Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the same reason people are annoyed when other women lose weight, go vegan, run a marathon, or any other number of things that take some effort and planning over a sustained period of time. It’s something most people CAN do, and most people choose not to.

A lot people are insecure about their choices and react defensively when other people make different choices because they don’t understand the difference between people living out their own adventure around them and people living AT them. They assume someone having a positive experience with their own different choice somehow negates or minimizes their own positive experience with their choice. Similar to marathon running or your new diet, if you don’t make it your whole personality, it shouldn’t be an issue.

OP, this person, and her attitude, is your answer. Unmedicated birth is great if it's what you want and things turn out well for you. Congrats.

Believing that unmedicated birth is an achievement on par with training for a marathon, an accomplishment that lazy people envy but did not deserve, or even an outcome that was within your control is both stupid and exhausting to listen to. These are the same people who will tell women with pelvic floor injuries that they just didn't visualize effectively enough. Idiots, and loud ones, and they give regular women a terrible name and make discussing childbirth a minefield instead of an exchange of experiences or an opportunity for support.

The marathon is a great example though.

Running and training for a marathon is terrible for your health. Most people who do it have m we natal health issues like obsessive compulsiveness, anxiety, depression and need it to manage their own type of “crazy”, but then act like it’s some sort of accomplishment.

He if you need to run to manage your mental health /avoid time with family go for it … but it’s not good or gear or even healthy. Enjoy your hip/knee surgery.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, "did you medicate during childbirth" for women is like "how much can you bench press?" for men. It's a look-how-much-stronger-I-am-than-you move, when the main point is to have a healthy baby. The baby has to get out one way or another, and all women and their doctors must determine the way that offers the lowest level of complicating factors for that particular birth. It shouldn't be a competition to see who can handle the most pain. That's just dumb.

But not everyone has that attitude. I didn’t have unmedicated birth to prove anything to anyone, and I don’t talk about it or ask. I did it because it made the most sense to me. I’m glad it worked out for me. But I don’t think of myself as superior to anyone else because of it.

Anonymous wrote:Well, "did you medicate during childbirth" for women is like "how much can you bench press?" for men. It's a look-how-much-stronger-I-am-than-you move, when the main point is to have a healthy baby. The baby has to get out one way or another, and all women and their doctors must determine the way that offers the lowest level of complicating factors for that particular birth. It shouldn't be a competition to see who can handle the most pain. That's just dumb.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the same reason people are annoyed when other women lose weight, go vegan, run a marathon, or any other number of things that take some effort and planning over a sustained period of time. It’s something most people CAN do, and most people choose not to.

A lot people are insecure about their choices and react defensively when other people make different choices because they don’t understand the difference between people living out their own adventure around them and people living AT them. They assume someone having a positive experience with their own different choice somehow negates or minimizes their own positive experience with their choice. Similar to marathon running or your new diet, if you don’t make it your whole personality, it shouldn’t be an issue.

Lol you think an unmedicated birth is some accomplishment comparable to a marathon.

For many people it’s a choice that they spend months doing squats and yoga, practicing meditation, and preparing for. Just like a marathon - most people can do it if they choose to spend their time and energy that way. And just like a marathon, not everyone who starts finishes.
But that’s not the point.

The point is why do you care how I spend my time? Why does it make you angry if I chose to give birth differently than you did?

If everyone crosses the finish line then it's not an accomplishment one way or the other.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the same reason people are annoyed when other women lose weight, go vegan, run a marathon, or any other number of things that take some effort and planning over a sustained period of time. It’s something most people CAN do, and most people choose not to.

A lot people are insecure about their choices and react defensively when other people make different choices because they don’t understand the difference between people living out their own adventure around them and people living AT them. They assume someone having a positive experience with their own different choice somehow negates or minimizes their own positive experience with their choice. Similar to marathon running or your new diet, if you don’t make it your whole personality, it shouldn’t be an issue.

Lol you think an unmedicated birth is some accomplishment comparable to a marathon.

For many people it’s a choice that they spend months doing squats and yoga, practicing meditation, and preparing for. Just like a marathon - most people can do it if they choose to spend their time and energy that way. And just like a marathon, not everyone who starts finishes.
But that’s not the point.

The point is why do you care how I spend my time? Why does it make you angry if I chose to give birth differently than you did?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the same reason people are annoyed when other women lose weight, go vegan, run a marathon, or any other number of things that take some effort and planning over a sustained period of time. It’s something most people CAN do, and most people choose not to.

A lot people are insecure about their choices and react defensively when other people make different choices because they don’t understand the difference between people living out their own adventure around them and people living AT them. They assume someone having a positive experience with their own different choice somehow negates or minimizes their own positive experience with their choice. Similar to marathon running or your new diet, if you don’t make it your whole personality, it shouldn’t be an issue.

Lol you think an unmedicated birth is some accomplishment comparable to a marathon.

For many people it’s a choice that they spend months doing squats and yoga, practicing meditation, and preparing for. Just like a marathon - most people can do it if they choose to spend their time and energy that way. And just like a marathon, not everyone who starts finishes.
But that’s not the point.

The point is why do you care how I spend my time? Why does it make you angry if I chose to give birth differently than you did?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the same reason people are annoyed when other women lose weight, go vegan, run a marathon, or any other number of things that take some effort and planning over a sustained period of time. It’s something most people CAN do, and most people choose not to.

A lot people are insecure about their choices and react defensively when other people make different choices because they don’t understand the difference between people living out their own adventure around them and people living AT them. They assume someone having a positive experience with their own different choice somehow negates or minimizes their own positive experience with their choice. Similar to marathon running or your new diet, if you don’t make it your whole personality, it shouldn’t be an issue.

Lol you think an unmedicated birth is some accomplishment comparable to a marathon.

For many people it’s a choice that they spend months doing squats and yoga, practicing meditation, and preparing for. Just like a marathon - most people can do it if they choose to spend their time and energy that way. And just like a marathon, not everyone who starts finishes.
But that’s not the point.

The point is why do you care how I spend my time? Why does it make you angry if I chose to give birth differently than you did?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the same reason people are annoyed when other women lose weight, go vegan, run a marathon, or any other number of things that take some effort and planning over a sustained period of time. It’s something most people CAN do, and most people choose not to.

A lot people are insecure about their choices and react defensively when other people make different choices because they don’t understand the difference between people living out their own adventure around them and people living AT them. They assume someone having a positive experience with their own different choice somehow negates or minimizes their own positive experience with their choice. Similar to marathon running or your new diet, if you don’t make it your whole personality, it shouldn’t be an issue.

Lol you think an unmedicated birth is some accomplishment comparable to a marathon.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the same reason people are annoyed when other women lose weight, go vegan, run a marathon, or any other number of things that take some effort and planning over a sustained period of time. It’s something most people CAN do, and most people choose not to.

A lot people are insecure about their choices and react defensively when other people make different choices because they don’t understand the difference between people living out their own adventure around them and people living AT them. They assume someone having a positive experience with their own different choice somehow negates or minimizes their own positive experience with their choice. Similar to marathon running or your new diet, if you don’t make it your whole personality, it shouldn’t be an issue.

Lol you think an unmedicated birth is some accomplishment comparable to a marathon.

It is.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the same reason people are annoyed when other women lose weight, go vegan, run a marathon, or any other number of things that take some effort and planning over a sustained period of time. It’s something most people CAN do, and most people choose not to.

A lot people are insecure about their choices and react defensively when other people make different choices because they don’t understand the difference between people living out their own adventure around them and people living AT them. They assume someone having a positive experience with their own different choice somehow negates or minimizes their own positive experience with their choice. Similar to marathon running or your new diet, if you don’t make it your whole personality, it shouldn’t be an issue.

Lol you think an unmedicated birth is some accomplishment comparable to a marathon.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the same reason people are annoyed when other women lose weight, go vegan, run a marathon, or any other number of things that take some effort and planning over a sustained period of time. It’s something most people CAN do, and most people choose not to.

A lot people are insecure about their choices and react defensively when other people make different choices because they don’t understand the difference between people living out their own adventure around them and people living AT them. They assume someone having a positive experience with their own different choice somehow negates or minimizes their own positive experience with their choice. Similar to marathon running or your new diet, if you don’t make it your whole personality, it shouldn’t be an issue.

OP, this person, and her attitude, is your answer. Unmedicated birth is great if it's what you want and things turn out well for you. Congrats.

Believing that unmedicated birth is an achievement on par with training for a marathon, an accomplishment that lazy people envy but did not deserve, or even an outcome that was within your control is both stupid and exhausting to listen to. These are the same people who will tell women with pelvic floor injuries that they just didn't visualize effectively enough. Idiots, and loud ones, and they give regular women a terrible name and make discussing childbirth a minefield instead of an exchange of experiences or an opportunity for support.

Anonymous wrote:For the same reason people are annoyed when other women lose weight, go vegan, run a marathon, or any other number of things that take some effort and planning over a sustained period of time. It’s something most people CAN do, and most people choose not to.

A lot people are insecure about their choices and react defensively when other people make different choices because they don’t understand the difference between people living out their own adventure around them and people living AT them. They assume someone having a positive experience with their own different choice somehow negates or minimizes their own positive experience with their choice. Similar to marathon running or your new diet, if you don’t make it your whole personality, it shouldn’t be an issue.

Anonymous wrote:Or birth that is not augmented medically? It’s like there are those who are offended that women would like to have as few interventions as possible and see this approach as self-righteous or naively idealistic.

Anonymous wrote:Because some of us would be dead or have dead babies if we hadn't had medical intervention. We can't really imagine what it would be like to not have medical intervention. It's really hard for me to imagine a birth that wasn't an awful experience. If your experience was different, consider yourself very lucky!