Anonymous
03/13/2023 22:09
Subject: Re:Rolling gun battle in Capitol Hill tonight.
There are more posts on this thread claiming Charles Allen cannot possibly be held responsible for this or for any criminality on the Hill and that actually holding him accountable for public safety on the Hill is somehow akin to believing in Batman, than posts just randomly calling him out.
Not one person has managed to explain how CA's clearly stated positions on criminal justice reform help DC, or Ward 6 specifically, deal with violent crime, including a horrible double murder that just occurred outside a popular restaurant, along a residential corridor in the middle of Ward 6. Instead it's just complaining about how all criticism of CA is unfair unless it is accompanied by an explanation that Mayor Bowser and the chief of police are MORE to blame.
The reason Charles Allen has been repeatedly invoked on this thread is that this crime occurred in ward and he has been vocal in the past about measure like reducing the number of cops or reducing sentences for violent crimes. If that bothers you as a CA supporter (or, as I suspect, a member of his staff posting on this thread) then maybe politics isn't right for you. You can't just stake out policy positions and then never expect people to hold you accountable for them.
Not one person has managed to explain how CA's clearly stated positions on criminal justice reform help DC, or Ward 6 specifically, deal with violent crime, including a horrible double murder that just occurred outside a popular restaurant, along a residential corridor in the middle of Ward 6. Instead it's just complaining about how all criticism of CA is unfair unless it is accompanied by an explanation that Mayor Bowser and the chief of police are MORE to blame.
The reason Charles Allen has been repeatedly invoked on this thread is that this crime occurred in ward and he has been vocal in the past about measure like reducing the number of cops or reducing sentences for violent crimes. If that bothers you as a CA supporter (or, as I suspect, a member of his staff posting on this thread) then maybe politics isn't right for you. You can't just stake out policy positions and then never expect people to hold you accountable for them.
Anonymous
03/13/2023 22:07
Subject: Rolling gun battle in Capitol Hill tonight.
I’m one of the posters who thinks he ranges from personality-less with no oratory gifts to downright harmful and a demagogue. He’s no Batman, maybe a Joker.
Hate to break it to you not at all one or even of of just a few posters here. People don’t hate him or obsess, but have huge contempt for his incompetence and active harm to the QoL and lack of empathy for dead teens and others.
You don’t come back from contempt.
Hate to break it to you not at all one or even of of just a few posters here. People don’t hate him or obsess, but have huge contempt for his incompetence and active harm to the QoL and lack of empathy for dead teens and others.
You don’t come back from contempt.
Anonymous
03/13/2023 22:06
Subject: Re:Rolling gun battle in Capitol Hill tonight.
Anonymous wrote:I am not the poster who keeps calling for Allen to resign and wants to pin everything on him.
BUT I do not understand the people saying "what's he supposed to do?" He has vocally advocated for reductions in the very MDP investigating this horrible event, reduced sentencing for many of the very crimes people in Ward 6 are upset about, and argued in favor of unproven alternatives to more policing and stiffer penalties as ways to curb violence. You can't have it both ways. He's been vocal FOR YEARS on crime issues, pretty much all in the same direction, and then when we see awful crime on the Hill, you want to say "well what could he possibly have done, he's just a council member, blame the mayor."
Nope. If CA wants to make himself a major policymaker on criminal justice issues in DC when it allows him to cater to certain activist groups and placate certain constituents, he doesn't then get to pretend that he has no power at all over the issue when other constituents who are being directly impacted by violent crime call for him to take action. He also doesn't get to blame the mayor and the police chief for crimes in his ward without explaining exactly how they are to blame.
Otherwise it's just buck passing. Personally, I dislike Bowser but I think one of the primary causes of the current crime wave was prolonged school closures that left too many of our young people on their own for too long, leading to alarming criminality among very young people in the city. At least Bowser seemed invested in reopening schools sooner. Just as a for instance.
Show me.
Anonymous
03/13/2023 22:04
Subject: Re:Rolling gun battle in Capitol Hill tonight.
Anonymous wrote:Is this thread mostly just one person weirdly obsessed with one city council member?
Yes. Seems like someone doesn’t like Charles Allen and is obsessed.
Anonymous
03/13/2023 22:03
Subject: Re:Rolling gun battle in Capitol Hill tonight.
I blame the NRA.
Anonymous
03/13/2023 22:01
Subject: Re:Rolling gun battle in Capitol Hill tonight.
I am not the poster who keeps calling for Allen to resign and wants to pin everything on him.
BUT I do not understand the people saying "what's he supposed to do?" He has vocally advocated for reductions in the very MDP investigating this horrible event, reduced sentencing for many of the very crimes people in Ward 6 are upset about, and argued in favor of unproven alternatives to more policing and stiffer penalties as ways to curb violence. You can't have it both ways. He's been vocal FOR YEARS on crime issues, pretty much all in the same direction, and then when we see awful crime on the Hill, you want to say "well what could he possibly have done, he's just a council member, blame the mayor."
Nope. If CA wants to make himself a major policymaker on criminal justice issues in DC when it allows him to cater to certain activist groups and placate certain constituents, he doesn't then get to pretend that he has no power at all over the issue when other constituents who are being directly impacted by violent crime call for him to take action. He also doesn't get to blame the mayor and the police chief for crimes in his ward without explaining exactly how they are to blame.
Otherwise it's just buck passing. Personally, I dislike Bowser but I think one of the primary causes of the current crime wave was prolonged school closures that left too many of our young people on their own for too long, leading to alarming criminality among very young people in the city. At least Bowser seemed invested in reopening schools sooner. Just as a for instance.
BUT I do not understand the people saying "what's he supposed to do?" He has vocally advocated for reductions in the very MDP investigating this horrible event, reduced sentencing for many of the very crimes people in Ward 6 are upset about, and argued in favor of unproven alternatives to more policing and stiffer penalties as ways to curb violence. You can't have it both ways. He's been vocal FOR YEARS on crime issues, pretty much all in the same direction, and then when we see awful crime on the Hill, you want to say "well what could he possibly have done, he's just a council member, blame the mayor."
Nope. If CA wants to make himself a major policymaker on criminal justice issues in DC when it allows him to cater to certain activist groups and placate certain constituents, he doesn't then get to pretend that he has no power at all over the issue when other constituents who are being directly impacted by violent crime call for him to take action. He also doesn't get to blame the mayor and the police chief for crimes in his ward without explaining exactly how they are to blame.
Otherwise it's just buck passing. Personally, I dislike Bowser but I think one of the primary causes of the current crime wave was prolonged school closures that left too many of our young people on their own for too long, leading to alarming criminality among very young people in the city. At least Bowser seemed invested in reopening schools sooner. Just as a for instance.
Anonymous
03/13/2023 21:55
Subject: Re:Rolling gun battle in Capitol Hill tonight.
We forgot to mention, Charles Allen, council member, is BATMAN! But instead of going out, fighting city crimes, has been hanging out with his family and addressing issues and conversing with police in his role as council member. Geez, what a slob, why won't he be BATMAN?
Anonymous
03/13/2023 21:47
Subject: Re:Rolling gun battle in Capitol Hill tonight.
Anonymous wrote:Is this thread mostly just one person weirdly obsessed with one city council member?
Oooh, has Fox news mentioned Charles Allen by name?
Anonymous
03/13/2023 21:46
Subject: Re:Rolling gun battle in Capitol Hill tonight.
Anonymous wrote:Is this thread mostly just one person weirdly obsessed with one city council member?
That's what I think
Anonymous
03/13/2023 21:45
Subject: Re:Rolling gun battle in Capitol Hill tonight.
Is this thread mostly just one person weirdly obsessed with one city council member?
Anonymous
03/13/2023 21:41
Subject: Rolling gun battle in Capitol Hill tonight.
Anonymous wrote:Does the Mayor and Chief of Police bear any responsibility for this crime spree, or is it all Charles Allen’s fault?
It's all his fault
Anonymous
03/13/2023 21:38
Subject: Re:Rolling gun battle in Capitol Hill tonight.
Anonymous wrote:What is Charles Allen supposed to do?
Resign
Anonymous
03/13/2023 21:37
Subject: Rolling gun battle in Capitol Hill tonight.
Does the Mayor and Chief of Police bear any responsibility for this crime spree, or is it all Charles Allen’s fault?
Anonymous
03/13/2023 21:36
Subject: Re:Rolling gun battle in Capitol Hill tonight.
What is Charles Allen supposed to do?
Anonymous
03/13/2023 21:34
Subject: Re:Rolling gun battle in Capitol Hill tonight.
Anonymous wrote:This is horrifying. That block of 11th is half residential and half commercial, with a popular restaurant/bar (Paraiso) and a dance studio that services like 3-8 year olds. I'm sure the dance studio didn't have classes at the time, but 9pm on a Sunday night means there may still have been people in the bar and of course people in their homes. That's terrifying.
I swear if Charles Allen doesn't actually say/do something indicating he cares AT ALL about this kind of activity and how it impacts his constituents, I'm going to lose it. How does he get away with so much complacency? Why didn't anyone run against him? Sometimes this neighborhood feels like a bunch of well-meaning white people saying "This is fine" while there are literally black people just being murdered around them. Can we not do something about this or are we supposed to just accept it as normal?
So fed up.
This is always what I notice when certain people want to downplay crime. The victims are usually minorities and those excusing it are UMC white people. Doesn’t match their BLM yard signs.