Anonymous
Post 04/30/2023 08:58     Subject: NNAT scores
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Sucks for kids at high performing schools.


Nah. IQ is still IQ, whatever your SES - what sucks for kids at high performing schools is that prep is the norm and a non-prepped score, even a 98th percentile non-prepped score, will be considered low compared to local peers, even for a gifted kid.

The preppers wrecked the system. This is the result. You break it, you buy it.


Really? I don't think it's fair that my above average kid would get into AAP in a diverse school, but not get in at an AAP Center, for example. It doesn't seem fair that if we move to a higher SES area, my older kid will remain in AAP while my younger kid probably won't get in, even with similar scores to what my older kid had.


This is totally not fair. We are at a center/high ses school and my inpool kid did not get in. 140nnat 135 cogat with a 140quant.


Your child is likely to have more kids with a similar profile in their regular class then a kid who is int he top 10% at a Title 1 school. Your child's needs can be met in the regular classroom while a similar kid at a Title 1 school will be ignored.



I'm not sure about that. Even at a high SES school, genEd will be made up of students scoring as low as 80. Setting aside the noise of the NNAT as measure of ability, a 135 kid would be closer in ability to the 140-160 kids in L4.

Anonymous
Post 04/29/2023 16:02     Subject: NNAT scores
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sucks for kids at high performing schools.


Nah. IQ is still IQ, whatever your SES - what sucks for kids at high performing schools is that prep is the norm and a non-prepped score, even a 98th percentile non-prepped score, will be considered low compared to local peers, even for a gifted kid.

The preppers wrecked the system. This is the result. You break it, you buy it.


Really? I don't think it's fair that my above average kid would get into AAP in a diverse school, but not get in at an AAP Center, for example. It doesn't seem fair that if we move to a higher SES area, my older kid will remain in AAP while my younger kid probably won't get in, even with similar scores to what my older kid had.


This is totally not fair. We are at a center/high ses school and my inpool kid did not get in. 140nnat 135 cogat with a 140quant.


Your child is likely to have more kids with a similar profile in their regular class then a kid who is int he top 10% at a Title 1 school. Your child's needs can be met in the regular classroom while a similar kid at a Title 1 school will be ignored.
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2023 15:51     Subject: Re:NNAT scores
How do the NNAT score/index numbers work?

130,131,132,133,....in 1 number increments

or

130, 132, 135, 139, 145, 150, 151...160 in random increments

Can any kid get 160/160? and what would the next best score be? 159 or 155...? how is this scaled score equate to raw score?

Is the scaling in 1 number increments or random increments? what is the minimal score that one can get?
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2023 10:12     Subject: Re:NNAT scores

My kid got 135 in Louise Archer (AAP Center), does this means she has no chance on getting in?
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2023 08:21     Subject: NNAT scores
Anonymous wrote:A quick question , where do you guys get the score? I checked my kids SIS , did not find the score


There’s a section called Test History. Click into it and toggle the Detail option to on. That worked for me.
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2023 08:11     Subject: NNAT scores
A quick question , where do you guys get the score? I checked my kids SIS , did not find the score
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2023 13:59     Subject: Re:NNAT scores
Another parent here surprised by child's score - the impression I got from her teachers is she's "fine." IReady in the 60-80's, mix of 3's and 4's on her report card. But she scored a 151. It makes me wonder if she's slipping through the cracks a bit since there are several kids in her class who need a lot of attention and she's a very easy going kid.
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2023 10:42     Subject: NNAT scores
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid scored 146. I’m sure it won’t really matter in the end though - she’s terrible at reading.



My child got 160 in NNAT and was bad in reading. Finally in second grade got a dyslexia diagnosis, her high IQ masked things a little. She would memorize words and could not sound them out. Get an OG tutor or do “All about Readings” homeschool program with her at home. I like the program tells you exactly what and how to teach and it is OG based.

I would keep in an open mind to see if it is something. FYI the school kept saying kids learn to read at different times and not to worry. We had to do a private evaluation.



Interesting. Maybe there is something like this going on with her. Thanks for the recommendation.
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2023 21:27     Subject: NNAT scores
Anonymous wrote:My kid scored 146. I’m sure it won’t really matter in the end though - she’s terrible at reading.



My child got 160 in NNAT and was bad in reading. Finally in second grade got a dyslexia diagnosis, her high IQ masked things a little. She would memorize words and could not sound them out. Get an OG tutor or do “All about Readings” homeschool program with her at home. I like the program tells you exactly what and how to teach and it is OG based.

I would keep in an open mind to see if it is something. FYI the school kept saying kids learn to read at different times and not to worry. We had to do a private evaluation.

Anonymous
Post 04/27/2023 20:54     Subject: NNAT scores
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sucks for kids at high performing schools.


Nah. IQ is still IQ, whatever your SES - what sucks for kids at high performing schools is that prep is the norm and a non-prepped score, even a 98th percentile non-prepped score, will be considered low compared to local peers, even for a gifted kid.

The preppers wrecked the system. This is the result. You break it, you buy it.


Really? I don't think it's fair that my above average kid would get into AAP in a diverse school, but not get in at an AAP Center, for example. It doesn't seem fair that if we move to a higher SES area, my older kid will remain in AAP while my younger kid probably won't get in, even with similar scores to what my older kid had.


This is totally not fair. We are at a center/high ses school and my inpool kid did not get in. 140nnat 135 cogat with a 140quant.


Of course it's not fair. It's meant to help people at lower SES schools where their scores are below a national cutoff score. Unfortunately, because of how they do AAP at higher SES schools, it has the effect of hurting those at higher SES schools.
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2023 18:46     Subject: NNAT scores
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sucks for kids at high performing schools.


Nah. IQ is still IQ, whatever your SES - what sucks for kids at high performing schools is that prep is the norm and a non-prepped score, even a 98th percentile non-prepped score, will be considered low compared to local peers, even for a gifted kid.

The preppers wrecked the system. This is the result. You break it, you buy it.


Really? I don't think it's fair that my above average kid would get into AAP in a diverse school, but not get in at an AAP Center, for example. It doesn't seem fair that if we move to a higher SES area, my older kid will remain in AAP while my younger kid probably won't get in, even with similar scores to what my older kid had.


This is totally not fair. We are at a center/high ses school and my inpool kid did not get in. 140nnat 135 cogat with a 140quant.
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2023 18:23     Subject: Re:NNAT scores
Thank you for heads up. I'm kind of shocked, my kid scored a 151. Their IReady scores have been really average, I didn't think they were AAP bound, but this makes me want to reconsider. Whatever this test even means.
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2023 15:57     Subject: NNAT scores
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is 125 a good score on the NNAT score?


Some context:
https://www.rcps.info/common/pages/DisplayFile.aspx?itemId=898909


So....is that a yes?


It's above average but not the kind of score that will help much with AAP. But if DC is standout in other ways, he/she could still get in, if that's what you want.
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2023 15:47     Subject: NNAT scores
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is 125 a good score on the NNAT score?


Some context:
https://www.rcps.info/common/pages/DisplayFile.aspx?itemId=898909


So....is that a yes?
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2023 15:46     Subject: NNAT scores
Anonymous wrote:My kid scored 146. I’m sure it won’t really matter in the end though - she’s terrible at reading.



My kid was principal placed into AAP and I took her out after 3rd grade because she couldn't keep up with the reading. That said, you have a first grader, so you have time to catch up. Get a tutor over the summer.