Anonymous
06/05/2023 03:40
Subject: Curious Case of Natalia Grace is insane!!
Anonymous wrote:Michael is the exact definition of an unreliable narrator. What a lunatic!!! This guy 100% sexually abused Natalie IMO. Total creep
I think your claim that the dad sexually abused her is outrageous. I do agree that he is immature and is nuts. Both parents are horrible people. I really feel sad for the son on the show. He has been through horrible trauma that has destroyed his life. I HATED the hot mike moment and feel like it was entirely inappropriate for them to show that. I hate the producers for adding that in.
The step father and mother were both abusive to Natalia. I also believe that Natalia was trying to hurt them but there should have been some type of placement for her that would have been safer. She should never have been placed in a home with children.
Anonymous
06/05/2023 00:03
Subject: Re:Curious Case of Natalia Grace is insane!!
What about her and the little boys? Entering the houses. That is really creepy.
Anonymous
06/04/2023 21:52
Subject: Curious Case of Natalia Grace is insane!!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm watching this now. I hate everyone in this show except the autistic son. He seems the only normal person in this whole mess.
I think he is the only true victim in this story.
Agreed.
Anonymous
06/04/2023 21:50
Subject: Curious Case of Natalia Grace is insane!!
Anonymous wrote:I'm watching this now. I hate everyone in this show except the autistic son. He seems the only normal person in this whole mess.
I think he is the only true victim in this story.
Anonymous
06/04/2023 20:53
Subject: Curious Case of Natalia Grace is insane!!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm watching this now. I hate everyone in this show except the autistic son. He seems the only normal person in this whole mess.
He sounds fascinating and is love a documentary about him.
Same! I would love to see more about him and what he's doing now. He literally was the only person on the show that I didn't hate.
Anonymous
06/04/2023 20:52
Subject: Curious Case of Natalia Grace is insane!!
Anonymous wrote:I'm watching this now. I hate everyone in this show except the autistic son. He seems the only normal person in this whole mess.
He sounds fascinating and is love a documentary about him.
Anonymous
06/04/2023 20:03
Subject: Curious Case of Natalia Grace is insane!!
Anonymous wrote:Almost all of the people in the documentary seem pretty messed up. I don't get the timeline of what happened after the couple in Lafayette took in Natalia. It seemed sketchy that they immediately took her food stamp card and had her sign over her social security to them.
How did Natalia end up with the next family?
She must get around $800 in Social Security Disability plus food stamps. So who is in charge of that money now?
It sounds like the new family - they claimed they tried to adopt her but it didn't work out but they within a few weeks took the money as her guardian.
Anonymous
06/04/2023 18:38
Subject: Curious Case of Natalia Grace is insane!!
Anonymous wrote:I just listened to her 911 call abt stalking a neighbor and having thoughts of hurting them. My thought (and I have reason to be familiar with this type of thing) is that it sounded like someone who was hoping to say the magic words to be admitted to the hospital. I’m sure she has all kinds of issues based on what she’s been through but it struck me as her trying to go someplace where adults would take care of her!
If she was actual 9 when she was living alone, I can see her doing this because she wanted to have someone take care of her.
Anonymous
06/04/2023 18:35
Subject: Curious Case of Natalia Grace is insane!!
I just listened to her 911 call abt stalking a neighbor and having thoughts of hurting them. My thought (and I have reason to be familiar with this type of thing) is that it sounded like someone who was hoping to say the magic words to be admitted to the hospital. I’m sure she has all kinds of issues based on what she’s been through but it struck me as her trying to go someplace where adults would take care of her!
Anonymous
06/04/2023 18:29
Subject: Curious Case of Natalia Grace is insane!!
Almost all of the people in the documentary seem pretty messed up. I don't get the timeline of what happened after the couple in Lafayette took in Natalia. It seemed sketchy that they immediately took her food stamp card and had her sign over her social security to them.
How did Natalia end up with the next family?
She must get around $800 in Social Security Disability plus food stamps. So who is in charge of that money now?
How did Natalia end up with the next family?
She must get around $800 in Social Security Disability plus food stamps. So who is in charge of that money now?
Anonymous
06/04/2023 17:59
Subject: Curious Case of Natalia Grace is insane!!
I'm watching this now. I hate everyone in this show except the autistic son. He seems the only normal person in this whole mess.
Anonymous
06/04/2023 13:45
Subject: Curious Case of Natalia Grace is insane!!
Another documentary is coming out from the same producers called Natalia Speaks. She’ll give her side of the story
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/natalia-grace-shares-her-side-135219275.html
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/natalia-grace-shares-her-side-135219275.html
Anonymous
06/04/2023 13:27
Subject: Curious Case of Natalia Grace is insane!!
The dad when he pounded the floor?
The dad when he faked crating at the end and then did a retake.
The dad when he said his wife sexually abused him by withholding sex which was why she’s the reason he has a slight porn problem.
The dad who finally gets away from the woman he calls evil, and she offers to have sex with him if he signs over custody of all three kids to her and he agrees.
I’m sure she’s just as disgusting as seen by her texts to others, offering to pimp her daughter out, etc but at least she’s smart enuf to not video the documentary.
The dad when he faked crating at the end and then did a retake.
The dad when he said his wife sexually abused him by withholding sex which was why she’s the reason he has a slight porn problem.
The dad who finally gets away from the woman he calls evil, and she offers to have sex with him if he signs over custody of all three kids to her and he agrees.
I’m sure she’s just as disgusting as seen by her texts to others, offering to pimp her daughter out, etc but at least she’s smart enuf to not video the documentary.
Anonymous
06/03/2023 23:14
Subject: Curious Case of Natalia Grace is insane!!
Anonymous wrote:It ended kind of abruptly. I still don’t understand the absolute absence of follow through of CPS. I feel like she could sue them.
This. I can’t believe the ending isn’t discussed more. Do we never hear the allegations from the man in the wheelchair at the very end? The one michale was about to listen to through the laptop? Did I miss it?
Anonymous
06/03/2023 17:50
Subject: Curious Case of Natalia Grace is insane!!
Anonymous wrote:I'm guessing Natalia was actually ~14yo when the Barnetts adopted her. Precocious puberty seems highly unlikely. She would have been around 17-18 when the Barnetts placed her in the apartment by herself.
I believe the agency in Ukraine lied and the first adoptive parents figured out Natalia's true age. Likely, she has attachment disorder and other mental/personality disorders as well. Combined with her severe dwarfism that causes her to be physically disabled, her mental disorders were probably too much for them to handle. Same with the Barnetts.
Natalia probably is manipulative and has violent thoughts. I believe it's highly likely she's a sociopath. Given her age when she was hospitalized and then living in the Lafayette apartment, it wouldn't surprise me if she was sexually active or exhibiting predatory behavior. Her disorders and behaviors most likely stem from in-utero and childhood trauma, and perhaps genetics.
I surmise the families who adopted her had cases of savior syndrome. At worst, one or both of the Barnetts are narcissists. Circumstances of the adoptions by the two families seem shady. The burden of dealing with a teen with extreme physical and mental disorders became too much for the families. I don't blame any of the adoptive parents for being unable to handle Natalia's issues. I know I couldn't handle it, which is why I would never seek out a child who came from Natalia's background. However, the Barnetts were negligent for placing Natalia in a non-therapeutic environment once they could no longer handle having her in their lives.
The story is very complex, and it's nearly impossible to glean the truth from any of the documentaries or articles about the case. I'm sure the Barnetts have lied repeatedly, and they appear manipulative and destructive, but I imagine there's also some truth in many of their stories and allegations. No doubt, my hypothesis is full of holes, but it's what I'm able to digest.
This makes the most sense but a therapeutic placement would have cost a fortune except if the government paid. I don't get why they didn't hand her over to child welfare.
Both families are shady. The second family took all her benefits and social security check pretty quickly.