Anonymous
04/16/2023 10:19
Subject: Minneapolis approved change in noise regulations to allow Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day
Anonymous wrote:I think the call to prayer is one of the loveliest sounds out t
here. It's not like it's a honking horn.
I have insomnia and many nights I'm just getting real sleep (REM) between 4:30 am and 6:30 am. No matter how lovely the sound, if something woke me up every day at 5:30 am it would be a negative impact on my health as I would not be able to fall back asleep.
What about separation of church and state?
Anonymous
04/16/2023 10:17
Subject: Re:Minneapolis approved change in noise regulations to allow Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have also lived in a Muslim country and it’s true that even some of the locals get annoyed by all the noise. But to be completely honest, you get used to it and stop noticing it after a while. Even at 5:30am. Kind of like living next to a train track, you eventually just tune out the noise.
I don’t think sleep studies bear that out. It might not register consciously but I guarantee it’s waking people up and it is harming their health. Bells, calls to prayer, etc- it’s all noise pollution and it’s all needless and it all harms. Night shift workers especially. How “progressive.”
I really do hope the Church of Satan comes in and sets it right. I can dig through my collection and recommend a few tracks if they need help.
Careful, your bigotry is showing.
DP. Right, anyone who believes in the constitutional protection of the wall between church and state is a ‘bigot” because they don’t endorse your theocratic desires.
I'm an atheist, sweetie. You are a bigot.
Anonymous
04/16/2023 10:09
Subject: Minneapolis approved change in noise regulations to allow Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is clearly unconstitutional.
Not allowing it was unconstitutional? Or allowing it now?
To be constitutional, wouldn't any kind of noise have to be allowed at those times? Time, place, and manner regulations are constitutional as long as they are content-neutral.
Anonymous
04/16/2023 10:07
Subject: Minneapolis approved change in noise regulations to allow Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day
Maybe use those times a day each day to take a minute and relax, listen to the noise and enjoy it. Church bells and the Muslim call to prayer are hardly a nuisance.
Anonymous
04/16/2023 09:58
Subject: Re:Minneapolis approved change in noise regulations to allow Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh, please, people get used to it. It's no different than living near train tracks (like I did growing up) and hearing train horns, except that the call to prayer is more pleasant. Or living in a city and hearing car horns or car alarms at any time of night.
No. Excessive noise is unhealthy.
And yet, people love living in NYC.
I lived on a busy street in NYC and was amazed at how well I slept -- and napped, in the middle of the day, with sirens blaring.
Anonymous
04/16/2023 09:54
Subject: Re:Minneapolis approved change in noise regulations to allow Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wait until I tell you about the pickle ball noise in my neighborhood.
OMG this so much
Give me the religious people instead. At least the call to prayer sounds nice. Much better than bop, bop, bop, bop...
Quietly going insane here
I'm starting to feel lucky -- just the occasional sound of the Cathedral bells (if the wind is blowing in the right direction), and an occasional fire truck on a nearby main thoroughfare.
Anonymous
04/16/2023 08:59
Subject: Re:Minneapolis approved change in noise regulations to allow Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day
Anonymous wrote:Wait until I tell you about the pickle ball noise in my neighborhood.
OMG this so much
Give me the religious people instead. At least the call to prayer sounds nice. Much better than bop, bop, bop, bop...
Quietly going insane here
Anonymous
04/16/2023 08:50
Subject: Re:Minneapolis approved change in noise regulations to allow Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day
Anonymous wrote:Wait until I tell you about the pickle ball noise in my neighborhood.
Anonymous
04/16/2023 08:48
Subject: Re:Minneapolis approved change in noise regulations to allow Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have also lived in a Muslim country and it’s true that even some of the locals get annoyed by all the noise. But to be completely honest, you get used to it and stop noticing it after a while. Even at 5:30am. Kind of like living next to a train track, you eventually just tune out the noise.
I don’t think sleep studies bear that out. It might not register consciously but I guarantee it’s waking people up and it is harming their health. Bells, calls to prayer, etc- it’s all noise pollution and it’s all needless and it all harms. Night shift workers especially. How “progressive.”
I really do hope the Church of Satan comes in and sets it right. I can dig through my collection and recommend a few tracks if they need help.
Careful, your bigotry is showing.
DP. Right, anyone who believes in the constitutional protection of the wall between church and state is a ‘bigot” because they don’t endorse your theocratic desires.
Anonymous
04/16/2023 08:41
Subject: Re:Minneapolis approved change in noise regulations to allow Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have also lived in a Muslim country and it’s true that even some of the locals get annoyed by all the noise. But to be completely honest, you get used to it and stop noticing it after a while. Even at 5:30am. Kind of like living next to a train track, you eventually just tune out the noise.
I don’t think sleep studies bear that out. It might not register consciously but I guarantee it’s waking people up and it is harming their health. Bells, calls to prayer, etc- it’s all noise pollution and it’s all needless and it all harms. Night shift workers especially. How “progressive.”
I really do hope the Church of Satan comes in and sets it right. I can dig through my collection and recommend a few tracks if they need help.
Careful, your bigotry is showing.
Anonymous
04/16/2023 08:35
Subject: Re:Minneapolis approved change in noise regulations to allow Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day
Anonymous wrote:I have also lived in a Muslim country and it’s true that even some of the locals get annoyed by all the noise. But to be completely honest, you get used to it and stop noticing it after a while. Even at 5:30am. Kind of like living next to a train track, you eventually just tune out the noise.
I don’t think sleep studies bear that out. It might not register consciously but I guarantee it’s waking people up and it is harming their health. Bells, calls to prayer, etc- it’s all noise pollution and it’s all needless and it all harms. Night shift workers especially. How “progressive.”
I really do hope the Church of Satan comes in and sets it right. I can dig through my collection and recommend a few tracks if they need help.
Anonymous
04/16/2023 08:32
Subject: Minneapolis approved change in noise regulations to allow Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day
Church bells ring constantly in the Midwest. How is this any different?
Anonymous
04/16/2023 08:24
Subject: Re:Minneapolis approved change in noise regulations to allow Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day
Anonymous wrote:It’s not annoying, it’s no different than a church bell that chimes the hour. If you’ve ever lived by a train, it’s like that. Your brain adjusts.
Frankly I’m pretty opposed to religious stuff and definitely to religious exemptions but Republicans have declared that religion should be a Get Out Of Laws Free Card and basically want us to be a theocracy so this is a natural consequence of that until they get to impose a single state religion I guess.
Church bells don’t start at 5:30. I have no issue with the call to prayer but don’t want anything before 7/8am, preferably 8
Anonymous
04/16/2023 08:23
Subject: Re:Minneapolis approved change in noise regulations to allow Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh, please, people get used to it. It's no different than living near train tracks (like I did growing up) and hearing train horns, except that the call to prayer is more pleasant. Or living in a city and hearing car horns or car alarms at any time of night.
No. Excessive noise is unhealthy.
And yet, people love living in NYC.
Not everywhere has to be NYC.
But everywhere has noise. I grew up on a busy street in the suburbs with lots of road noise, and then a less busy street closer to the commuter rail. And then a rural college town by the freight rail. And then a city with a bus stop right outside my window. That's my point. People like to live in all sorts of places despite the noise that comes with living there.
Anonymous
04/16/2023 08:21
Subject: Minneapolis approved change in noise regulations to allow Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day
Anonymous wrote:I think the call to prayer is one of the loveliest sounds out there. It's not like it's a honking horn.
I don't know about one of the loveliest, but it's certainly not an intrusive one. I live in NYC in a heavily muslim neighborhood, and that sound never bothered me, your brain quickly learns to tune it out.