Anonymous
Post 05/31/2023 00:54     Subject: Elizabeth Holmes Reporting to Federal Prison Today
Anonymous wrote:I've been thinking about this lately. I believe EH 100% deserves the sentence she received, but I still feel a great deal of compassion for her (or any woman) leaving for a long prison term with 2 small children.

I'm slowly learning how to not judge these criminals, which was very hard after spending the past few years being robbed, abused and scammed. Been working on giving it to God, even though the injuries done to me are irreversible.

I'll never have compassion for a woman like Elizabeth Holmes but I think I judge her less now than I would've 6 months ago.
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2023 00:44     Subject: Elizabeth Holmes Reporting to Federal Prison Today
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't think she'll really be in prison for the entire 11 years. I can't imagine her husband waiting for her.


The article I read said that federal law requires her to serve 85% of her term. So unless she wins an appeal or a new trial, she's going to be there quite a while.


She could also be pardoned (which my husband thinks I’m crazy for considering, even though I wouldn’t support it).
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2023 00:24     Subject: Elizabeth Holmes Reporting to Federal Prison Today
NPR’s reporting on her today was insane. They introduced the piece with something like “She aimed to revolutionize health care.” She did no such thing. The product was a fraud from the first day to the last. She aimed to bilk investors and purchasers. The end.
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2023 00:16     Subject: Elizabeth Holmes Reporting to Federal Prison Today
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I really don't understand prison for non violent crimes like fraud, etc. These people don't need to be out of society for the sake of public safety. They need to make restitution. There are so many mandatory public service type sentences that would benefit society and benefit the person, too. This does nothing but ruin her family's life, too. These children have no mother, now. Her parents are devastated. Yes, I believe she had kids because she wouldn't have ɓeen able to later, not to sway the sentence.
I don't need my tax dollars going to this. Let her and so many others non violent offenders do real time in society. Limit their travel, how much they can spend, where they can live, how they live, etc., like so many people on Section 8, SNAP benefits, Medicaid. Let them help in homeless shelters, etc., Make them pay restitution with timeoutside, not serve it in a cell which accomplishes nothing.

I wish I had a say in sentencing all those college pay off parents. I think there were better ideas for them, too. Some people need to see how others live.

I really do feel for this woman. She effed up big time, deserves a sentence, deserves to pay off investors, but what will this accomplish?


Criminal behavior deserves prison time as a punishment.


There are more ways to punish someone than prison. Prison is a waste of money especially when people can repay society with service, and, in this case, money.

The punishment has to be harsh enough that people don’t want to risk criminal conviction, otherwise charlatans like Holmes won’t think twice about pulling conns like this.

Besides, she didn’t get 11 years for committing one crime one time; she committed multiple crimes that each carry a prison sentence.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2023 23:34     Subject: Elizabeth Holmes Reporting to Federal Prison Today
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I really don't understand prison for non violent crimes like fraud, etc. These people don't need to be out of society for the sake of public safety. They need to make restitution. There are so many mandatory public service type sentences that would benefit society and benefit the person, too. This does nothing but ruin her family's life, too. These children have no mother, now. Her parents are devastated. Yes, I believe she had kids because she wouldn't have ɓeen able to later, not to sway the sentence.
I don't need my tax dollars going to this. Let her and so many others non violent offenders do real time in society. Limit their travel, how much they can spend, where they can live, how they live, etc., like so many people on Section 8, SNAP benefits, Medicaid. Let them help in homeless shelters, etc., Make them pay restitution with timeoutside, not serve it in a cell which accomplishes nothing.

I wish I had a say in sentencing all those college pay off parents. I think there were better ideas for them, too. Some people need to see how others live.

I really do feel for this woman. She effed up big time, deserves a sentence, deserves to pay off investors, but what will this accomplish?


Criminal behavior deserves prison time as a punishment.


There are more ways to punish someone than prison. Prison is a waste of money especially when people can repay society with service, and, in this case, money.


I disagree. It lets others know what can happen. She belongs in prison.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2023 23:10     Subject: Elizabeth Holmes Reporting to Federal Prison Today
She and Sunny owe $452M in restitution, how much of that do you think will be paid back?

She is a fraud and she double downed on it and the invalid test results changed lives.

Go to jail. Kids are a smoke screen.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2023 22:44     Subject: Elizabeth Holmes Reporting to Federal Prison Today
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I really don't understand prison for non violent crimes like fraud, etc. These people don't need to be out of society for the sake of public safety. They need to make restitution. There are so many mandatory public service type sentences that would benefit society and benefit the person, too. This does nothing but ruin her family's life, too. These children have no mother, now. Her parents are devastated. Yes, I believe she had kids because she wouldn't have ɓeen able to later, not to sway the sentence.
I don't need my tax dollars going to this. Let her and so many others non violent offenders do real time in society. Limit their travel, how much they can spend, where they can live, how they live, etc., like so many people on Section 8, SNAP benefits, Medicaid. Let them help in homeless shelters, etc., Make them pay restitution with timeoutside, not serve it in a cell which accomplishes nothing.

I wish I had a say in sentencing all those college pay off parents. I think there were better ideas for them, too. Some people need to see how others live.

I really do feel for this woman. She effed up big time, deserves a sentence, deserves to pay off investors, but what will this accomplish?


Criminal behavior deserves prison time as a punishment.


There are more ways to punish someone than prison. Prison is a waste of money especially when people can repay society with service, and, in this case, money.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2023 22:37     Subject: Elizabeth Holmes Reporting to Federal Prison Today
Anonymous wrote:I really don't understand prison for non violent crimes like fraud, etc. These people don't need to be out of society for the sake of public safety. They need to make restitution. There are so many mandatory public service type sentences that would benefit society and benefit the person, too. This does nothing but ruin her family's life, too. These children have no mother, now. Her parents are devastated. Yes, I believe she had kids because she wouldn't have ɓeen able to later, not to sway the sentence.
I don't need my tax dollars going to this. Let her and so many others non violent offenders do real time in society. Limit their travel, how much they can spend, where they can live, how they live, etc., like so many people on Section 8, SNAP benefits, Medicaid. Let them help in homeless shelters, etc., Make them pay restitution with timeoutside, not serve it in a cell which accomplishes nothing.

I wish I had a say in sentencing all those college pay off parents. I think there were better ideas for them, too. Some people need to see how others live.

I really do feel for this woman. She effed up big time, deserves a sentence, deserves to pay off investors, but what will this accomplish?


Criminal behavior deserves prison time as a punishment.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2023 21:54     Subject: Elizabeth Holmes Reporting to Federal Prison Today
Anonymous wrote:

Not her fault. She was using a new birth control developed by her company.


Anonymous
Post 05/30/2023 21:49     Subject: Elizabeth Holmes Reporting to Federal Prison Today
I really don't understand prison for non violent crimes like fraud, etc. These people don't need to be out of society for the sake of public safety. They need to make restitution. There are so many mandatory public service type sentences that would benefit society and benefit the person, too. This does nothing but ruin her family's life, too. These children have no mother, now. Her parents are devastated. Yes, I believe she had kids because she wouldn't have ɓeen able to later, not to sway the sentence.
I don't need my tax dollars going to this. Let her and so many others non violent offenders do real time in society. Limit their travel, how much they can spend, where they can live, how they live, etc., like so many people on Section 8, SNAP benefits, Medicaid. Let them help in homeless shelters, etc., Make them pay restitution with timeoutside, not serve it in a cell which accomplishes nothing.

I wish I had a say in sentencing all those college pay off parents. I think there were better ideas for them, too. Some people need to see how others live.

I really do feel for this woman. She effed up big time, deserves a sentence, deserves to pay off investors, but what will this accomplish?
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2023 21:48     Subject: Elizabeth Holmes Reporting to Federal Prison Today
She’s making 12 cents an hour! Awesome
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2023 21:47     Subject: Elizabeth Holmes Reporting to Federal Prison Today
The NYT should be so embarrassed about running that puff piece a couple weeks ago trying to create a new image for this con artist.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2023 21:45     Subject: Elizabeth Holmes Reporting to Federal Prison Today
Anonymous wrote:I didn't realize she got 11 years. That seems pretty long for a non-violent, white collar crime. Meanwhile in DC actual murders get less time.

She crimed against several government agencies;
FDA
CMS
SEC
FTC
She de-frauded investors
She endangered patients' lives.

She deserves the time. The children were a manipulation. That's it. She has no remorse nor do I think she'll miss the children.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2023 21:45     Subject: Elizabeth Holmes Reporting to Federal Prison Today
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I didn't realize she got 11 years. That seems pretty long for a non-violent, white collar crime. Meanwhile in DC actual murders get less time.


They want to make an example put of her because she's a woman who flew too close to the sun. See Martha Stewart.

The WeWork guy needs to be in prison. Along with a dozen other tech bros


Exactly. Why are the Neumanns still out and about? So GROSS.


Yup...it is so gross that the harpies on DCUM have so much schaudenfreude about a white woman going to jail.


You don't understand. They're saying her sentence seems harsh, whereas other tech CEOs (men) got away with no prison time AND golden parachute deals, which is unfair to women CEOs

Did those other (male) tech CEOs endanger people’s lives?
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2023 21:43     Subject: Elizabeth Holmes Reporting to Federal Prison Today
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you think she is just crying all day? I think i would kill myself; it would be too painful to be away from my kids, especially a baby, for that long.


I wouldn’t kill myself but even just imagining the idea of setting them down for the last time and walking into a prison makes me shudder. I cannot imagine it. It’s so horrifying.

And yes, I know she’s a monster and yes I know she had the kids knowing this would happen and yes I know about Ian Gibbons and I agree she’s horrible. And yes I know that lots of non-white, non-rich parents go through the EXACT SAME THING, every day, for reasons that are likely related to race/poverty injustices.

AND STILL, the thought of her leaving her kids horrifies and fascinates me because I cannot help but wonder how I would survive that myself.


Presumably you wouldn't have gotten pregant (twice) after you already knew you would likely go to prison. She is a con, to the bone.


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