Anonymous
Post 03/27/2023 19:04     Subject: Team work dinner scheduled first night of Passover
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just because it's on a calendar doesn't mean that:

1) People understand the significance.
2) People know your personal level of adherence.

Also, let's please not pretend that this only happens to religious minorities in the US. The percentage of Americans that can list the Holy Days of Obligation for Catholics must be exceptionally small. We should all maintain broad understanding of other cultures/religions, but it's unreasonable to expect global awareness. It's okay for people to have to advocate for themselves.


Catholics who observe the Holy Days of Obligation (that aren't already federal holidays because the federal calendar is built on Christianity) are a religious minority in the United States.


Holy Thursday, Good Friday, Ash Wednesday, Valentines Day, St. Patrick’s Day, Fat Tuesday, Feast of the Immaculate Conception, All Saints Day. There is a lot


Valentine day and St Patrick's day are off limits for work obligations?



Yes, there are many people that have private events to celebrate these popular days.
Giving religious celebrations special treatment would be discrimination.
Anonymous
Post 03/27/2023 17:08     Subject: Team work dinner scheduled first night of Passover
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just because it's on a calendar doesn't mean that:

1) People understand the significance.
2) People know your personal level of adherence.

Also, let's please not pretend that this only happens to religious minorities in the US. The percentage of Americans that can list the Holy Days of Obligation for Catholics must be exceptionally small. We should all maintain broad understanding of other cultures/religions, but it's unreasonable to expect global awareness. It's okay for people to have to advocate for themselves.


Catholics who observe the Holy Days of Obligation (that aren't already federal holidays because the federal calendar is built on Christianity) are a religious minority in the United States.


Holy Thursday, Good Friday, Ash Wednesday, Valentines Day, St. Patrick’s Day, Fat Tuesday, Feast of the Immaculate Conception, All Saints Day. There is a lot


Valentine day and St Patrick's day are off limits for work obligations?



So you think as a male boss it is ok to take your female workers out to a "work event" after work on Valentines day? Actually might be worse for a female boss to do it.
Anonymous
Post 03/27/2023 16:20     Subject: Team work dinner scheduled first night of Passover
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just because it's on a calendar doesn't mean that:

1) People understand the significance.
2) People know your personal level of adherence.

Also, let's please not pretend that this only happens to religious minorities in the US. The percentage of Americans that can list the Holy Days of Obligation for Catholics must be exceptionally small. We should all maintain broad understanding of other cultures/religions, but it's unreasonable to expect global awareness. It's okay for people to have to advocate for themselves.


Catholics who observe the Holy Days of Obligation (that aren't already federal holidays because the federal calendar is built on Christianity) are a religious minority in the United States.


Holy Thursday, Good Friday, Ash Wednesday, Valentines Day, St. Patrick’s Day, Fat Tuesday, Feast of the Immaculate Conception, All Saints Day. There is a lot


Valentine day and St Patrick's day are off limits for work obligations?



No, and they aren't Holy Days of Obligation either.


Plus you can work on most Holy Days of Obligation. They definitely made us come to Catholic school on those days.
Anonymous
Post 03/27/2023 16:11     Subject: Team work dinner scheduled first night of Passover
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just because it's on a calendar doesn't mean that:

1) People understand the significance.
2) People know your personal level of adherence.

Also, let's please not pretend that this only happens to religious minorities in the US. The percentage of Americans that can list the Holy Days of Obligation for Catholics must be exceptionally small. We should all maintain broad understanding of other cultures/religions, but it's unreasonable to expect global awareness. It's okay for people to have to advocate for themselves.


Catholics who observe the Holy Days of Obligation (that aren't already federal holidays because the federal calendar is built on Christianity) are a religious minority in the United States.


Holy Thursday, Good Friday, Ash Wednesday, Valentines Day, St. Patrick’s Day, Fat Tuesday, Feast of the Immaculate Conception, All Saints Day. There is a lot


Valentine day and St Patrick's day are off limits for work obligations?



No, and they aren't Holy Days of Obligation either.

Anonymous
Post 03/27/2023 16:09     Subject: Re:Team work dinner scheduled first night of Passover
Any evidence of antisemitism?
Anonymous
Post 03/27/2023 15:58     Subject: Team work dinner scheduled first night of Passover
Hope you raised it today, OP!
Anonymous
Post 03/27/2023 15:58     Subject: Team work dinner scheduled first night of Passover
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: I think you can go with "I'm looking forward to the meetings Wednesday and Thursday but I can't make the dinner Wednesday night because of Passover" and leave it at that.

That may trigger him to cancel it if there are other people on the team for whom it would create a conflict.




But that's never going to change the way this person, or others act going forward. By pointing it out, it raises awareness.


That seems like pointing it out to me.

If there’s some way to automatically load holidays into Outlook, I’d love to know how.


I think it's the Outlook option titled, United State Holidays. They are definitely all pre-populated on my iphone.
Anonymous
Post 03/27/2023 15:50     Subject: Team work dinner scheduled first night of Passover
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just because it's on a calendar doesn't mean that:

1) People understand the significance.
2) People know your personal level of adherence.

Also, let's please not pretend that this only happens to religious minorities in the US. The percentage of Americans that can list the Holy Days of Obligation for Catholics must be exceptionally small. We should all maintain broad understanding of other cultures/religions, but it's unreasonable to expect global awareness. It's okay for people to have to advocate for themselves.


Catholics who observe the Holy Days of Obligation (that aren't already federal holidays because the federal calendar is built on Christianity) are a religious minority in the United States.


Holy Thursday, Good Friday, Ash Wednesday, Valentines Day, St. Patrick’s Day, Fat Tuesday, Feast of the Immaculate Conception, All Saints Day. There is a lot


Valentine day and St Patrick's day are off limits for work obligations?

Anonymous
Post 03/27/2023 15:46     Subject: Team work dinner scheduled first night of Passover
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: I think you can go with "I'm looking forward to the meetings Wednesday and Thursday but I can't make the dinner Wednesday night because of Passover" and leave it at that.

That may trigger him to cancel it if there are other people on the team for whom it would create a conflict.




But that's never going to change the way this person, or others act going forward. By pointing it out, it raises awareness.


That seems like pointing it out to me.

If there’s some way to automatically load holidays into Outlook, I’d love to know how.
Anonymous
Post 03/27/2023 15:41     Subject: Team work dinner scheduled first night of Passover
I am sure they would reschedule if they were advised that this is Passover. I know I’d be horrified at my mistake if I did this!
Anonymous
Post 03/27/2023 15:34     Subject: Team work dinner scheduled first night of Passover
Anonymous wrote: I think you can go with "I'm looking forward to the meetings Wednesday and Thursday but I can't make the dinner Wednesday night because of Passover" and leave it at that.

That may trigger him to cancel it if there are other people on the team for whom it would create a conflict.




But that's never going to change the way this person, or others act going forward. By pointing it out, it raises awareness.
Anonymous
Post 03/27/2023 15:32     Subject: Team work dinner scheduled first night of Passover
I think you can go with "I'm looking forward to the meetings Wednesday and Thursday but I can't make the dinner Wednesday night because of Passover" and leave it at that.

That may trigger him to cancel it if there are other people on the team for whom it would create a conflict.


Anonymous
Post 03/27/2023 13:14     Subject: Team work dinner scheduled first night of Passover
Anonymous wrote:I work for a place that schedules major events on Jewish holidays because it's cheaper. But we're run by a mid-west firm that is anti-woke in every sense of the word so not a shock.


Us Jewish people call that call that “free ham”
Anonymous
Post 03/27/2023 09:34     Subject: Team work dinner scheduled first night of Passover
I work for a place that schedules major events on Jewish holidays because it's cheaper. But we're run by a mid-west firm that is anti-woke in every sense of the word so not a shock.
Anonymous
Post 03/27/2023 09:09     Subject: Team work dinner scheduled first night of Passover
Mention it or ask a friend to mention. The is a very observant Jewish member of another team I work with and my team is perpetually reminding the other team that they have proposed a meeting on major Jewish holidays.