Anonymous wrote:Think about this, OP. Really think.

A woman gets pregnant. Maybe she's young, maybe older. Odds are that she already has children at home she is raising, but for some this would be the first.

Even if she would have chosen to have an abortion, now she can't. So she goes through 9 months of getting bigger and bigger, having people ask if she is pregnant, people asking if she's chosen a name, asking if the big brother or sister at home is excited. Offering advice about strollers, breastfeeding, colors for the nursery.

Abortion often is a private event. (That is what pisses people off who feel it should be punished.) You can make the choice and sort it out without commentary on it by everyone around you, or without other people feeling they have input.

Pregnancy is a very visible and public event. Other people comment on, advise, offer help, and have opinions.

To stand up to that and say, "no, I (or we) don't want this baby, and we're going to give it up for adoption" is enormously hard. It's also not what many do after going through the labor and delivery and having that bonding moment.

Most people are going to try to make it work. And newborns are relatively easy! They stay where you put them. They don't get into trouble, or talk back, or run out the door into traffic. You can make do, even if you aren't ready.

The kids that are going to be given up or taken away are older. They are old enough to remember violence, to talk back, to bring that trauma with them.

It's a sick fantasy that you'll have a sweet, precious little "domestic supply of infants." You will, however, have a domestic supply of traumatized older kids who need to be cared for.

And it doesn't even need to be 5+ years. I have two friends dealing with really difficult situations with children (now teens) they adopted at 2-3 years old who have reactive attachment disorder and are violent. After seeing what they've gone through I could never adopt a child that is not a newborn.

Anonymous wrote:Adoption is a winner for all. Ask my kids.

No, there won't be more kids available for adoption. There will be more poor kids and teen moms.

Was it a winner for the woman who may have been raped and forced to have her rapists bastard? How was it a winner for a woman who simply could not afford to keep her baby to give it away to you because you had more money? If you care so much about child then why didn't you ask if you could help her keep her child? Adoption is selfishness and greed on your part.

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Adoption is quite traumatic to the birth mother and child. The only real winners are the adoptive parents.


Not true in the case of children who actually need and want parents, like homeless teens. It's beyond tragic that people celebrate forcing women to have birth so they can have an infant to adopt, while ignoring actual children who desperately need love and care.

I agree with you but let's be realistic---there aren't a lot of people who are willing to take on the challenges of parenting a traumatized teen. It is really, really hard. And now we are on a collision course in the anti-choice states to create way more of those kids. I can be pro-adoption AND pro-choice.

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Anonymous wrote:There are indeed posters here who are clearly anti-adoption.

Adoption is quite traumatic to the birth mother and child. The only real winners are the adoptive parents.

Not true in the case of children who actually need and want parents, like homeless teens. It's beyond tragic that people celebrate forcing women to have birth so they can have an infant to adopt, while ignoring actual children who desperately need love and care.

Think about this, OP. Really think.

A woman gets pregnant. Maybe she's young, maybe older. Odds are that she already has children at home she is raising, but for some this would be the first.

Even if she would have chosen to have an abortion, now she can't. So she goes through 9 months of getting bigger and bigger, having people ask if she is pregnant, people asking if she's chosen a name, asking if the big brother or sister at home is excited. Offering advice about strollers, breastfeeding, colors for the nursery.

Abortion often is a private event. (That is what pisses people off who feel it should be punished.) You can make the choice and sort it out without commentary on it by everyone around you, or without other people feeling they have input.

Pregnancy is a very visible and public event. Other people comment on, advise, offer help, and have opinions.

To stand up to that and say, "no, I (or we) don't want this baby, and we're going to give it up for adoption" is enormously hard. It's also not what many do after going through the labor and delivery and having that bonding moment.

Most people are going to try to make it work. And newborns are relatively easy! They stay where you put them. They don't get into trouble, or talk back, or run out the door into traffic. You can make do, even if you aren't ready.

The kids that are going to be given up or taken away are older. They are old enough to remember violence, to talk back, to bring that trauma with them.

It's a sick fantasy that you'll have a sweet, precious little "domestic supply of infants." You will, however, have a domestic supply of traumatized older kids who need to be cared for.

Yes, and to make it worse, that increase will be into a current child welfare system paradigm that advocates for reunification above all, even to biological parents who demonstrate their unfitness to care for children over and over again. And, if those biological parents who never really wanted to be parents anyway just decide to walk away from the kids when the kids are 3, or 5, or 6, or older, the trauma for the kids is compounded. And I know this from the experience of being an adoptive parent of older children.

Think about this, OP. Really think.

A woman gets pregnant. Maybe she's young, maybe older. Odds are that she already has children at home she is raising, but for some this would be the first.

Even if she would have chosen to have an abortion, now she can't. So she goes through 9 months of getting bigger and bigger, having people ask if she is pregnant, people asking if she's chosen a name, asking if the big brother or sister at home is excited. Offering advice about strollers, breastfeeding, colors for the nursery.

Abortion often is a private event. (That is what pisses people off who feel it should be punished.) You can make the choice and sort it out without commentary on it by everyone around you, or without other people feeling they have input.

Pregnancy is a very visible and public event. Other people comment on, advise, offer help, and have opinions.

To stand up to that and say, "no, I (or we) don't want this baby, and we're going to give it up for adoption" is enormously hard. It's also not what many do after going through the labor and delivery and having that bonding moment.

Most people are going to try to make it work. And newborns are relatively easy! They stay where you put them. They don't get into trouble, or talk back, or run out the door into traffic. You can make do, even if you aren't ready.

The kids that are going to be given up or taken away are older. They are old enough to remember violence, to talk back, to bring that trauma with them.

It's a sick fantasy that you'll have a sweet, precious little "domestic supply of infants." You will, however, have a domestic supply of traumatized older kids who need to be cared for.

Adoption is a winner for all. Ask my kids.

No, there won't be more kids available for adoption. There will be more poor kids and teen moms.

Anonymous wrote:There are indeed posters here who are clearly anti-adoption.

People answered the OP’s question. White babies won’t suddenly become available. They will be adopted by relatives or kept. |

Facts don’t care about your feelings.

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Anonymous wrote:And medical abortions are still legal.

Abortions are still legal. It's all about timing. Chances are if you wait until 9 months, it's going to be difficult, though not impossible.

If you do it in the first 9 weeks, you have plenty of options.

And you can still take the morning after pill as well.

I don't think there are going to be a plethora of babies to adopt. Adoption is still a very difficult process. Our good friends waited 7 years.

Yeah uh huh. How many Planned Parenthood clinics are there in Texas in 2023?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are indeed posters here who are clearly anti-adoption.

Adoption is quite traumatic to the birth mother and child. The only real winners are the adoptive parents.

+1

That's actually one reason we decided not to adopt, eventually.

Assume most women who are forced to give birth will keep their baby for as long as possible, unless they were raped. So, most of these babies will not be available for adoption, unless they are eventually taken away for good reason by CPS. And I'm not sure I would want to adopt a rape baby.

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Anonymous wrote:And medical abortions are still legal.

Abortions are still legal. It's all about timing. Chances are if you wait until 9 months, it's going to be difficult, though not impossible.

If you do it in the first 9 weeks, you have plenty of options.

And you can still take the morning after pill as well.

I don't think there are going to be a plethora of babies to adopt. Adoption is still a very difficult process. Our good friends waited 7 years.

Depends on what state you live in.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are indeed posters here who are clearly anti-adoption.

Adoption is quite traumatic to the birth mother and child. The only real winners are the adoptive parents.

+1

Anonymous wrote:There are indeed posters here who are clearly anti-adoption.

Adoption is quite traumatic to the birth mother and child. The only real winners are the adoptive parents.

Anonymous wrote:And medical abortions are still legal.

Abortions are still legal. It's all about timing. Chances are if you wait until 9 months, it's going to be difficult, though not impossible.

If you do it in the first 9 weeks, you have plenty of options.

And you can still take the morning after pill as well.

I don't think there are going to be a plethora of babies to adopt. Adoption is still a very difficult process. Our good friends waited 7 years.

There are indeed posters here who are clearly anti-adoption.