Anonymous
Post 05/30/2024 09:04     Subject: Why is Nysmith no longer "gifted"?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The one kid I know who went there from our public was far from gifted.




Sounds like you're just jealous because you couldn't afford to put your DC in private school.


NP. I’ve had kids in public as well as private (money wasn’t the reason) and one of my kids in public currently was accepted to three magnets. I have decades of experience teaching highly gifted kids. Our neighbor’s kid attended Nysmith and he didn’t appear to be gifted.



You clearly teach in a public school. What a rude comment to make about a child. Clearly money is the issue, and you can't contain your envy. Leave your neighbor's child alone.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2024 12:51     Subject: Re:Why is Nysmith no longer "gifted"?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Financially gifted



My kids went there. They are twice gifted, both IQ wise and financially. Does that make you feel better?

Does it make you feel better to be snippy to a comment that’s more than a year old?
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2024 12:24     Subject: Re:Why is Nysmith no longer "gifted"?
Anonymous wrote:Financially gifted



My kids went there. They are twice gifted, both IQ wise and financially. Does that make you feel better?
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2024 12:21     Subject: Why is Nysmith no longer "gifted"?
Anonymous wrote:The one kid I know who went there from our public was far from gifted.




Why are you on the private school forum? Envy?
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2024 17:01     Subject: Why is Nysmith no longer "gifted"?
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Anonymous
Post 06/25/2023 23:19     Subject: Why is Nysmith no longer "gifted"?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The one kid I know who went there from our public was far from gifted.




Sounds like you're just jealous because you couldn't afford to put your DC in private school.


NP. I’ve had kids in public as well as private (money wasn’t the reason) and one of my kids in public currently was accepted to three magnets. I have decades of experience teaching highly gifted kids. Our neighbor’s kid attended Nysmith and he didn’t appear to be gifted.




You are rude discussing your neighbor's child.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2023 18:15     Subject: Why is Nysmith no longer "gifted"?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is no way you can accept kids to a school at age 3, 4, 5, 6 and ensure they are ALL gifted at age 13.

They admit high SES kids and teach small classes at a high level. So the kids are smart.

Gifted is disingenuous.

I went there.





Well we know you weren't the top of the class.


There's a school in Seattle for "gifted kids" that will admit a child for PK3 and PK4, then make them take an IQ test for Kindergarten and reject them if it's not high enough. Our daughter (older elementary age) was above their stated IQ threshold but who the heck knows what our 3 year old's WISC score will be at 5 (not that it's stable at that age anyway). . . .It was a huge turnoff to think our son could be kicked out of the school at Kindergarten entry, even if our older child was there. We didn't end up applying and gave me a very bad impression of the school.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2023 17:39     Subject: Re:Why is Nysmith no longer "gifted"?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I taught there many years ago. At the time the school required a WISC or equivalent with a 130 FSIQ or above. There were two major problems with this. When the recession hit in the early 2000s, a lot of families of bright kids bailed for FCPS AAP. That was around the time AAP really started to expand and the program captured a lot of kids whose families were lukewarm about paying $30,000 in tuition for elementary school. They did get some families who applied because they wanted AAP for their kids and the kids were not selected but there weren't enough of those families to make up for the outflow. A 120 IQ is not going to get a kid into AAP without standout scores on other tests but it will get you into Nysmith. The second thing was referenced by a PP: Nysmith was not going to turn away tuition dollars from a family who had 4 kids and only one hit the 130 cutoff. It's a for-profit school and it's run like a business.





I had two children get an excellent education at Nysmith. They were accepted to every private high school they applied to. We are very pleased with the education they received.



PP. Good. The vast majority of the students who attended when I was there got an excellent education as well. The facility is world class and most of the teachers were great. Families had high expectations and wanted a low student: teacher ratio with lots of feedback and extras and we delivered. Most of the families who applied to private high schools got the results they wanted.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2023 15:23     Subject: Re:Why is Nysmith no longer "gifted"?
Anonymous wrote:I taught there many years ago. At the time the school required a WISC or equivalent with a 130 FSIQ or above. There were two major problems with this. When the recession hit in the early 2000s, a lot of families of bright kids bailed for FCPS AAP. That was around the time AAP really started to expand and the program captured a lot of kids whose families were lukewarm about paying $30,000 in tuition for elementary school. They did get some families who applied because they wanted AAP for their kids and the kids were not selected but there weren't enough of those families to make up for the outflow. A 120 IQ is not going to get a kid into AAP without standout scores on other tests but it will get you into Nysmith. The second thing was referenced by a PP: Nysmith was not going to turn away tuition dollars from a family who had 4 kids and only one hit the 130 cutoff. It's a for-profit school and it's run like a business.





I had two children get an excellent education at Nysmith. They were accepted to every private high school they applied to. We are very pleased with the education they received.

Anonymous
Post 06/23/2023 14:16     Subject: Re:Why is Nysmith no longer "gifted"?
I taught there many years ago. At the time the school required a WISC or equivalent with a 130 FSIQ or above. There were two major problems with this. When the recession hit in the early 2000s, a lot of families of bright kids bailed for FCPS AAP. That was around the time AAP really started to expand and the program captured a lot of kids whose families were lukewarm about paying $30,000 in tuition for elementary school. They did get some families who applied because they wanted AAP for their kids and the kids were not selected but there weren't enough of those families to make up for the outflow. A 120 IQ is not going to get a kid into AAP without standout scores on other tests but it will get you into Nysmith. The second thing was referenced by a PP: Nysmith was not going to turn away tuition dollars from a family who had 4 kids and only one hit the 130 cutoff. It's a for-profit school and it's run like a business.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2023 11:56     Subject: Why is Nysmith no longer "gifted"?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The one kid I know who went there from our public was far from gifted.




Sounds like you're just jealous because you couldn't afford to put your DC in private school.


DP here. The kid who we know who went to Nysmith also was not gifted. He didn’t even quality for FCPS AAP.

Many gifted kids don't get the GBRS scores to qualify. I'm not sure how you knew they weren't gifted
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2023 11:55     Subject: Re:Why is Nysmith no longer "gifted"?
Anonymous wrote:It is no longer a school for gifted students. You can get in pretty much if you interview well. It is extremely expensive and you’re basically just paying for a very low student teacher ratio. The school is riddled with issues, and they all stem from the top. LOTS of their best teachers left this year.

Where did they go?
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2023 11:26     Subject: Why is Nysmith no longer "gifted"?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The one kid I know who went there from our public was far from gifted.




Sounds like you're just jealous because you couldn't afford to put your DC in private school.


NP. I’ve had kids in public as well as private (money wasn’t the reason) and one of my kids in public currently was accepted to three magnets. I have decades of experience teaching highly gifted kids. Our neighbor’s kid attended Nysmith and he didn’t appear to be gifted.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2023 11:21     Subject: Why is Nysmith no longer "gifted"?
The kids I know of who went there were out of the box smart and on the spectrum.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2023 10:49     Subject: Why is Nysmith no longer "gifted"?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just want a well-established local private with a learning specialist or gt specialist who will regularly work to support the 145+ kids. Do any exist?


Not to my knowledge, but I wish one did! If anyone knows of one, please do let us know!




We spent a lot of time looking and found Nysmith to be the best option. They know how to educate out DC who has an IQ of 148.




Thank you for your answer. It's good to know that Nysmith is meeting and challenging your child.