot without any facts to back up your stupid assertions.

Shows that you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

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Anonymous wrote:Both Amherst and Bowdoin are great schools and neither are Ivy-reject schools as one poster stated (Ivies are very different from SLACs). Fit is most important but everything being equal, I would choose Amherst.

Amherst is more of an Ivy reject school than is Bowdoin judging by their respective overlap schools.

Dartmouth College is a Bowdoin overlap, but Dartmouth is more like a very large LAC than an Ivy League school.

Amherst overlaps include Yale, Brown, & Princeton. For those accepted to Amherst and at least one of Yale, Brown, or Princeton, Amherst does not do well according to Parchment.

Do you have any facts to back this up as it just sounds like made up crap? You do realize that SLACs are very different from Ivies so it is very unlikely they are "Ivy reject" schools.

You seem very young & inexperienced based on your posts. No need to be so impolite.

Yes, these overlap schools are "facts" provided by Amherst College and Bowdoin College to publications like Fiske Guide To Colleges.

Overlap schools by Fiske means that those schools share similar traits, NOT that students apply to those very schools. You need to do better.

You are wrong. These are schools with the most overlapping applications for admission.

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Anonymous wrote:Both Amherst and Bowdoin are great schools and neither are Ivy-reject schools as one poster stated (Ivies are very different from SLACs). Fit is most important but everything being equal, I would choose Amherst.

Amherst is more of an Ivy reject school than is Bowdoin judging by their respective overlap schools.

Dartmouth College is a Bowdoin overlap, but Dartmouth is more like a very large LAC than an Ivy League school.

Amherst overlaps include Yale, Brown, & Princeton. For those accepted to Amherst and at least one of Yale, Brown, or Princeton, Amherst does not do well according to Parchment.

My kid got into Amherst RD and Yale, Brown and Princeton a few weeks later. Chose Princeton.

Anonymous wrote:Bowdoin. What a great place to be!

Wonderful to read that you enjoy Bowdoin. Would be more helpful to know why you enjoy Bowdoin.