Anonymous
Post 03/26/2023 16:24     Subject: Why is it like this?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is happening in schools throughout MCPS at all grade levels. It's so sad! We moved to the area for the schools, and in the past few years, pulled our kids out of public HS and moved them to private (I still work in public).

My friends and I that are still teaching are miserable. I don't see changes coming any time soon, but I am telling you, something's got to give. We already don't have enough teachers, paraeducators, special educators or substitutes. How the heck does this shake down?!?!


They seem like post from some alternate reality. My kids schools are nothing like what's being described here and I just have to wonder if this is even real.


How would you know?


Oh, it’s happening. The thing is, I now just consider these behaviors a “normal” day in my classroom. Maybe there are pockets of utopian classrooms in the county, but even the teacher from the W feeder school posted about the challenges she faces on a daily basis.


Do they dock your pay whe you to go off script?
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2023 15:30     Subject: Why is it like this?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is happening in schools throughout MCPS at all grade levels. It's so sad! We moved to the area for the schools, and in the past few years, pulled our kids out of public HS and moved them to private (I still work in public).

My friends and I that are still teaching are miserable. I don't see changes coming any time soon, but I am telling you, something's got to give. We already don't have enough teachers, paraeducators, special educators or substitutes. How the heck does this shake down?!?!


They seem like post from some alternate reality. My kids schools are nothing like what's being described here and I just have to wonder if this is even real.


How would you know?


Oh, it’s happening. The thing is, I now just consider these behaviors a “normal” day in my classroom. Maybe there are pockets of utopian classrooms in the county, but even the teacher from the W feeder school posted about the challenges she faces on a daily basis.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2023 15:22     Subject: Why is it like this?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is happening in schools throughout MCPS at all grade levels. It's so sad! We moved to the area for the schools, and in the past few years, pulled our kids out of public HS and moved them to private (I still work in public).

My friends and I that are still teaching are miserable. I don't see changes coming any time soon, but I am telling you, something's got to give. We already don't have enough teachers, paraeducators, special educators or substitutes. How the heck does this shake down?!?!


They seem like post from some alternate reality. My kids schools are nothing like what's being described here and I just have to wonder if this is even real.


How would you know?
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2023 14:51     Subject: Why is it like this?
I work at one of the top elementary schools that feed into a W school. There are many kids completely out of control and it’s because of the parents. They are in complete denial and make excuses for their horribly behaved children. There are no shortcuts to raising children (I am a mother as well so I get it). However, to those parents- I always think, ok, I have one frustrating year with your kid but good luck- you’ve made your bed and you’re going to wish you had set limitations, taken away devices, held your child accountable, and stopped fixing all of their problems when they get older. If your kid wants to keep throwing a temper tantrum in class bc they don’t get their way, then so be it. They can sit in the hallway for all I care and not learn. I have 24 other kids to worry about and I’m done devoting all my attention to one brat who has obnoxious parents. Having this mindset has made an enormous difference!
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2023 14:02     Subject: Why is it like this?
Anonymous wrote:The worst was having McKnight visit my school last week and write up how wonderful it was to visit and see such engaged children. However, she "forgot" to mention that we have 3 elementary school classrooms without teachers, fights in the hallways and recess, Kids crying about how dangerous their classes are, and almost all students struggling academically. But clearly, the parents on this board believe the photo ops and think things are going swimmingly.

I have a feeling that once the problems really infiltrate the W schools, then you'll believe the teachers but there won't be many left. No current teacher is suggesting that anyone go into teaching. It's a horrible profession right now which is sad because it was always my dream job.


I think it has actually infiltrated the W schools, but lots of those families can easily go private.

It’s really a bummer for middle class families who rely on a solid public education system. Our public education system is in shambles, and it stinks.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2023 13:43     Subject: Why is it like this?
Anonymous wrote:The worst was having McKnight visit my school last week and write up how wonderful it was to visit and see such engaged children. However, she "forgot" to mention that we have 3 elementary school classrooms without teachers, fights in the hallways and recess, Kids crying about how dangerous their classes are, and almost all students struggling academically. But clearly, the parents on this board believe the photo ops and think things are going swimmingly.

I have a feeling that once the problems really infiltrate the W schools, then you'll believe the teachers but there won't be many left. No current teacher is suggesting that anyone go into teaching. It's a horrible profession right now which is sad because it was always my dream job.


I think she should have to visit the elementary schools with the SESES programs and see what happens on a daily basis. She can pick up what I like to call one of the “Viking shield walls” (large, padded protection that the staff can put between themselves and the students when the students become physical and throw things at adults) on her way into each classroom. She will see firsthand the damage to the rooms and hear the same language we hear throughout the hallway. Whatever you can imagine students saying, it’s much worse in reality. The staff that work in these programs look she’ll-shocked every day.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2023 13:39     Subject: Why is it like this?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This sounds like you need to get your classroom under control. You tell kids when snack time is. Done.
You teach vs. dump kids on chromebooks.
You tell them this is the consequence if you don't get bathroom permission and have a pass or sign out sheet.
As a teacher, you need to set expectations and be consistent.


I am not a classroom teacher and I see these things in many classrooms. Teachers do have good classroom management.

When the teacher gives clear expectations of snack time/food in the classroom all the kids need to do is go home, say "Ms. so and so wouldn't let me eat my snack." Parent emails angry. (kid knows they will do this). Admin asks "why wouldn't you let Ella have her snack?" She needs it to (pick your reason) calm her down/because of her medicine/in order to better concentrate. After that happens multiple times it becomes discouraging to enforce a rule that the kids can easily undermine and they know it.

In upper grades, kids complete many writing assignments on the Chrome book. Take the Chrome book away? Well, then what about all the kids that are required or desire to have speech-to-text/need access to their technology tools?

It's endless. I'm pretty sure you've never been in a classroom.


ES kids don't need chrome books. You are talking about SN kids and some may need a snack for health reasons. You sound pretty clueless.


The vast majority of kids, SN or NT, do not need a snack during class “for health reasons.” You sound pretty clueless.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2023 13:35     Subject: Why is it like this?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some of you calling the OP a troll have no clue what goes on inside mcps schools. I am a para at a Silver Spring elementary and I’ve seen everything the OP has described.


Para at a W and agree 100%. Parents are in such denile about what is really happening in MCPS


Well I'm just a teacher at a DCC school but these posts seem overly dramatic, and histrionic.


Very easy to tell the real teachers from the people posing as teachers on here. Grow up.


I’m also a teacher at a DCC school and see most of what the OP has shared on a daily basis. We don’t have lockers at our school, so the students don’t leave the room for their supplies. However, the comments about the snacks, use of fidgets (often provided by the counselor), drawing/doodling during instruction (resulting in missing key points of a lesson), opting out of doing homework (which is only a few math problems 3 or 4 days a week), disrespect, the need to discuss their feelings immediately, etc., are all happening at my school as well.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2023 13:29     Subject: Why is it like this?
The worst was having McKnight visit my school last week and write up how wonderful it was to visit and see such engaged children. However, she "forgot" to mention that we have 3 elementary school classrooms without teachers, fights in the hallways and recess, Kids crying about how dangerous their classes are, and almost all students struggling academically. But clearly, the parents on this board believe the photo ops and think things are going swimmingly.

I have a feeling that once the problems really infiltrate the W schools, then you'll believe the teachers but there won't be many left. No current teacher is suggesting that anyone go into teaching. It's a horrible profession right now which is sad because it was always my dream job.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2023 13:19     Subject: Why is it like this?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some of you calling the OP a troll have no clue what goes on inside mcps schools. I am a para at a Silver Spring elementary and I’ve seen everything the OP has described.


Para at a W and agree 100%. Parents are in such denile about what is really happening in MCPS


Well I'm just a teacher at a DCC school but these posts seem overly dramatic, and histrionic.


Very easy to tell the real teachers from the people posing as teachers on here. Grow up.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2023 10:15     Subject: Why is it like this?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some of you calling the OP a troll have no clue what goes on inside mcps schools. I am a para at a Silver Spring elementary and I’ve seen everything the OP has described.


Para at a W and agree 100%. Parents are in such denile about what is really happening in MCPS


Well I'm just a teacher at a DCC school but these posts seem overly dramatic, and histrionic.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2023 09:55     Subject: Why is it like this?
Anonymous wrote:Some of you calling the OP a troll have no clue what goes on inside mcps schools. I am a para at a Silver Spring elementary and I’ve seen everything the OP has described.


Para at a W and agree 100%. Parents are in such denile about what is really happening in MCPS
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2023 09:45     Subject: Why is it like this?
Some of you calling the OP a troll have no clue what goes on inside mcps schools. I am a para at a Silver Spring elementary and I’ve seen everything the OP has described.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2023 04:25     Subject: Why is it like this?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is happening in schools throughout MCPS at all grade levels. It's so sad! We moved to the area for the schools, and in the past few years, pulled our kids out of public HS and moved them to private (I still work in public).

My friends and I that are still teaching are miserable. I don't see changes coming any time soon, but I am telling you, something's got to give. We already don't have enough teachers, paraeducators, special educators or substitutes. How the heck does this shake down?!?!


They seem like post from some alternate reality. My kids schools are nothing like what's being described here and I just have to wonder if this is even real.


It's not. The troll farm is working overtime.