I don’t get what’s hard to understand. Some people work hard their whole lives and really struggle. They see other people not working, taking it easy, and living the same quality of life because the rest of us are paying for it. How is it hard to understand why people would be upset by that?

Why would you work hard for $11/hr when you could relax and get $10/hr for free? (Or whatever numbers make sense for the situation.)

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in the Midwest in the 1970s, in the urban core. My mother was a SAHM. My father was self-employed. They struggled to make ends meet. When we went to the grocery store, my mother would sometimes comment after we left, how full the grocery carts would be of the people using food stamps (no EBT card at the time). And how they usually bought junk my mother couldn't afford to buy. And they had more children, sometimes in diapers and no shoes. And they would buy cigarettes. I think the buying of the cigarettes was the kicker. LoL. Lots of judgment.

Actually her personal judgment and behavior seems pretty good.

I’ve wondered about this so I’m sitting down for answers. I don’t get it either.

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Anonymous wrote:Yep pp hit it on the nose. The cashier is mad because they are a cashier and needs to lord it over someone.

At least the cashier is working and doing a job.

I'm not saying OP could be working but uses welfare as an excuse to not work, but there are absolutely many many people who are capable of working, but would rather be paid (via welfare) to not work.

There are of course some people who legitimately cannot work and need welfare.

Everyone I know who gets SNAP benefits IS working. You have a greave misunderstanding of how government assistance works if you think people are out here living large on it in the DC area.

Welfare.was supposed to be limited to 5 years. But didn't DC decide to supplement it so you can essentially live on welfare forever?

You're working off of stereotypes from the 80s. You can apply for SNAP benefits, which is about $240/person, or for TANF, temporary financial assistance. The eligibility requirements are problematic and do inadvertently cause people to choose between a low-paying job and a slightly-better paying job that will make them ineligible for benefits. But even for a family of 4 the benefits amount to less than $1000/month and it's not cash.

Similarly, the TANF support amounts are very small compared to the cost of living in this area--$851 for a family of 4. Benefits expire after two years. There are supports like job training and mental health treatment. Think about all your monthly expenses and consider whether people are living large on the government dime with these amounts.

Anonymous wrote:Because there are many terrible humans out there who reproduce like crazy in order to get welfare checks. They give zero craps about raising kids and only about how many dependents they can lost in order to get more $$$..

I know you want the myth of the money-grubbing, hypersexual welfare queen to be true, but it just isn't. The disabled and retired combined receive far more government benefits than any other category. And in almost every state, benefits are capped for a certain number of years, regardless of the number of children. Finally, most people on government assistance are working class. Your local librarian may be receiving "welfare checks" in the form of food assistance of housing vouchers.

Also, you have to remember how welfare used to work - if a couple had kids, they could double down on welfare by the mother filing for welfare as well as the father asing as they didn't marry. That has changed, but you used to double dip and people would game the system by getting huge amounts of welfare checks by pumping out kids and staying unmarried. Welfare incentivized single parent households. Many people who are against welfare still have that scenario stuck in their brains from a while ago. It did happen before.

Anonymous wrote:Because there are many terrible humans out there who reproduce like crazy in order to get welfare checks. They give zero craps about raising kids and only about how many dependents they can lost in order to get more $$$..

That’s terrible. I feel bad for the kids the most. It’s a never ending cycle for generations to come.

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up in the Midwest in the 1970s, in the urban core. My mother was a SAHM. My father was self-employed. They struggled to make ends meet. When we went to the grocery store, my mother would sometimes comment after we left, how full the grocery carts would be of the people using food stamps (no EBT card at the time). And how they usually bought junk my mother couldn't afford to buy. And they had more children, sometimes in diapers and no shoes. And they would buy cigarettes. I think the buying of the cigarettes was the kicker. LoL. Lots of judgment.

Maybe they shopped once or twice a month; no wonder the carts were full. Junk food is cheaper, has more packaging around it, lasts longer. I was an Au Pair in Maryland for a lovely middle class educated people. They bought so much crap for their children and you expect lower class people know better. Their diets have been corrupted from infancy.
More children? Maybe they didn't have birth control, maybe they needed them to feel love. Raising kids is not easy, but they had need for them that was clearly stronger than thinking how hard the next 18-20 years would be.
Cigarettes? Everyone smoked in 70s.
I judge you, because you saw better and you know better. Since you are so much better and know better, you should know exactly why the poor behave the way they do. They can't help it really. I few can. There's a good movie quote that goes something like that,' first you make thieves and then you punish them'. So, first the society creates poor people, keep them poor for generation and punish them for that.

I want to agree with you but I grew up in a lower class environment, think mother took in laundry to earn extra food dollars. I got a job as soon as I could and contributed to the family budget, but somehow managed to get myself through college and come out stronger and financially comfortable. My observation from the neighborhood I grew up in, pure f g laziness. No excuse for an 18 year old girl to sit on her parents door steps all day rather than finding job. Not one excuse. Yet I witnessed this throughout my early years and was especially in tune with it in my teen years. Sodas and bags of chips (we never had those, because we did not have extra money for junk food in our grocery cart), the young poor people in my neighborhood would walk to the local store, grab some snacks and sit in front of their houses laughing at us coming and going to our jobs, be it a babysitter or whatever. Laziness, just pure f g laziness, well that, and knowing they could suck off tax paying idiots for the rest of their soulless lives. No sympathy from me whatsoever.

Because there are many terrible humans out there who reproduce like crazy in order to get welfare checks. They give zero craps about raising kids and only about how many dependents they can lost in order to get more $$$..

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Anonymous wrote:Working class who are just barely making ends meet (but without assistance) are the most bitter toward welfare. I was raised by parents like this. So much disdain for welfare because they worked very hard are still only had barely enough for the same existence. Back when grocery stores started allowing credit cards in my childhood, my mom totally judged those people and told me that anyone who used a CC couldn’t afford their groceries. It’s funny how the world has changed.

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there is a poster on the first page who explained that to keep SNAP benefits you have to make under a certain amount

It is a system we need to change and benefits need to phase out for people once they start working and earning an income instead of posing a hard cut off income.

Yes, the welfare cliff is real. It essentially punishes people for making slightly more money and trying to lift themselves out of poverty. It incentivizes people to make less. Some sort of phasing or sliding scale would be so much more helpful to people.

Anonymous wrote:Working class who are just barely making ends meet (but without assistance) are the most bitter toward welfare. I was raised by parents like this. So much disdain for welfare because they worked very hard are still only had barely enough for the same existence. Back when grocery stores started allowing credit cards in my childhood, my mom totally judged those people and told me that anyone who used a CC couldn’t afford their groceries. It’s funny how the world has changed.

+1

there is a poster on the first page who explained that to keep SNAP benefits you have to make under a certain amount

It is a system we need to change and benefits need to phase out for people once they start working and earning an income instead of posing a hard cut off income.

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in the Midwest in the 1970s, in the urban core. My mother was a SAHM. My father was self-employed. They struggled to make ends meet. When we went to the grocery store, my mother would sometimes comment after we left, how full the grocery carts would be of the people using food stamps (no EBT card at the time). And how they usually bought junk my mother couldn't afford to buy. And they had more children, sometimes in diapers and no shoes. And they would buy cigarettes. I think the buying of the cigarettes was the kicker. LoL. Lots of judgment.

Maybe they shopped once or twice a month; no wonder the carts were full. Junk food is cheaper, has more packaging around it, lasts longer. I was an Au Pair in Maryland for a lovely middle class educated people. They bought so much crap for their children and you expect lower class people know better. Their diets have been corrupted from infancy.
More children? Maybe they didn't have birth control, maybe they needed them to feel love. Raising kids is not easy, but they had need for them that was clearly stronger than thinking how hard the next 18-20 years would be.
Cigarettes? Everyone smoked in 70s.
I judge you, because you saw better and you know better. Since you are so much better and know better, you should know exactly why the poor behave the way they do. They can't help it really. I few can. There's a good movie quote that goes something like that,' first you make thieves and then you punish them'. So, first the society creates poor people, keep them poor for generation and punish them for that.

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Anonymous wrote:“If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.“

Instantly thought of this. Yes, the rich get the most welfare, but they love that everyone else is fighting over the crumbs and they want to keep you distracted with the (tiny amounts within a budget) of welfare.

You know plenty of white people get welfare and disability? Funny how you automatically made it a question of racism.

Um, no. YOU just made it about racism.
I was just reminded of this meme in a similar vein, as I said, where the guy with all the cookies is having fun getting everyone worked up about one cookie.
The meme is about race, but the concept I introduced was that it's the same. The rich getting welfare love that the middle class and the poor are fighting over a cookie.
I know this is probably beyond your comprehension and you just want to cry "Race!", so maybe stay out of threads you don't understand.

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Anonymous wrote:“If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.“

Instantly thought of this. Yes, the rich get the most welfare, but they love that everyone else is fighting over the crumbs and they want to keep you distracted with the (tiny amounts within a budget) of welfare.

You know plenty of white people get welfare and disability? Funny how you automatically made it a question of racism.

Those white people constantly vote against it, while drawing it themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:“If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.“

Instantly thought of this. Yes, the rich get the most welfare, but they love that everyone else is fighting over the crumbs and they want to keep you distracted with the (tiny amounts within a budget) of welfare.

You know plenty of white people get welfare and disability? Funny how you automatically made it a question of racism.