Anonymous
03/16/2023 20:00
Subject: Re:Can students pay tuition to attend APS schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It there's an entire school worth of students waiting / hoping to get into ATS, why doesn't APS consider opening another ATS option school?
I’d venture to say that they’re worried about tanking the other schools. When you take the top kids out of every school, it makes it obvious that the rest aren’t doing well. And scores would drop.
They aren’t necessarily the top kids at each school. It’s not a magnet school that kids test into. And there isn’t an allocated number of spots that each neighborhood can send to ATS (which is how HB Woodlawn runs its lottery).
Anonymous
03/16/2023 19:24
Subject: Re:Can students pay tuition to attend APS schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It there's an entire school worth of students waiting / hoping to get into ATS, why doesn't APS consider opening another ATS option school?
I’d venture to say that they’re worried about tanking the other schools. When you take the top kids out of every school, it makes it obvious that the rest aren’t doing well. And scores would drop.
There’s no place to put one
Anonymous
03/16/2023 19:13
Subject: Re:Can students pay tuition to attend APS schools?
Anonymous wrote:It there's an entire school worth of students waiting / hoping to get into ATS, why doesn't APS consider opening another ATS option school?
I’d venture to say that they’re worried about tanking the other schools. When you take the top kids out of every school, it makes it obvious that the rest aren’t doing well. And scores would drop.
Anonymous
03/16/2023 16:47
Subject: Can students pay tuition to attend APS schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind there are plenty of lottery elementary schools which have richer demographics and yet perform worse than ATS. The lottery can't explain away everything unless every lottery school is on-par with ATS, which isn't the case.
You can’t enroll your kid at ATS after K, so few very poor, transient families.
That isn’t true. You can enroll any time you get a spot. We did in upper elementary
Which is difficult.
Sure, but it’s misinformation to say you can’t enroll after K
Anonymous
03/16/2023 16:42
Subject: Can students pay tuition to attend APS schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind there are plenty of lottery elementary schools which have richer demographics and yet perform worse than ATS. The lottery can't explain away everything unless every lottery school is on-par with ATS, which isn't the case.
You can’t enroll your kid at ATS after K, so few very poor, transient families.
That isn’t true. You can enroll any time you get a spot. We did in upper elementary
Which is difficult.
Anonymous
03/16/2023 16:41
Subject: Re:Can students pay tuition to attend APS schools?
Anonymous wrote:It there's an entire school worth of students waiting / hoping to get into ATS, why doesn't APS consider opening another ATS option school?
Where would they put it?
Anonymous
03/16/2023 16:40
Subject: Can students pay tuition to attend APS schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind there are plenty of lottery elementary schools which have richer demographics and yet perform worse than ATS. The lottery can't explain away everything unless every lottery school is on-par with ATS, which isn't the case.
You can’t enroll your kid at ATS after K, so few very poor, transient families.
That isn’t true. You can enroll any time you get a spot. We did in upper elementary
Anonymous
03/16/2023 15:13
Subject: Can students pay tuition to attend APS schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why on earth would you want to?
You can in Falls Church City but I want to say it was $17k when we looked into it.
You pick the school?
Have you looked at FCC? There’s only one school for each level. No you don’t get to pick.
Well, they want to go to a better school than FCPS, so why would they look at Falls Church City?
You do realize FCPS and FCC are completely different school systems. FCC is better than all 3 of the neighboring systems.
Yes I do and no it isn’t. Much like a private school, it’s successful because it’s small, rich and exclusive to families who have the means to make it successful, not because the schools are great.
I generally agree but did you know the #1 public elementary school in all of Virginia is Arlington Traditional, with a 30 percent FARMS rate? It’s closing the achievement gap and it’s a lottery school. So presumably all parents have the wherewithal to apply for the lottery, but that’s it. It’s better than the “rich” schools in North Arlington.
I have no idea what they are doing but I wish schools would try and duplicate it.
yes, this is fantastic. It’s a school that’s succeeding because it’s a great school, not “succeeding” because lots of rich connected kids who’ll get into top universities regardless of HS because their family connections go there.
Anonymous
03/16/2023 13:09
Subject: Can students pay tuition to attend APS schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind there are plenty of lottery elementary schools which have richer demographics and yet perform worse than ATS. The lottery can't explain away everything unless every lottery school is on-par with ATS, which isn't the case.
You can’t enroll your kid at ATS after K, so few very poor, transient families.
Again, this is true of a lot of schools that are less highly ranked than ATS. It still serves a broad spectrum of the county’s students, and it has spots specifically for children coming from the low-income prek program.
Anonymous
03/16/2023 13:07
Subject: Can students pay tuition to attend APS schools?
Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind there are plenty of lottery elementary schools which have richer demographics and yet perform worse than ATS. The lottery can't explain away everything unless every lottery school is on-par with ATS, which isn't the case.
You can’t enroll your kid at ATS after K, so few very poor, transient families.
Anonymous
03/16/2023 13:06
Subject: Can students pay tuition to attend APS schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why on earth would you want to?
You can in Falls Church City but I want to say it was $17k when we looked into it.
You pick the school?
Have you looked at FCC? There’s only one school for each level. No you don’t get to pick.
Well, they want to go to a better school than FCPS, so why would they look at Falls Church City?
You do realize FCPS and FCC are completely different school systems. FCC is better than all 3 of the neighboring systems.
Yes I do and no it isn’t. Much like a private school, it’s successful because it’s small, rich and exclusive to families who have the means to make it successful, not because the schools are great.
I generally agree but did you know the #1 public elementary school in all of Virginia is Arlington Traditional, with a 30 percent FARMS rate? It’s closing the achievement gap and it’s a lottery school. So presumably all parents have the wherewithal to apply for the lottery, but that’s it. It’s better than the “rich” schools in North Arlington.
I have no idea what they are doing but I wish schools would try and duplicate it.
Keeping out families who don’t have the wherewithal to apply for the lottery.
And families who move around often or arrive after Kindergarten since it’s pretty hard to get a spot after that.
+1
Anonymous
03/16/2023 12:56
Subject: Re:Can students pay tuition to attend APS schools?
For those who may be interested, here is a link to last year’s APS lottery results. It shows # of applications verses # admitted.
https://www.apsva.us/school-options/school-transfer-data-2/pre-k-elementary-options-transfers-application-data-school-year-2022-23/
https://www.apsva.us/school-options/school-transfer-data-2/pre-k-elementary-options-transfers-application-data-school-year-2022-23/
Anonymous
03/16/2023 12:49
Subject: Re:Can students pay tuition to attend APS schools?
It there's an entire school worth of students waiting / hoping to get into ATS, why doesn't APS consider opening another ATS option school?
Anonymous
03/16/2023 12:45
Subject: Can students pay tuition to attend APS schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why on earth would you want to?
You can in Falls Church City but I want to say it was $17k when we looked into it.
You pick the school?
Have you looked at FCC? There’s only one school for each level. No you don’t get to pick.
Well, they want to go to a better school than FCPS, so why would they look at Falls Church City?
You do realize FCPS and FCC are completely different school systems. FCC is better than all 3 of the neighboring systems.
Yes I do and no it isn’t. Much like a private school, it’s successful because it’s small, rich and exclusive to families who have the means to make it successful, not because the schools are great.
I generally agree but did you know the #1 public elementary school in all of Virginia is Arlington Traditional, with a 30 percent FARMS rate? It’s closing the achievement gap and it’s a lottery school. So presumably all parents have the wherewithal to apply for the lottery, but that’s it. It’s better than the “rich” schools in North Arlington.
I have no idea what they are doing but I wish schools would try and duplicate it.
Keeping out families who don’t have the wherewithal to apply for the lottery.
That still doesn’t explain why it would perform better than a “rich” school like the ones people are discussing upthread. The school deserves some credit.
The families may not all be rich, but 100% of them give a d@mn about their child’s education. They can try to replicate it elsewhere, but it may not be as successful. You can’t make people care.
Yep. It’s not about poor vs rich. It’s about parents who care vs ones that don’t. I went to a wealthy school district. Even rich parents who don’t care, never see their kids still make sure their kids have tutors if they aren’t doing well.
Anonymous
03/16/2023 12:43
Subject: Can students pay tuition to attend APS schools?
I’d love to do this too. I want to pay to attend a better school in my county though.