Anonymous
04/19/2023 23:16
Subject: Why choose West Point?
A friend of mine went to a service academy and is now a general. It's a super achievement!
Anonymous
04/19/2023 20:52
Subject: Why choose West Point?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As you said, he is the smartest senior. He is smart for going there.
He is also brave. There will be a war during his generation, perhaps even before he graduates.
We will lose, and lots of young people will be killed, including many who went to USMA and USNA.
This. If you ever needed proof that DCUM was being trolled by paid propagandists then you have right here. Someone is going out of their way to discourage our brightest young men and women from serving in the military. And the very specific comment about submariners was super telling.
I made the comment about my friend who was assigned to the sub. I am the furthest thing from a paid left wing propagandist. I was relaying a conversation I had with the one service academy grad I know best. I was interested in the service academies for my own kids but they aren’t cut out for it and don’t have interest. I completely respect graduates of the service academies and buy into the idea that they make great potential leaders. My only beef is that they’ve gone too woke under the influence of Thoroughly Modern Milley.
So, you’re relaying a comment from the one service academy graduate you know, but you are also familiar with General Milley?
And you say you don’t have an agenda or an axe to grind? Hmm…
Am I not supposed to be familiar with the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff? I am absolutely not discouraging anyone from pursuing Army or Navy but the five year commitment is a big deal. Should not be minimized.
Anonymous
04/19/2023 20:21
Subject: Why choose West Point?
Anonymous wrote:Cadets are not required to join active military. Those that do go in with a high rank. Some go into reserves. Some choose to go into med school.
Their education is free and they are guaranteed employment with a minimum of $75k after graduation.
They have so much discipline that any company would hire them.
A former manager attended West Point, he was active military for a few years; entered the reserves, and has a Harvard MBA. He’s fit. Super smart and at 45 makes about $700k.
Cadets are absolutely required to join the military.
If they go to med school, it just defers their obligation. If the military pays for med school, it increases if. My husband will have served 18 years by the time his obligations are complete.
Anonymous
04/19/2023 20:05
Subject: Re:Why choose West Point?
Anonymous wrote:Our best and brightest should not be killers. Hard stop.
Ever heard of Socrates? Reputed to have been quite bright and a combat veteran as well - way back when soldiering was a lot more grisly than it is now.
Snark aside, our best and brightest are exactly the ones who should be serving
Anonymous
04/19/2023 19:52
Subject: Why choose West Point?
Anonymous wrote:Cadets are not required to join active military. Those that do go in with a high rank. Some go into reserves. Some choose to go into med school.
Their education is free and they are guaranteed employment with a minimum of $75k after graduation.
They have so much discipline that any company would hire them.
A former manager attended West Point, he was active military for a few years; entered the reserves, and has a Harvard MBA. He’s fit. Super smart and at 45 makes about $700k.
Yes, they do. They enlist after sophomore year and are officers when they graduate. Now they can go to law school or medical school afterward on Uncle Sam's dime, but it just prolongs the commitment.
Your former manager was "active in the miliary for a few years" because he was doing his post West Point commitment.
Anonymous
04/19/2023 19:40
Subject: Why choose West Point?
How does this thread keep getting started lol
Anonymous
04/19/2023 19:39
Subject: Why choose West Point?
West Point is a great school with a whole lot of famous alumni. , from Eisenhower to Buzz Aldrin. Plus a lot of people famous for military achievements, and a lot of astronauts. And it's also really beautiful there, and just a pretty good place overall to go to school.
Anonymous
04/19/2023 19:35
Subject: Why choose West Point?
Competition for billets aboard submarines is heavy. They don’t put the dumb ones there, and the dumb ones are objectively very good.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As you said, he is the smartest senior. He is smart for going there.
He is also brave. There will be a war during his generation, perhaps even before he graduates.
We will lose, and lots of young people will be killed, including many who went to USMA and USNA.
This. If you ever needed proof that DCUM was being trolled by paid propagandists then you have right here. Someone is going out of their way to discourage our brightest young men and women from serving in the military. And the very specific comment about submariners was super telling.
I made the comment about my friend who was assigned to the sub. I am the furthest thing from a paid left wing propagandist. I was relaying a conversation I had with the one service academy grad I know best. I was interested in the service academies for my own kids but they aren’t cut out for it and don’t have interest. I completely respect graduates of the service academies and buy into the idea that they make great potential leaders. My only beef is that they’ve gone too woke under the influence of Thoroughly Modern Milley.
Anonymous
04/19/2023 19:34
Subject: Re:Why choose West Point?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our best and brightest should not be killers. Hard stop.
“Hard stop?” What are you, 12?
Our best and brightest should be leaders and sometimes that means leading the fight against evil. Sorry that is news to you.
“Evil” is a matter of perpective. Full stop.
It’s actually not, but that’s ok. They’ll defend your freedom anyway
Anonymous
04/19/2023 19:30
Subject: Why choose West Point?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As you said, he is the smartest senior. He is smart for going there.
He is also brave. There will be a war during his generation, perhaps even before he graduates.
We will lose, and lots of young people will be killed, including many who went to USMA and USNA.
This. If you ever needed proof that DCUM was being trolled by paid propagandists then you have right here. Someone is going out of their way to discourage our brightest young men and women from serving in the military. And the very specific comment about submariners was super telling.
I made the comment about my friend who was assigned to the sub. I am the furthest thing from a paid left wing propagandist. I was relaying a conversation I had with the one service academy grad I know best. I was interested in the service academies for my own kids but they aren’t cut out for it and don’t have interest. I completely respect graduates of the service academies and buy into the idea that they make great potential leaders. My only beef is that they’ve gone too woke under the influence of Thoroughly Modern Milley.
So, you’re relaying a comment from the one service academy graduate you know, but you are also familiar with General Milley?
And you say you don’t have an agenda or an axe to grind? Hmm…
Anonymous
04/19/2023 19:19
Subject: Why choose West Point?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As you said, he is the smartest senior. He is smart for going there.
He is also brave. There will be a war during his generation, perhaps even before he graduates.
We will lose, and lots of young people will be killed, including many who went to USMA and USNA.
This. If you ever needed proof that DCUM was being trolled by paid propagandists then you have right here. Someone is going out of their way to discourage our brightest young men and women from serving in the military. And the very specific comment about submariners was super telling.
I made the comment about my friend who was assigned to the sub. I am the furthest thing from a paid left wing propagandist. I was relaying a conversation I had with the one service academy grad I know best. I was interested in the service academies for my own kids but they aren’t cut out for it and don’t have interest. I completely respect graduates of the service academies and buy into the idea that they make great potential leaders. My only beef is that they’ve gone too woke under the influence of Thoroughly Modern Milley.
Anonymous
04/19/2023 19:13
Subject: Why choose West Point?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most kids don’t want to give up 5 years of their lives post grad. It is a big sacrifice and a setback in career progression. I know one Navy guy who regrets it.
That is why very few go. It is a call to serve. The five years actually provide experiences and leadership opportunities extremely rare in the world today. "Setback in career progression"? Please. I would love to hear you elaborate.
West Point, and all the service academies, are amazing opportunities that should be celebrated.
Look, I have nothing but respect for those who attend our service academies but I’m just sharing what he shared with me. By the time he left the navy he was like 27 and essentially a recent college grad whereas his friends were making great headway into their careers. It is a sacrifice to spend five years on a submarine. I think he feels it was a net negative in terms of his career. He’s proud of his service but wasn’t really recommending the path. I’m sure there are others who leveraged the network and the respect more effectively
You are being silly. No one. And I mean no one graduates from USNA, spends 5 years on a submarine and comes out feeling like they are recent college grads. They are trained and way ahead of their peers career wise especially if they were on a sub.
As I said, this is something my friend expressed to me. I was a little surprised as I expected him to be rah rah about it. Not every Navy grad goes onto become CEO of this or that. I wouldn’t discourage a motivated kid from doing it but the five year commitment has some downside. No free lunch.
Anonymous
04/19/2023 19:05
Subject: Re:Why choose West Point?
By the time he left the navy he was like 27 and essentially a recent college grad whereas his friends were making great headway into their careers. It is a sacrifice to spend five years on a submarine. I think he feels it was a net negative in terms of his career.
You're not a recent college grad. You have five years of work experience. But that work experience simply is not relevant to anything in the real world.
You are being silly. No one. And I mean no one graduates from USNA, spends 5 years on a submarine and comes out feeling like they are recent college grads. They are trained and way ahead of their peers career wise especially if they were on a sub.
Trained to do what? Operate stuff on a ship or a sub? Yay. People not in the military will respect that experience, but that experience did not train them to do anything non-military.
Anonymous
04/19/2023 19:01
Subject: Why choose West Point?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Cadets are not required to join active military. Those that do go in with a high rank. Some go into reserves. Some choose to go into med school.
Their education is free and they are guaranteed employment with a minimum of $75k after graduation.
They have so much discipline that any company would hire them.
A former manager attended West Point, he was active military for a few years; entered the reserves, and has a Harvard MBA. He’s fit. Super smart and at 45 makes about $700k.
What? I'm almost completely sure that you do -- definitely at West Point. I think with the USMMA, there may be some non-military options if you serve in a related job.
The majority of the post-grad officer placement is in combat at WP. Other academies vary.
Anonymous
04/19/2023 18:57
Subject: Re:Why choose West Point?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our best and brightest should not be killers. Hard stop.
This is one of the dumbest things I've heard.
Explain yourself.