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Taking over an office building isn't going to give you near enough space for a 4th comprehensive high school. that's the whole problem.
Anonymous wrote:The county has been very clear that children do not live in anything but single family homes. All the units built (58 lots times as much as 6plex or a little as duplex) will only have adults living there. Just like affordable housing only has adults and no children. I truly wish the county would work on our infrastructure (focusing on schools especially high schools) before adding density. I am anti MM but understand that Arlington will and should become more dense, but the county should provide for current residents before adding so many more
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: School board has been clear that there's no land to build another comprehensive high school.
That's what eminent domain is for. Just take over some lobbyists' office spaces, even if lobbying is protected by the first amendment.
Taking over an office building isn't going to give you near enough space for a 4th comprehensive high school. that's the whole problem. You need space for all the fields and pools or whatever, or the kids at that school are just going to have to share the facilities at some preexisting high schools that already has too many kids fighting for use of the facilities. That's why the discussion of doing the 4th comprehensive 10 (or whatever) years ago was key and the county just couldn't find a way to make it happen. If they couldn't do it then, they won't do it now, or 5 years from now, or 10 -- because there is just not the land to do it. I think washington country club should donate their golf course -- that might be enough space (though it's basically right in between WL and Yorktown so...). Or maybe we could turn a park into a high school.
Meanwhile, if you don't do something drastic like that, it's flex scheduling or virtual schools on the table and I don't think anyone really wants that. Or just keep crowding kids into WL? County just keeps sitting on its hands thinking bonus density being used by developers is a good idea and teachers keep quitting so ... not really sure what's going to happen here.
Let this go. It's not happening and there is a compelling case for why it's not necessary and worth the enormous expense. Siphon off kids who will self-select into high-quality specialty programs...STEM, performing arts, other. There will be plenty of fields left for the kids who prioritize this kind of experience.
WHAT high quality specialty programs are you talking about, besides Arlington Tech? Nothing like this currently exists. How long do you think it would take the county to budget and create something like that when currently NOTHING LIKE THAT is on their TO DO list or even running wild in their imaginations?
DP. And they still need space for these programs.
Even if they just make Arlington Tech into a high quality math/science/engineering/CS program, they would clearly get lots of students to do it. People fall all over themselves to get into HB. Why would this be any different if marketed well. I'm telling you they've already started doing this. They have middle school kids thinking Arlington Tech is the dream. Over subscribed and lottery in place. A new building and expanded student body with more class offerings as a result means they will have plenty of takers and Chad and Ethan can be assured of their access to the lacrosse fields.
People are desperate to get to Hb because it’s a capped student population. Arlington Tech is just a program within the huge Career Center campus, so you have tech students and hair styling and culinary students and it’s almost as hectic as the full size high schools, just without fields and pool.
The huge campus? Have you been there?
Career Center is now at 900. The new building will allow for 1550 students. That is a lot smaller than any of the other high schools and like HB, the student population will be capped. As it is now. No chance of overcrowding. People will go for it. Lots of people do not care about fields or a pool. Enough people to fill the school and then some.
Small population is not critical to the “program” like HB claims, it will be enlarged in near future.
Give me a break! It is NOT being enlarged. Post your source or admit you are a liar.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: School board has been clear that there's no land to build another comprehensive high school.
That's what eminent domain is for. Just take over some lobbyists' office spaces, even if lobbying is protected by the first amendment.
Taking over an office building isn't going to give you near enough space for a 4th comprehensive high school. that's the whole problem. You need space for all the fields and pools or whatever, or the kids at that school are just going to have to share the facilities at some preexisting high schools that already has too many kids fighting for use of the facilities. That's why the discussion of doing the 4th comprehensive 10 (or whatever) years ago was key and the county just couldn't find a way to make it happen. If they couldn't do it then, they won't do it now, or 5 years from now, or 10 -- because there is just not the land to do it. I think washington country club should donate their golf course -- that might be enough space (though it's basically right in between WL and Yorktown so...). Or maybe we could turn a park into a high school.
Meanwhile, if you don't do something drastic like that, it's flex scheduling or virtual schools on the table and I don't think anyone really wants that. Or just keep crowding kids into WL? County just keeps sitting on its hands thinking bonus density being used by developers is a good idea and teachers keep quitting so ... not really sure what's going to happen here.
Let this go. It's not happening and there is a compelling case for why it's not necessary and worth the enormous expense. Siphon off kids who will self-select into high-quality specialty programs...STEM, performing arts, other. There will be plenty of fields left for the kids who prioritize this kind of experience.
WHAT high quality specialty programs are you talking about, besides Arlington Tech? Nothing like this currently exists. How long do you think it would take the county to budget and create something like that when currently NOTHING LIKE THAT is on their TO DO list or even running wild in their imaginations?
DP. And they still need space for these programs.
Even if they just make Arlington Tech into a high quality math/science/engineering/CS program, they would clearly get lots of students to do it. People fall all over themselves to get into HB. Why would this be any different if marketed well. I'm telling you they've already started doing this. They have middle school kids thinking Arlington Tech is the dream. Over subscribed and lottery in place. A new building and expanded student body with more class offerings as a result means they will have plenty of takers and Chad and Ethan can be assured of their access to the lacrosse fields.
People are desperate to get to Hb because it’s a capped student population. Arlington Tech is just a program within the huge Career Center campus, so you have tech students and hair styling and culinary students and it’s almost as hectic as the full size high schools, just without fields and pool.
The huge campus? Have you been there?
Career Center is now at 900. The new building will allow for 1550 students. That is a lot smaller than any of the other high schools and like HB, the student population will be capped. As it is now. No chance of overcrowding. People will go for it. Lots of people do not care about fields or a pool. Enough people to fill the school and then some.
Small population is not critical to the “program” like HB claims, it will be enlarged in near future.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We pulled my kids out of APS after elementary. The schools are overcrowded currently; all high schools are over 100% capacity. Now with MMH (or what ever the new name is since missing middle was a total misnomer) I can’t wait to move out of Arlington. Just a few more years and I’m out.
As a fact check, no. W-L is actually currently well under based on 600-seat addition. Yorktown is exactly 1 student over capacity with its senior class being the biggest class so will likely be under next year. Wakefield is over by about 130.
800+ seats are being added at the Career Center site. No, it's not the 4th high school many people wanted. There are also a lot of students in this community who are not looking for How We Do High School USA. Look at the popularity of H-B. With the early middle school set, APS has already started really talking up Arlington Tech and a lot of kids are interested.
Based on APS projections this really will meet needs. In fact, enrollment is projected to decline over the next 10 years. Of course, APS is stupid and the planners are stupid and they are all liars and no one believes anything they say. Or so it goes on DCUM and in heated PTA meetings across Arlington.
How awkward if they are correct though.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: School board has been clear that there's no land to build another comprehensive high school.
That's what eminent domain is for. Just take over some lobbyists' office spaces, even if lobbying is protected by the first amendment.
Taking over an office building isn't going to give you near enough space for a 4th comprehensive high school. that's the whole problem. You need space for all the fields and pools or whatever, or the kids at that school are just going to have to share the facilities at some preexisting high schools that already has too many kids fighting for use of the facilities. That's why the discussion of doing the 4th comprehensive 10 (or whatever) years ago was key and the county just couldn't find a way to make it happen. If they couldn't do it then, they won't do it now, or 5 years from now, or 10 -- because there is just not the land to do it. I think washington country club should donate their golf course -- that might be enough space (though it's basically right in between WL and Yorktown so...). Or maybe we could turn a park into a high school.
Meanwhile, if you don't do something drastic like that, it's flex scheduling or virtual schools on the table and I don't think anyone really wants that. Or just keep crowding kids into WL? County just keeps sitting on its hands thinking bonus density being used by developers is a good idea and teachers keep quitting so ... not really sure what's going to happen here.
Let this go. It's not happening and there is a compelling case for why it's not necessary and worth the enormous expense. Siphon off kids who will self-select into high-quality specialty programs...STEM, performing arts, other. There will be plenty of fields left for the kids who prioritize this kind of experience.
WHAT high quality specialty programs are you talking about, besides Arlington Tech? Nothing like this currently exists. How long do you think it would take the county to budget and create something like that when currently NOTHING LIKE THAT is on their TO DO list or even running wild in their imaginations?
DP. And they still need space for these programs.
Even if they just make Arlington Tech into a high quality math/science/engineering/CS program, they would clearly get lots of students to do it. People fall all over themselves to get into HB. Why would this be any different if marketed well. I'm telling you they've already started doing this. They have middle school kids thinking Arlington Tech is the dream. Over subscribed and lottery in place. A new building and expanded student body with more class offerings as a result means they will have plenty of takers and Chad and Ethan can be assured of their access to the lacrosse fields.
People are desperate to get to Hb because it’s a capped student population. Arlington Tech is just a program within the huge Career Center campus, so you have tech students and hair styling and culinary students and it’s almost as hectic as the full size high schools, just without fields and pool.
The huge campus? Have you been there?
Career Center is now at 900. The new building will allow for 1550 students. That is a lot smaller than any of the other high schools and like HB, the student population will be capped. As it is now. No chance of overcrowding. People will go for it. Lots of people do not care about fields or a pool. Enough people to fill the school and then some.
HB has 400 high school students. That is smaller than any elementary school. .
I don't think it's the small size that attracts people. I personally think it's smaller than what would be ideal. 100 kids in a class is too small for high school socially. It's the controlled size and the self-selection you get with a lottery. It's why ATS appeals to people. It's bonkers to suggest Arlington Tech will not draw a lot of kids. It is already doing so.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: School board has been clear that there's no land to build another comprehensive high school.
That's what eminent domain is for. Just take over some lobbyists' office spaces, even if lobbying is protected by the first amendment.
Taking over an office building isn't going to give you near enough space for a 4th comprehensive high school. that's the whole problem. You need space for all the fields and pools or whatever, or the kids at that school are just going to have to share the facilities at some preexisting high schools that already has too many kids fighting for use of the facilities. That's why the discussion of doing the 4th comprehensive 10 (or whatever) years ago was key and the county just couldn't find a way to make it happen. If they couldn't do it then, they won't do it now, or 5 years from now, or 10 -- because there is just not the land to do it. I think washington country club should donate their golf course -- that might be enough space (though it's basically right in between WL and Yorktown so...). Or maybe we could turn a park into a high school.
Meanwhile, if you don't do something drastic like that, it's flex scheduling or virtual schools on the table and I don't think anyone really wants that. Or just keep crowding kids into WL? County just keeps sitting on its hands thinking bonus density being used by developers is a good idea and teachers keep quitting so ... not really sure what's going to happen here.
Let this go. It's not happening and there is a compelling case for why it's not necessary and worth the enormous expense. Siphon off kids who will self-select into high-quality specialty programs...STEM, performing arts, other. There will be plenty of fields left for the kids who prioritize this kind of experience.
WHAT high quality specialty programs are you talking about, besides Arlington Tech? Nothing like this currently exists. How long do you think it would take the county to budget and create something like that when currently NOTHING LIKE THAT is on their TO DO list or even running wild in their imaginations?
DP. And they still need space for these programs.
Even if they just make Arlington Tech into a high quality math/science/engineering/CS program, they would clearly get lots of students to do it. People fall all over themselves to get into HB. Why would this be any different if marketed well. I'm telling you they've already started doing this. They have middle school kids thinking Arlington Tech is the dream. Over subscribed and lottery in place. A new building and expanded student body with more class offerings as a result means they will have plenty of takers and Chad and Ethan can be assured of their access to the lacrosse fields.
People are desperate to get to Hb because it’s a capped student population. Arlington Tech is just a program within the huge Career Center campus, so you have tech students and hair styling and culinary students and it’s almost as hectic as the full size high schools, just without fields and pool.
The huge campus? Have you been there?
Career Center is now at 900. The new building will allow for 1550 students. That is a lot smaller than any of the other high schools and like HB, the student population will be capped. As it is now. No chance of overcrowding. People will go for it. Lots of people do not care about fields or a pool. Enough people to fill the school and then some.
HB has 400 high school students. That is smaller than any elementary school. .
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: School board has been clear that there's no land to build another comprehensive high school.
That's what eminent domain is for. Just take over some lobbyists' office spaces, even if lobbying is protected by the first amendment.
Taking over an office building isn't going to give you near enough space for a 4th comprehensive high school. that's the whole problem. You need space for all the fields and pools or whatever, or the kids at that school are just going to have to share the facilities at some preexisting high schools that already has too many kids fighting for use of the facilities. That's why the discussion of doing the 4th comprehensive 10 (or whatever) years ago was key and the county just couldn't find a way to make it happen. If they couldn't do it then, they won't do it now, or 5 years from now, or 10 -- because there is just not the land to do it. I think washington country club should donate their golf course -- that might be enough space (though it's basically right in between WL and Yorktown so...). Or maybe we could turn a park into a high school.
Meanwhile, if you don't do something drastic like that, it's flex scheduling or virtual schools on the table and I don't think anyone really wants that. Or just keep crowding kids into WL? County just keeps sitting on its hands thinking bonus density being used by developers is a good idea and teachers keep quitting so ... not really sure what's going to happen here.
Let this go. It's not happening and there is a compelling case for why it's not necessary and worth the enormous expense. Siphon off kids who will self-select into high-quality specialty programs...STEM, performing arts, other. There will be plenty of fields left for the kids who prioritize this kind of experience.
WHAT high quality specialty programs are you talking about, besides Arlington Tech? Nothing like this currently exists. How long do you think it would take the county to budget and create something like that when currently NOTHING LIKE THAT is on their TO DO list or even running wild in their imaginations?
DP. And they still need space for these programs.
Even if they just make Arlington Tech into a high quality math/science/engineering/CS program, they would clearly get lots of students to do it. People fall all over themselves to get into HB. Why would this be any different if marketed well. I'm telling you they've already started doing this. They have middle school kids thinking Arlington Tech is the dream. Over subscribed and lottery in place. A new building and expanded student body with more class offerings as a result means they will have plenty of takers and Chad and Ethan can be assured of their access to the lacrosse fields.
People are desperate to get to Hb because it’s a capped student population. Arlington Tech is just a program within the huge Career Center campus, so you have tech students and hair styling and culinary students and it’s almost as hectic as the full size high schools, just without fields and pool.
The huge campus? Have you been there?
Career Center is now at 900. The new building will allow for 1550 students. That is a lot smaller than any of the other high schools and like HB, the student population will be capped. As it is now. No chance of overcrowding. People will go for it. Lots of people do not care about fields or a pool. Enough people to fill the school and then some.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: School board has been clear that there's no land to build another comprehensive high school.
That's what eminent domain is for. Just take over some lobbyists' office spaces, even if lobbying is protected by the first amendment.
Taking over an office building isn't going to give you near enough space for a 4th comprehensive high school. that's the whole problem. You need space for all the fields and pools or whatever, or the kids at that school are just going to have to share the facilities at some preexisting high schools that already has too many kids fighting for use of the facilities. That's why the discussion of doing the 4th comprehensive 10 (or whatever) years ago was key and the county just couldn't find a way to make it happen. If they couldn't do it then, they won't do it now, or 5 years from now, or 10 -- because there is just not the land to do it. I think washington country club should donate their golf course -- that might be enough space (though it's basically right in between WL and Yorktown so...). Or maybe we could turn a park into a high school.
Meanwhile, if you don't do something drastic like that, it's flex scheduling or virtual schools on the table and I don't think anyone really wants that. Or just keep crowding kids into WL? County just keeps sitting on its hands thinking bonus density being used by developers is a good idea and teachers keep quitting so ... not really sure what's going to happen here.
Let this go. It's not happening and there is a compelling case for why it's not necessary and worth the enormous expense. Siphon off kids who will self-select into high-quality specialty programs...STEM, performing arts, other. There will be plenty of fields left for the kids who prioritize this kind of experience.
WHAT high quality specialty programs are you talking about, besides Arlington Tech? Nothing like this currently exists. How long do you think it would take the county to budget and create something like that when currently NOTHING LIKE THAT is on their TO DO list or even running wild in their imaginations?
DP. And they still need space for these programs.
Even if they just make Arlington Tech into a high quality math/science/engineering/CS program, they would clearly get lots of students to do it. People fall all over themselves to get into HB. Why would this be any different if marketed well. I'm telling you they've already started doing this. They have middle school kids thinking Arlington Tech is the dream. Over subscribed and lottery in place. A new building and expanded student body with more class offerings as a result means they will have plenty of takers and Chad and Ethan can be assured of their access to the lacrosse fields.
People are desperate to get to Hb because it’s a capped student population. Arlington Tech is just a program within the huge Career Center campus, so you have tech students and hair styling and culinary students and it’s almost as hectic as the full size high schools, just without fields and pool.
The huge campus? Have you been there?
Career Center is now at 900. The new building will allow for 1550 students. That is a lot smaller than any of the other high schools and like HB, the student population will be capped. As it is now. No chance of overcrowding. People will go for it. Lots of people do not care about fields or a pool. Enough people to fill the school and then some.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kids are older and almost out of APS. But I would not chose to stay in Arlington now if my kids were young. MM is just one of many problems here. I am feeling grouchy today, but that's the truth.
Arlington has no space to build a 4th HS and no money to do additions. Plus the planning process here takes decades. Not going to happen in the 8 years before your kid gets there.
So which district would you move into? I will find you an FCPS parent whose unhappy and will tell you about it.
Private
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: School board has been clear that there's no land to build another comprehensive high school.
That's what eminent domain is for. Just take over some lobbyists' office spaces, even if lobbying is protected by the first amendment.
Taking over an office building isn't going to give you near enough space for a 4th comprehensive high school. that's the whole problem. You need space for all the fields and pools or whatever, or the kids at that school are just going to have to share the facilities at some preexisting high schools that already has too many kids fighting for use of the facilities. That's why the discussion of doing the 4th comprehensive 10 (or whatever) years ago was key and the county just couldn't find a way to make it happen. If they couldn't do it then, they won't do it now, or 5 years from now, or 10 -- because there is just not the land to do it. I think washington country club should donate their golf course -- that might be enough space (though it's basically right in between WL and Yorktown so...). Or maybe we could turn a park into a high school.
Meanwhile, if you don't do something drastic like that, it's flex scheduling or virtual schools on the table and I don't think anyone really wants that. Or just keep crowding kids into WL? County just keeps sitting on its hands thinking bonus density being used by developers is a good idea and teachers keep quitting so ... not really sure what's going to happen here.
Let this go. It's not happening and there is a compelling case for why it's not necessary and worth the enormous expense. Siphon off kids who will self-select into high-quality specialty programs...STEM, performing arts, other. There will be plenty of fields left for the kids who prioritize this kind of experience.
WHAT high quality specialty programs are you talking about, besides Arlington Tech? Nothing like this currently exists. How long do you think it would take the county to budget and create something like that when currently NOTHING LIKE THAT is on their TO DO list or even running wild in their imaginations?
DP. And they still need space for these programs.
Even if they just make Arlington Tech into a high quality math/science/engineering/CS program, they would clearly get lots of students to do it. People fall all over themselves to get into HB. Why would this be any different if marketed well. I'm telling you they've already started doing this. They have middle school kids thinking Arlington Tech is the dream. Over subscribed and lottery in place. A new building and expanded student body with more class offerings as a result means they will have plenty of takers and Chad and Ethan can be assured of their access to the lacrosse fields.
People are desperate to get to Hb because it’s a capped student population. Arlington Tech is just a program within the huge Career Center campus, so you have tech students and hair styling and culinary students and it’s almost as hectic as the full size high schools, just without fields and pool.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: School board has been clear that there's no land to build another comprehensive high school.
That's what eminent domain is for. Just take over some lobbyists' office spaces, even if lobbying is protected by the first amendment.
Taking over an office building isn't going to give you near enough space for a 4th comprehensive high school. that's the whole problem. You need space for all the fields and pools or whatever, or the kids at that school are just going to have to share the facilities at some preexisting high schools that already has too many kids fighting for use of the facilities. That's why the discussion of doing the 4th comprehensive 10 (or whatever) years ago was key and the county just couldn't find a way to make it happen. If they couldn't do it then, they won't do it now, or 5 years from now, or 10 -- because there is just not the land to do it. I think washington country club should donate their golf course -- that might be enough space (though it's basically right in between WL and Yorktown so...). Or maybe we could turn a park into a high school.
Meanwhile, if you don't do something drastic like that, it's flex scheduling or virtual schools on the table and I don't think anyone really wants that. Or just keep crowding kids into WL? County just keeps sitting on its hands thinking bonus density being used by developers is a good idea and teachers keep quitting so ... not really sure what's going to happen here.
Let this go. It's not happening and there is a compelling case for why it's not necessary and worth the enormous expense. Siphon off kids who will self-select into high-quality specialty programs...STEM, performing arts, other. There will be plenty of fields left for the kids who prioritize this kind of experience.
WHAT high quality specialty programs are you talking about, besides Arlington Tech? Nothing like this currently exists. How long do you think it would take the county to budget and create something like that when currently NOTHING LIKE THAT is on their TO DO list or even running wild in their imaginations?
DP. And they still need space for these programs.
Even if they just make Arlington Tech into a high quality math/science/engineering/CS program, they would clearly get lots of students to do it. People fall all over themselves to get into HB. Why would this be any different if marketed well. I'm telling you they've already started doing this. They have middle school kids thinking Arlington Tech is the dream. Over subscribed and lottery in place. A new building and expanded student body with more class offerings as a result means they will have plenty of takers and Chad and Ethan can be assured of their access to the lacrosse fields.
Anonymous wrote:I don't think any middle schoolers are actually named Chad not sure you really know what you're talking about