Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 16:30     Subject: Why do so many kids hate school these days/don't want to go?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Too much testing, shooter drills and knowing there is a potential for a mass casualty event at school every day (something we didn't have to deal with), teachers who are stressed for the same reasons students are and underpaid in addition, crowded schools.


We just had duck and cover drills for nukes.


But no nukes ever hit the US.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 14:33     Subject: Why do so many kids hate school these days/don't want to go?
This year DMV public schools have more than their share of burned out/checked out teachers. All kids notice, but SN kids are extra sensitive to it.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2023 14:21     Subject: Why do so many kids hate school these days/don't want to go?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To be honest, my parents were far more strict than the school ever was.
I think if a kid has the option of staying home and being on screens or doing something fun all day, yeah why would they want to go to school and have to do something that may be the least bit challenging.
It's the environment we've created for them. Never having them have to push through pain or uncomfortable situations or realize that's some things in life are just what you need to do.
I don't absolutely love going to work everyday, but I know that I have an obligation to do so as a productive member of this society. Would I rather lay around watching crappy reality TV and eating junk food? Yeah I would but I also understand the consequence of doing so is losing my job therefore losing my house, my car, my money etc etc.
A lot of parents are setting children up to not realize that we all have obligations we have to meet in this life. Or not. We love them or they are fun.


Yeah, but you have some say in your job. You got to pick the field you went into, the roles you pursued, the types of environments where you would be successful, etc.. We don't give kids any of those freedoms. It's a one size fits all, make it work scenario. Many adults couldn't manage that but are then critical of kids who can't.


Any kid on IEP does not have a one size fits all situation at school. You know that.
Anonymous
Post 05/02/2023 21:42     Subject: Why do so many kids hate school these days/don't want to go?
Anonymous wrote:School is such an anxiety and depression trigger for so many kids these days. Why????


"Love goes toward love as schoolboys from their books, But love from love, toward school with heavy looks.” -- William Shakespeare
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2023 20:23     Subject: Re:Why do so many kids hate school these days/don't want to go?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My observation is that my kid dislikes school because so much of it is about controlling the students and avoiding behaviors deemed inconvenient (not even bad behavior, just inconvenient behavior). She likes learning and usually enjoys the academic aspects of school. But she does not like going to school because she spends so much of the day being told she must be quiet, still, and perform repetitive and rote behaviors that are not alway related to learning. A lot of the rules, I can't even justify, like being told they must not talk during lunch (I get it's more convenient for teachers and enables a shorter lunch, but it's like a rule you'd have in a prison), having recess taken away as a punishment (hello, counterproductive, have you met children?), or issuing class wide rewards and punishment in an effort to control the behavior of a minority of kids who likely need a different approach entirely.

I can't wait to get my kid out of this school.


What a laundry list of complaints. Sounds like homeschooling is right for you.


I complete agree with her and what she says is 100 percent accurate for my kids' fcps es.


Mmkay. Sounds like homeschooling is right for both of you.
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2023 20:19     Subject: Why do so many kids hate school these days/don't want to go?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hmm. I have kids in 3rd and 6th grades and both they and their friends like school. I don’t know too many kids who dislike it, tbh.


So . . . you're on the SN forum -- do your kids have SN?

These kids you know who love school --do they have SN?

If not, take a seat.


Is your name Jeff? No? Then YOU take a seat.

DP
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2023 20:14     Subject: Re:Why do so many kids hate school these days/don't want to go?
There’s no such thing as a perfect job unless it’s a job you don’t need. And all adults were once children and managed, so no they can get through it. Schools do not have enough money and resources to have it tailor made for them and this country does poor public education in general.

Anyway I loved school as a young child, it was middle school and high school I hated because that is the time school actually becomes boring and irrelevant, especially with a boring teacher or a school district that doesn’t want creative teachers. I say this as a teacher myself.

There are too many expectations put on kids and yes they’ll make it through. But I do wish we did education differently.

Anonymous
Post 04/29/2023 19:20     Subject: Why do so many kids hate school these days/don't want to go?
Anonymous wrote:To be honest, my parents were far more strict than the school ever was.
I think if a kid has the option of staying home and being on screens or doing something fun all day, yeah why would they want to go to school and have to do something that may be the least bit challenging.
It's the environment we've created for them. Never having them have to push through pain or uncomfortable situations or realize that's some things in life are just what you need to do.
I don't absolutely love going to work everyday, but I know that I have an obligation to do so as a productive member of this society. Would I rather lay around watching crappy reality TV and eating junk food? Yeah I would but I also understand the consequence of doing so is losing my job therefore losing my house, my car, my money etc etc.
A lot of parents are setting children up to not realize that we all have obligations we have to meet in this life. Or not. We love them or they are fun.


Yeah, but you have some say in your job. You got to pick the field you went into, the roles you pursued, the types of environments where you would be successful, etc.. We don't give kids any of those freedoms. It's a one size fits all, make it work scenario. Many adults couldn't manage that but are then critical of kids who can't.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2023 12:22     Subject: Why do so many kids hate school these days/don't want to go?
Anonymous wrote:For my kids it was the combo of being sensitive to noise/crowding in a classroom with 25+ kids and a specific teacher. They both did a 180 after getting into a better environment with better teachers.


Me again.

For all the people whinging about parents enabling their children, my biggest regret is that I waited through the IEP process instead of pulling DS out sooner. He had his first suicide evaluation that year and he's never completely recovered. When my 3rd DC ended up with that teacher and started having problems we pushed hard early to get her out and she now absolutely LOVES school and spent all of spring break asking when she would get to go back.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2023 12:15     Subject: Why do so many kids hate school these days/don't want to go?
For my kids it was the combo of being sensitive to noise/crowding in a classroom with 25+ kids and a specific teacher. They both did a 180 after getting into a better environment with better teachers.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2023 12:43     Subject: Why do so many kids hate school these days/don't want to go?
Anonymous wrote:Hmm. I have kids in 3rd and 6th grades and both they and their friends like school. I don’t know too many kids who dislike it, tbh.


I know many who hate school and talk about it openly. One of my kids who is a good student told me it feels like a waste because the teacher spends her day dealing with behaviors. My other child said yeah kids disrupt teachers all day it's annoying and we never get to the things we need to.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2023 17:28     Subject: Re:Why do so many kids hate school these days/don't want to go?
Kids hate school today for the same reason kids have always hated school: It is frequently boring, not obviously relevant, and involved hard work and early mornings, and interferes in their ability to do nothing.

Only difference is that parents are now friends with their children, attuned to mental health issues, and listen to kids.

But people saying worksheets, lack of creative and shootings are why kids hate school? Yeah, no.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2023 15:01     Subject: Why do so many kids hate school these days/don't want to go?
To be honest, my parents were far more strict than the school ever was.
I think if a kid has the option of staying home and being on screens or doing something fun all day, yeah why would they want to go to school and have to do something that may be the least bit challenging.
It's the environment we've created for them. Never having them have to push through pain or uncomfortable situations or realize that's some things in life are just what you need to do.
I don't absolutely love going to work everyday, but I know that I have an obligation to do so as a productive member of this society. Would I rather lay around watching crappy reality TV and eating junk food? Yeah I would but I also understand the consequence of doing so is losing my job therefore losing my house, my car, my money etc etc.
A lot of parents are setting children up to not realize that we all have obligations we have to meet in this life. Or not. We love them or they are fun.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2023 14:58     Subject: Why do so many kids hate school these days/don't want to go?
I hated school but not going. Was never even an option that would have ever crossed my parent's minds.
Nowadays if a kid doesn't want to go, the parent just doesn't push it. So yeah they express more frequently they don't want to go.