Anonymous
Post 05/24/2023 10:55     Subject: AP "unused exam" fee dispute with high school
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Anonymous wrote:OP the original cost will have gone to the college board, the school does not profit from those fees. They will be expected to pay these $40 per no show and it's on you.

Just pay up and be done with it. The college board and the MCPS are not going to side with you on this. You should have been more on top of it.


Whoa. Wrong information. AP exams are a profit center for MCPS schools. They do make money off of them.

These fees have never been authorized by the Board of Education or the legislature and are not in any way tied to your child's graduation from high school.

The school is trying to extort money from you. Period.




Utter nonsense.


Peddled by "the parents coalition".


And the Maryland Attorney General, Maryland State Department of Education and Maryland legislature.


No, just "the parents coalition".


Sad that you have so little respect for your elected officials and Maryland law. But that is the way of the country now with Trump and DeSantis in charge.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2023 10:54     Subject: AP "unused exam" fee dispute with high school
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Former AP Coordinator here: I believe the $40 fee is the total amount the College Board is charging the school for the exam. They won’t get billed for the full exam, at least according to page 22 of the AP coordinator manual. You might want to call the CB to clarify and then let the school know. Get a case number from CB. It could be that the school just interprets that as $40 in addition to the full payment. I wouldn’t make a huge stink about it though—you don’t to hold up your child’s graduation over something like this!

As for the extra money the school is charging you ($12), that cost (at most schools) covers the cost of proctors. We had to hire subs to proctor or cover the classes of teachers who were proctoring. CB does not pay the school for that, and it can get quite pricey.


AP coordinator? Teaching extortion? MCPS makes millions off of illegal fees every year. How about if the police charge you $100 when you call 911 if your car is stolen. It’s extortion but you want your car back so don’t make a stink over it.


Please seek therapy.


If you were an educated person you'd know the definition of extortion and teach your child how to recognize it. You can also look up the definition of scam,
cheating
gouging
overcharging
highway robbery
fleecing
swindling
defrauding
skinning
chiselling
chiseling


extortion
noun
ex·​tor·​tion ik-ˈstȯr-shən
Synonyms of extortion
1
: the act or practice of extorting especially money or other property
especially : the offense committed by an official engaging in such practice
2
: something extorted
especially : a gross overcharge
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2023 10:45     Subject: AP "unused exam" fee dispute with high school
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Former AP Coordinator here: I believe the $40 fee is the total amount the College Board is charging the school for the exam. They won’t get billed for the full exam, at least according to page 22 of the AP coordinator manual. You might want to call the CB to clarify and then let the school know. Get a case number from CB. It could be that the school just interprets that as $40 in addition to the full payment. I wouldn’t make a huge stink about it though—you don’t to hold up your child’s graduation over something like this!

As for the extra money the school is charging you ($12), that cost (at most schools) covers the cost of proctors. We had to hire subs to proctor or cover the classes of teachers who were proctoring. CB does not pay the school for that, and it can get quite pricey.


AP coordinator? Teaching extortion? MCPS makes millions off of illegal fees every year. How about if the police charge you $100 when you call 911 if your car is stolen. It’s extortion but you want your car back so don’t make a stink over it.


Please seek therapy.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2023 09:24     Subject: AP "unused exam" fee dispute with high school
Anonymous wrote:I think you should pay the fee so that your child can graduate and not have to worry about it. But then continue looking into it and get a refund from the school after. The school is mistaken.


That’s how extortion works. Threaten the kid and force the parent to pay.
After graduation MCPS won’t talk to the parent.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2023 09:23     Subject: AP "unused exam" fee dispute with high school
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP the original cost will have gone to the college board, the school does not profit from those fees. They will be expected to pay these $40 per no show and it's on you.

Just pay up and be done with it. The college board and the MCPS are not going to side with you on this. You should have been more on top of it.


Whoa. Wrong information. AP exams are a profit center for MCPS schools. They do make money off of them.

These fees have never been authorized by the Board of Education or the legislature and are not in any way tied to your child's graduation from high school.

The school is trying to extort money from you. Period.




Utter nonsense.


Peddled by "the parents coalition".


And the Maryland Attorney General, Maryland State Department of Education and Maryland legislature.


No, just "the parents coalition".
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2023 09:11     Subject: AP "unused exam" fee dispute with high school
I think you should pay the fee so that your child can graduate and not have to worry about it. But then continue looking into it and get a refund from the school after. The school is mistaken.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2023 09:10     Subject: AP "unused exam" fee dispute with high school
Anonymous wrote:Former AP Coordinator here: I believe the $40 fee is the total amount the College Board is charging the school for the exam. They won’t get billed for the full exam, at least according to page 22 of the AP coordinator manual. You might want to call the CB to clarify and then let the school know. Get a case number from CB. It could be that the school just interprets that as $40 in addition to the full payment. I wouldn’t make a huge stink about it though—you don’t to hold up your child’s graduation over something like this!

As for the extra money the school is charging you ($12), that cost (at most schools) covers the cost of proctors. We had to hire subs to proctor or cover the classes of teachers who were proctoring. CB does not pay the school for that, and it can get quite pricey.


Another AP teacher (and parent of a child who did not take all of his exams last year) - I agree with the AP Coordinator; someone is just giving you wrong information. I received a refund from the school for the original fee minus the $40. (This was at RM.)
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2023 09:07     Subject: AP "unused exam" fee dispute with high school
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP the original cost will have gone to the college board, the school does not profit from those fees. They will be expected to pay these $40 per no show and it's on you.

Just pay up and be done with it. The college board and the MCPS are not going to side with you on this. You should have been more on top of it.


Whoa. Wrong information. AP exams are a profit center for MCPS schools. They do make money off of them.

These fees have never been authorized by the Board of Education or the legislature and are not in any way tied to your child's graduation from high school.

The school is trying to extort money from you. Period.




Utter nonsense.


Peddled by "the parents coalition".


And the Maryland Attorney General, Maryland State Department of Education and Maryland legislature.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2023 07:45     Subject: AP "unused exam" fee dispute with high school
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP the original cost will have gone to the college board, the school does not profit from those fees. They will be expected to pay these $40 per no show and it's on you.

Just pay up and be done with it. The college board and the MCPS are not going to side with you on this. You should have been more on top of it.


Whoa. Wrong information. AP exams are a profit center for MCPS schools. They do make money off of them.

These fees have never been authorized by the Board of Education or the legislature and are not in any way tied to your child's graduation from high school.

The school is trying to extort money from you. Period.




Utter nonsense.


Peddled by "the parents coalition".
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2023 07:37     Subject: AP "unused exam" fee dispute with high school
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP the original cost will have gone to the college board, the school does not profit from those fees. They will be expected to pay these $40 per no show and it's on you.

Just pay up and be done with it. The college board and the MCPS are not going to side with you on this. You should have been more on top of it.



Whoa. Wrong information. AP exams are a profit center for MCPS schools. They do make money off of them.

These fees have never been authorized by the Board of Education or the legislature and are not in any way tied to your child's graduation from high school.

The school is trying to extort money from you. Period.




Utter nonsense.


And Maryland law. There are no graduation fees and your child can not legally be prevented from graduating. Your child satisfied the legal graduation requirements.

Contact your state senator and delegates immediately.


I’d guess that whoever wrote that is at a private or in another state. MCPS will not prevent you from walking.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2023 07:28     Subject: Re:AP "unused exam" fee dispute with high school
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Anonymous wrote:Not knowing is on you. Pay it and be done with it. My kid's school requires that anyone taking an AP class takes the exam so no issues arise.

My kid is required to sit for the AP exam and I register and pay college board directly. I guess there’s less mass confusion that way.


My son’s school adds it to my bill at the beginning of the year.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2023 05:38     Subject: AP "unused exam" fee dispute with high school
Anonymous wrote:Former AP Coordinator here: I believe the $40 fee is the total amount the College Board is charging the school for the exam. They won’t get billed for the full exam, at least according to page 22 of the AP coordinator manual. You might want to call the CB to clarify and then let the school know. Get a case number from CB. It could be that the school just interprets that as $40 in addition to the full payment. I wouldn’t make a huge stink about it though—you don’t to hold up your child’s graduation over something like this!

As for the extra money the school is charging you ($12), that cost (at most schools) covers the cost of proctors. We had to hire subs to proctor or cover the classes of teachers who were proctoring. CB does not pay the school for that, and it can get quite pricey.


AP coordinator? Teaching extortion? MCPS makes millions off of illegal fees every year. How about if the police charge you $100 when you call 911 if your car is stolen. It’s extortion but you want your car back so don’t make a stink over it.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2023 05:26     Subject: AP "unused exam" fee dispute with high school
Former AP Coordinator here: I believe the $40 fee is the total amount the College Board is charging the school for the exam. They won’t get billed for the full exam, at least according to page 22 of the AP coordinator manual. You might want to call the CB to clarify and then let the school know. Get a case number from CB. It could be that the school just interprets that as $40 in addition to the full payment. I wouldn’t make a huge stink about it though—you don’t to hold up your child’s graduation over something like this!

As for the extra money the school is charging you ($12), that cost (at most schools) covers the cost of proctors. We had to hire subs to proctor or cover the classes of teachers who were proctoring. CB does not pay the school for that, and it can get quite pricey.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2023 05:15     Subject: AP "unused exam" fee dispute with high school
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP the original cost will have gone to the college board, the school does not profit from those fees. They will be expected to pay these $40 per no show and it's on you.

Just pay up and be done with it. The college board and the MCPS are not going to side with you on this. You should have been more on top of it.


Whoa. Wrong information. AP exams are a profit center for MCPS schools. They do make money off of them.

These fees have never been authorized by the Board of Education or the legislature and are not in any way tied to your child's graduation from high school.

The school is trying to extort money from you. Period.




Utter nonsense.


And Maryland law. There are no graduation fees and your child can not legally be prevented from graduating. Your child satisfied the legal graduation requirements.

Contact your state senator and delegates immediately.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2023 05:11     Subject: Re:AP "unused exam" fee dispute with high school
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
OP here. What do you understand from the College Board's own words? The bolded is key.



Unused/canceled exam fee

$40 per exam for:

Exams canceled in AP Registration and Ordering after November 15 and by March 15 (11:59 p.m. ET)
Exams that aren't taken and are indicated as unused in AP Registration and Ordering before the school's invoice is generated. (Invoices are generated after late testing ends.)
The original exam fee is removed from the invoice.


Did you cancel before March 15th?


OP here.

No. Our case falls under number 2 (formatting disappeared when I copied and pasted):
"Exams that aren't taken and are indicated as unused in AP Registration and Ordering before the school's invoice is generated."

This means that regardless of whether someone canceled or not, the College Board just goes ahead and takes $40 from the school if the student does not show up.

And since the school never refunded my $100, it sure as heck isn't getting an extra $40 from me, per exam.




I mean, it sure is if you want your kid to walk at graduation.


That is called extortion.