Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ugh.
Here is the problem with MCPS.
The grading system, ParentVue, etc, doesn't work well enough for parents to be able to see if kids are turning in assignments on time.
In addition, most teachers just let kids skate and if they don't turn in assignments, oh well, that's on them! THey will just get a D.
So the kids are not held accountable.
And yes, ideally, kids are organized enough to stay on top of their work and be diligent and turn it all in on their own.
But they are kids!
Personally I think MCPS needs a better system that shows what is due and when and whether they have been turned in. Kids should get a couple days grace period and if it hasn't been turned in by the deadline, an email automatically goes out to parents and kid. Kid has two days to turn in assignment but has a few points taken off.
When I was in school,. you had to turn your assignments in in person. The teacher would say, turn your assignment in, she would count them, and if yours wasn't there, she would publically shame you by asking you why you had not turned your assignment in. Parents would be called.
Now teachers are just like, whatever. And the parents can't figure out because the system doesn't update well!
How tuned in are you to the current conversations in education?
Publicly shaming kids is not something that would go down well in the current climate.
Teachers have to give up because if they hold to hard and fast rules and standards, they get pummeled by entitled parents and kids who lobby and argue for extensions, passes and grace. This is not on the teachers.
It's on us as parents, because the system has gotten that way because we've allowed the loudest voices in the room to drive our education system. When a teacher gives our kids a bad grade, we're the first to cry about how unfair it is. When our kid fails to turn in an assignment, we're quick to ask how many times the teacher told or reminded our kid about the assignment before they failed.
As a matter of fact, we have complained so much that MCPS makes it harder for kids to even fail with the automatic 50% rule. So yeah, this is on us as parents in large part.
The other part of it is driven by misguided educators and administrators who have twisted and warped antiracism and equity principles into lax standards and decided to treat words like "discipline" and "accountability" as dirty and oppressive.
PUblically shame were the wrong words to use. But I see nothing wrong with a teacher saying, "Larlo, I am missing your assignment. Do you have it today?" And when Larlo says no, say, "WHy not and when are you going to turn it in?"
You did not address my comment about ParentVue not working well enough. Parents CANT see if their kids are behind because the tech doesn't work well enough. I have worked in education at both the high school and graduate school level, teaching and adminstering. There is no reason why parents shouldn't be able to see what assignments are due when and whether they have been turned in or not.
MCPS does not hold kids accountable to turning in their work AND it does not give parents the tools to over see whether their kids are turning things in. That is a problem that could be easily solved by the proposed system I lay out above.
I would say giving the student a D is holding her accountable.
College professors don’t call mom and dad when things aren’t turned in on time, or a kid doesn’t show up for class.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thanks. We have the free tutor and now are getting Varsity tutors too. She has not turned in a few assignments and is timid to ask teacher for rewrites /help (severe social anxiety—seeing a therapist). She is reaching out to teacher via email tonight. We have spoken with teacher via email about social anxiety issue related to class).
Will the exam Not affect her grade? I thought the same, fix the grade don’t worry about the exam but her counselor told me she was not sure if exam did not count toward grade?
Thanks for advice.
This is ridiculous. Of course she has a D if she hasn’t turned things in. Why are you just throwing up your hands and saying “social anxiety?” Help her get it together. Both of you go meet with the teacher and get a plan together to fix it. Don’t just stand around playing stupid while your daughter fails.
+1. Don't diagnose, instill self discipline.
Anonymous wrote:Thanks. We have the free tutor and now are getting Varsity tutors too. She has not turned in a few assignments and is timid to ask teacher for rewrites /help (severe social anxiety—seeing a therapist). She is reaching out to teacher via email tonight. We have spoken with teacher via email about social anxiety issue related to class).
Will the exam Not affect her grade? I thought the same, fix the grade don’t worry about the exam but her counselor told me she was not sure if exam did not count toward grade?
Thanks for advice.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thanks. We have the free tutor and now are getting Varsity tutors too. She has not turned in a few assignments and is timid to ask teacher for rewrites /help (severe social anxiety—seeing a therapist). She is reaching out to teacher via email tonight. We have spoken with teacher via email about social anxiety issue related to class).
Will the exam Not affect her grade? I thought the same, fix the grade don’t worry about the exam but her counselor told me she was not sure if exam did not count toward grade?
Thanks for advice.
This is ridiculous. Of course she has a D if she hasn’t turned things in. Why are you just throwing up your hands and saying “social anxiety?” Help her get it together. Both of you go meet with the teacher and get a plan together to fix it. Don’t just stand around playing stupid while your daughter fails.
+1. Don't diagnose, instill self discipline.
Maybe you can explain how the OP is supposed to "instill self-discipline" into a junior in high school who is not turning in assignments due to diagnosed severe social anxiety?
OP didn’t say the assignments weren’t turned in due to anxiety, but that the kid is having trouble approaching teacher for help due to anxiety. My anxious kid is also terrible about talking to teacher for help, and yes, we all recognize that it’s a huge problem and working on it, but he’s not there yet, at all.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thanks. We have the free tutor and now are getting Varsity tutors too. She has not turned in a few assignments and is timid to ask teacher for rewrites /help (severe social anxiety—seeing a therapist). She is reaching out to teacher via email tonight. We have spoken with teacher via email about social anxiety issue related to class).
Will the exam Not affect her grade? I thought the same, fix the grade don’t worry about the exam but her counselor told me she was not sure if exam did not count toward grade?
Thanks for advice.
This is ridiculous. Of course she has a D if she hasn’t turned things in. Why are you just throwing up your hands and saying “social anxiety?” Help her get it together. Both of you go meet with the teacher and get a plan together to fix it. Don’t just stand around playing stupid while your daughter fails.
+1. Don't diagnose, instill self discipline.
Maybe you can explain how the OP is supposed to "instill self-discipline" into a junior in high school who is not turning in assignments due to diagnosed severe social anxiety?
I’m guessing the assignment wasn’t completed. I think OP’s daughter is in over her head and is probably experiencing some paralysis because of her anxiety.
Without knowing OP’s home environment, my suggestion is to tighten up at home. Take phones away during homework and sleeping time. Sit with her while she does her homework, to make sure it’s getting done. At the beginning of the week, review projects and deadlines and come up with smaller deadlines for the bigger projects (outline by X, first draft by y, meet with the teacher and revise by Z, etc). Get her a project planner for this. Basically show her how to be disciplined, so she learns those skills. And not just for the next month. You should plan on doing this in the fall as well.
How old is your child, and what is your professional background in mental health issues?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:mAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thanks. We have the free tutor and now are getting Varsity tutors too. She has not turned in a few assignments and is timid to ask teacher for rewrites /help (severe social anxiety—seeing a therapist). She is reaching out to teacher via email tonight. We have spoken with teacher via email about social anxiety issue related to class).
Will the exam Not affect her grade? I thought the same, fix the grade don’t worry about the exam but her counselor told me she was not sure if exam did not count toward grade?
Thanks for advice.
This is ridiculous. Of course she has a D if she hasn’t turned things in. Why are you just throwing up your hands and saying “social anxiety?” Help her get it together. Both of you go meet with the teacher and get a plan together to fix it. Don’t just stand around playing stupid while your daughter fails.
+1. Don't diagnose, instill self discipline.
Maybe you can explain how the OP is supposed to "instill self-discipline" into a junior in high school who is not turning in assignments due to diagnosed severe social anxiety?
In fact post stated she was Not a mental health professional . However I do agree with tips on management etc. —OP
I’m guessing the assignment wasn’t completed. I think OP’s daughter is in over her head and is probably experiencing some paralysis because of her anxiety.
Without knowing OP’s home environment, my suggestion is to tighten up at home. Take phones away during homework and sleeping time. Sit with her while she does her homework, to make sure it’s getting done. At the beginning of the week, review projects and deadlines and come up with smaller deadlines for the bigger projects (outline by X, first draft by y, meet with the teacher and revise by Z, etc). Get her a project planner for this. Basically show her how to be disciplined, so she learns those skills. And not just for the next month. You should plan on doing this in the fall as well.
How old is your child, and what is your professional background in mental health issues?
20, 18, and 10. I have been through this with my 20 year old. I am not a mental health professional, and suggest OP seek treatment for that as well. I struggle with anxiety myself, and have felt the paralysis to get projects started/finished. But mental health issues don’t preclude learning good study/time management/project management skills. Especially for a kid who is college-bound.
In fact, OP's child is in therapy!
Mental health issues certainly can preclude learning good study/time management/project management skills, just like physical health issues can preclude learning skills like walking, riding a bike, or driving a car.
I notice that you ignored the post from the actual mental health professional above. No, anxiety does not preclude learning study and time management skills, in fact they are critical.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thanks. We have the free tutor and now are getting Varsity tutors too. She has not turned in a few assignments and is timid to ask teacher for rewrites /help (severe social anxiety—seeing a therapist). She is reaching out to teacher via email tonight. We have spoken with teacher via email about social anxiety issue related to class).
Will the exam Not affect her grade? I thought the same, fix the grade don’t worry about the exam but her counselor told me she was not sure if exam did not count toward grade?
Thanks for advice.
This is ridiculous. Of course she has a D if she hasn’t turned things in. Why are you just throwing up your hands and saying “social anxiety?” Help her get it together. Both of you go meet with the teacher and get a plan together to fix it. Don’t just stand around playing stupid while your daughter fails.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thanks. We have the free tutor and now are getting Varsity tutors too. She has not turned in a few assignments and is timid to ask teacher for rewrites /help (severe social anxiety—seeing a therapist). She is reaching out to teacher via email tonight. We have spoken with teacher via email about social anxiety issue related to class).
Will the exam Not affect her grade? I thought the same, fix the grade don’t worry about the exam but her counselor told me she was not sure if exam did not count toward grade?
Thanks for advice.
This is ridiculous. Of course she has a D if she hasn’t turned things in. Why are you just throwing up your hands and saying “social anxiety?” Help her get it together. Both of you go meet with the teacher and get a plan together to fix it. Don’t just stand around playing stupid while your daughter fails.
+1. Don't diagnose, instill self discipline.
Maybe you can explain how the OP is supposed to "instill self-discipline" into a junior in high school who is not turning in assignments due to diagnosed severe social anxiety?
I’m guessing the assignment wasn’t completed. I think OP’s daughter is in over her head and is probably experiencing some paralysis because of her anxiety.
Without knowing OP’s home environment, my suggestion is to tighten up at home. Take phones away during homework and sleeping time. Sit with her while she does her homework, to make sure it’s getting done. At the beginning of the week, review projects and deadlines and come up with smaller deadlines for the bigger projects (outline by X, first draft by y, meet with the teacher and revise by Z, etc). Get her a project planner for this. Basically show her how to be disciplined, so she learns those skills. And not just for the next month. You should plan on doing this in the fall as well.
How old is your child, and what is your professional background in mental health issues?
20, 18, and 10. I have been through this with my 20 year old. I am not a mental health professional, and suggest OP seek treatment for that as well. I struggle with anxiety myself, and have felt the paralysis to get projects started/finished. But mental health issues don’t preclude learning good study/time management/project management skills. Especially for a kid who is college-bound.
In fact, OP's child is in therapy!
Mental health issues certainly can preclude learning good study/time management/project management skills, just like physical health issues can preclude learning skills like walking, riding a bike, or driving a car.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thanks. We have the free tutor and now are getting Varsity tutors too. She has not turned in a few assignments and is timid to ask teacher for rewrites /help (severe social anxiety—seeing a therapist). She is reaching out to teacher via email tonight. We have spoken with teacher via email about social anxiety issue related to class).
Will the exam Not affect her grade? I thought the same, fix the grade don’t worry about the exam but her counselor told me she was not sure if exam did not count toward grade?
Thanks for advice.
This is ridiculous. Of course she has a D if she hasn’t turned things in. Why are you just throwing up your hands and saying “social anxiety?” Help her get it together. Both of you go meet with the teacher and get a plan together to fix it. Don’t just stand around playing stupid while your daughter fails.
+1. Don't diagnose, instill self discipline.
IKR! Just make her read it anyway! Who cares if she's blind!
You do realize that blind people also attend school and read books? Don’t be offensive to others in your rush to internet argue with a stranger,
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thanks. We have the free tutor and now are getting Varsity tutors too. She has not turned in a few assignments and is timid to ask teacher for rewrites /help (severe social anxiety—seeing a therapist). She is reaching out to teacher via email tonight. We have spoken with teacher via email about social anxiety issue related to class).
Will the exam Not affect her grade? I thought the same, fix the grade don’t worry about the exam but her counselor told me she was not sure if exam did not count toward grade?
Thanks for advice.
This is ridiculous. Of course she has a D if she hasn’t turned things in. Why are you just throwing up your hands and saying “social anxiety?” Help her get it together. Both of you go meet with the teacher and get a plan together to fix it. Don’t just stand around playing stupid while your daughter fails.
+1. Don't diagnose, instill self discipline.
Maybe you can explain how the OP is supposed to "instill self-discipline" into a junior in high school who is not turning in assignments due to diagnosed severe social anxiety?
I’m guessing the assignment wasn’t completed. I think OP’s daughter is in over her head and is probably experiencing some paralysis because of her anxiety.
Without knowing OP’s home environment, my suggestion is to tighten up at home. Take phones away during homework and sleeping time. Sit with her while she does her homework, to make sure it’s getting done. At the beginning of the week, review projects and deadlines and come up with smaller deadlines for the bigger projects (outline by X, first draft by y, meet with the teacher and revise by Z, etc). Get her a project planner for this. Basically show her how to be disciplined, so she learns those skills. And not just for the next month. You should plan on doing this in the fall as well.
How old is your child, and what is your professional background in mental health issues?
20, 18, and 10. I have been through this with my 20 year old. I am not a mental health professional, and suggest OP seek treatment for that as well. I struggle with anxiety myself, and have felt the paralysis to get projects started/finished. But mental health issues don’t preclude learning good study/time management/project management skills. Especially for a kid who is college-bound.
In fact, OP's child is in therapy!
Mental health issues certainly can preclude learning good study/time management/project management skills, just like physical health issues can preclude learning skills like walking, riding a bike, or driving a car.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thanks. We have the free tutor and now are getting Varsity tutors too. She has not turned in a few assignments and is timid to ask teacher for rewrites /help (severe social anxiety—seeing a therapist). She is reaching out to teacher via email tonight. We have spoken with teacher via email about social anxiety issue related to class).
Will the exam Not affect her grade? I thought the same, fix the grade don’t worry about the exam but her counselor told me she was not sure if exam did not count toward grade?
Thanks for advice.
This is ridiculous. Of course she has a D if she hasn’t turned things in. Why are you just throwing up your hands and saying “social anxiety?” Help her get it together. Both of you go meet with the teacher and get a plan together to fix it. Don’t just stand around playing stupid while your daughter fails.
+1. Don't diagnose, instill self discipline.
Maybe you can explain how the OP is supposed to "instill self-discipline" into a junior in high school who is not turning in assignments due to diagnosed severe social anxiety?
I’m guessing the assignment wasn’t completed. I think OP’s daughter is in over her head and is probably experiencing some paralysis because of her anxiety.
Without knowing OP’s home environment, my suggestion is to tighten up at home. Take phones away during homework and sleeping time. Sit with her while she does her homework, to make sure it’s getting done. At the beginning of the week, review projects and deadlines and come up with smaller deadlines for the bigger projects (outline by X, first draft by y, meet with the teacher and revise by Z, etc). Get her a project planner for this. Basically show her how to be disciplined, so she learns those skills. And not just for the next month. You should plan on doing this in the fall as well.
How old is your child, and what is your professional background in mental health issues?
20, 18, and 10. I have been through this with my 20 year old. I am not a mental health professional, and suggest OP seek treatment for that as well. I struggle with anxiety myself, and have felt the paralysis to get projects started/finished. But mental health issues don’t preclude learning good study/time management/project management skills. Especially for a kid who is college-bound.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thanks. We have the free tutor and now are getting Varsity tutors too. She has not turned in a few assignments and is timid to ask teacher for rewrites /help (severe social anxiety—seeing a therapist). She is reaching out to teacher via email tonight. We have spoken with teacher via email about social anxiety issue related to class).
Will the exam Not affect her grade? I thought the same, fix the grade don’t worry about the exam but her counselor told me she was not sure if exam did not count toward grade?
Thanks for advice.
This is ridiculous. Of course she has a D if she hasn’t turned things in. Why are you just throwing up your hands and saying “social anxiety?” Help her get it together. Both of you go meet with the teacher and get a plan together to fix it. Don’t just stand around playing stupid while your daughter fails.
+1. Don't diagnose, instill self discipline.
Maybe you can explain how the OP is supposed to "instill self-discipline" into a junior in high school who is not turning in assignments due to diagnosed severe social anxiety?
I’m guessing the assignment wasn’t completed. I think OP’s daughter is in over her head and is probably experiencing some paralysis because of her anxiety.
Without knowing OP’s home environment, my suggestion is to tighten up at home. Take phones away during homework and sleeping time. Sit with her while she does her homework, to make sure it’s getting done. At the beginning of the week, review projects and deadlines and come up with smaller deadlines for the bigger projects (outline by X, first draft by y, meet with the teacher and revise by Z, etc). Get her a project planner for this. Basically show her how to be disciplined, so she learns those skills. And not just for the next month. You should plan on doing this in the fall as well.
How old is your child, and what is your professional background in mental health issues?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thanks. We have the free tutor and now are getting Varsity tutors too. She has not turned in a few assignments and is timid to ask teacher for rewrites /help (severe social anxiety—seeing a therapist). She is reaching out to teacher via email tonight. We have spoken with teacher via email about social anxiety issue related to class).
Will the exam Not affect her grade? I thought the same, fix the grade don’t worry about the exam but her counselor told me she was not sure if exam did not count toward grade?
Thanks for advice.
This is ridiculous. Of course she has a D if she hasn’t turned things in. Why are you just throwing up your hands and saying “social anxiety?” Help her get it together. Both of you go meet with the teacher and get a plan together to fix it. Don’t just stand around playing stupid while your daughter fails.
+1. Don't diagnose, instill self discipline.
Maybe you can explain how the OP is supposed to "instill self-discipline" into a junior in high school who is not turning in assignments due to diagnosed severe social anxiety?
I’m guessing the assignment wasn’t completed. I think OP’s daughter is in over her head and is probably experiencing some paralysis because of her anxiety.
Without knowing OP’s home environment, my suggestion is to tighten up at home. Take phones away during homework and sleeping time. Sit with her while she does her homework, to make sure it’s getting done. At the beginning of the week, review projects and deadlines and come up with smaller deadlines for the bigger projects (outline by X, first draft by y, meet with the teacher and revise by Z, etc). Get her a project planner for this. Basically show her how to be disciplined, so she learns those skills. And not just for the next month. You should plan on doing this in the fall as well.
How old is your child, and what is your professional background in mental health issues?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ugh.
Here is the problem with MCPS.
The grading system, ParentVue, etc, doesn't work well enough for parents to be able to see if kids are turning in assignments on time.
In addition, most teachers just let kids skate and if they don't turn in assignments, oh well, that's on them! THey will just get a D.
So the kids are not held accountable.
And yes, ideally, kids are organized enough to stay on top of their work and be diligent and turn it all in on their own.
But they are kids!
Personally I think MCPS needs a better system that shows what is due and when and whether they have been turned in. Kids should get a couple days grace period and if it hasn't been turned in by the deadline, an email automatically goes out to parents and kid. Kid has two days to turn in assignment but has a few points taken off.
When I was in school,. you had to turn your assignments in in person. The teacher would say, turn your assignment in, she would count them, and if yours wasn't there, she would publically shame you by asking you why you had not turned your assignment in. Parents would be called.
Now teachers are just like, whatever. And the parents can't figure out because the system doesn't update well!
I would agree with this after trying to help my son catch up on work after being out a lot due to illness. Every time I thought he was caught up, a teacher would post another 0 on a test or assignment that he had missed.