Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Women just can't win and other women are the reason.

Unless a woman conforms to a standard that other women have set for her, she is going to be called gross and unattractive. this is supposed to be a child of maybe 15-16 in the commercial just figuring out who she is and trying to love herself. But DCUM harpies have to be hating on everything. I'm sure you'd all be up in arms if someone commented on how your daughter's shorts were too tight.

The thing about ads is this: they should resonate with the most people in a positive way.

I’ll never understand why marketing firms think showcasing something that isn’t likely to resonate with most women will yield positive results. Face it: you rarely see a woman with a mustache IRL. It’s not a good look.

There are other ways to convey nonconformity. A Mohawk. Purple hair. A granny in a moto jacket. A teen in coastal grandma gear.

Haven’t seen the ad, but the bolded is going to vary depending on where you live and what kind of crowd your kid runs with. I have a teenage daughter in a school for performing and visual arts, and there is a whole lot of body and facial hair going on in the born-female crowd. So much so that I hardly register it on young women anymore. There is definitely a conscious radical self-acceptance movement among a certain group of young women and they absolutely couldn’t care less who they offend.

I love that. Whether it's hair, body type, etc. It's about time women learned to love themselves.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But Olivia Wilde directed it!

The irony of someone who is extremely classically beautiful being like, be who you are don't change!
barf.

This is the only way to get anyone to listen to these “out there” ideas. No one’s going to listen to ugly people, sadly.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Women just can't win and other women are the reason.

Unless a woman conforms to a standard that other women have set for her, she is going to be called gross and unattractive. this is supposed to be a child of maybe 15-16 in the commercial just figuring out who she is and trying to love herself. But DCUM harpies have to be hating on everything. I'm sure you'd all be up in arms if someone commented on how your daughter's shorts were too tight.

The thing about ads is this: they should resonate with the most people in a positive way.

I’ll never understand why marketing firms think showcasing something that isn’t likely to resonate with most women will yield positive results. Face it: you rarely see a woman with a mustache IRL. It’s not a good look.

There are other ways to convey nonconformity. A Mohawk. Purple hair. A granny in a moto jacket. A teen in coastal grandma gear.

Haven’t seen the ad, but the bolded is going to vary depending on where you live and what kind of crowd your kid runs with. I have a teenage daughter in a school for performing and visual arts, and there is a whole lot of body and facial hair going on in the born-female crowd. So much so that I hardly register it on young women anymore. There is definitely a conscious radical self-acceptance movement among a certain group of young women and they absolutely couldn’t care less who they offend.

I love that. Whether it's hair, body type, etc. It's about time women learned to love themselves.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But Olivia Wilde directed it!

The irony of someone who is extremely classically beautiful being like, be who you are don't change!
barf.

Anonymous wrote:But Olivia Wilde directed it!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I HATE IT.




…, said many when women had the audacity to wear trousers in the 1920s.

“The main reason why parents refused to buy their daughters a pair of trousers or restricted their use was that trousers were perceived as indecent. One of the respondents described how she had asked her mother whether “we women” should not also wear trousers: “The answer was clear, they don’t belong to women, and why should we imitate men?” (SKS KRA Housut 88.2006, respondent born in 1929). Reactions to women’s trousers were mostly negative; they were seen as indecent, immoral, disgusting and too mannish for women.”

https://ee.openlibhums.org/article/id/1788/

This is not a good analogy, because anyone can choose (or not) to wear trousers. Meanwhile, few women can grow a mustache without hormone treatment. So it will always seem "mannish" to grow a mustache, and facial hair will always be associated with men.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I HATE IT.

…, said many when women had the audacity to wear trousers in the 1920s.

“The main reason why parents refused to buy their daughters a pair of trousers or restricted their use was that trousers were perceived as indecent. One of the respondents described how she had asked her mother whether “we women” should not also wear trousers: “The answer was clear, they don’t belong to women, and why should we imitate men?” (SKS KRA Housut 88.2006, respondent born in 1929). Reactions to women’s trousers were mostly negative; they were seen as indecent, immoral, disgusting and too mannish for women.”

https://ee.openlibhums.org/article/id/1788/

Gretchen, stop trying to make fetch happen.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I HATE IT.




…, said many when women had the audacity to wear trousers in the 1920s.

“The main reason why parents refused to buy their daughters a pair of trousers or restricted their use was that trousers were perceived as indecent. One of the respondents described how she had asked her mother whether “we women” should not also wear trousers: “The answer was clear, they don’t belong to women, and why should we imitate men?” (SKS KRA Housut 88.2006, respondent born in 1929). Reactions to women’s trousers were mostly negative; they were seen as indecent, immoral, disgusting and too mannish for women.”

https://ee.openlibhums.org/article/id/1788/

This is not a good analogy, because anyone can choose (or not) to wear trousers. Meanwhile, few women can grow a mustache without hormone treatment. So it will always seem "mannish" to grow a mustache, and facial hair will always be associated with men.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I HATE IT.

…, said many when women had the audacity to wear trousers in the 1920s.

“The main reason why parents refused to buy their daughters a pair of trousers or restricted their use was that trousers were perceived as indecent. One of the respondents described how she had asked her mother whether “we women” should not also wear trousers: “The answer was clear, they don’t belong to women, and why should we imitate men?” (SKS KRA Housut 88.2006, respondent born in 1929). Reactions to women’s trousers were mostly negative; they were seen as indecent, immoral, disgusting and too mannish for women.”

https://ee.openlibhums.org/article/id/1788/

Anonymous wrote:
I HATE IT.




…, said many when women had the audacity to wear trousers in the 1920s.

“The main reason why parents refused to buy their daughters a pair of trousers or restricted their use was that trousers were perceived as indecent. One of the respondents described how she had asked her mother whether “we women” should not also wear trousers: “The answer was clear, they don’t belong to women, and why should we imitate men?” (SKS KRA Housut 88.2006, respondent born in 1929). Reactions to women’s trousers were mostly negative; they were seen as indecent, immoral, disgusting and too mannish for women.”

https://ee.openlibhums.org/article/id/1788/

Anonymous wrote:As a woman who underwent electrolysis on my mustache years ago because I was self-conscious about it, I gotta say I like the ad. I don’t see it as having anything to do with being trans so much as a girl who decides not to conform to beauty standards. Fine with me!