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Anonymous wrote:Wow the proficient in math percentage across the board in MCPS middle school is ABYSMAL.

Can we slow down math and teach necessary every day math and stop pushing algebra to kids who can’t even do long division or know fractions

IMO current MS 7th & 8th Graders got the shaft with pandemic policies. End of ES completely disrupted and then curriculum cut by substantial amounts for virtual year. Last year reintegration at MS wasn't good. They're only really getting back on track this year, so they have lost a lot.

Things would look different if they had simply stuck with a proven test like the PARC. Sure, the pandemic didn't help, but MCAP is just a bad test.

Anonymous wrote:Wow the proficient in math percentage across the board in MCPS middle school is ABYSMAL.

Can we slow down math and teach necessary every day math and stop pushing algebra to kids who can’t even do long division or know fractions

IMO current MS 7th & 8th Graders got the shaft with pandemic policies. End of ES completely disrupted and then curriculum cut by substantial amounts for virtual year. Last year reintegration at MS wasn't good. They're only really getting back on track this year, so they have lost a lot.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be nice if there was a way to just get a list of all MCPS schools rather than having to look up one at a time.

Use this page: https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/SchoolsList/Index?l=15

OK, fine. Here they are

School Total Earned Points
Whitman 83.6
Churchill 82.8
Wootton 80.4
BCC 76.2
Walter Johnson 76
Richard Montgomery 70.4
Poolesville 69.7
Sherwood 68.8
Northwest 68
Clarksburg 66.9
Damascus 66.3
Quince Orchard 65.7
Rockville 65.3
Einstein 63.9
Blair 63.2
Magruder 62.1
Wheaton 61.6
Springbrook 61.6
Blake 61.1
Paint Branch 59.2
Seneca Valley 58.3
Northwood 55.8
Gaithersburg 53
Watkins Mill 52.2
Kennedy 49.2

Pretty close to the reverse of a FARMS rate-sorted list. So neither surprising nor meaningful.

+1 Almost to the exact order of lowest to highest FARMS. I mean, you could've just listed the FARMs rate and not bother looking at MSDE.

I think the FARMS rate is highly correlated with English Language Learners. There are several different metrics that take a hit because of ELLs. When this new rating system came out I was pretty disgusted, because it’s effectively useless the way it is set-up. Pull all data for ELLs into their own category for 4 years after arriving in US. Leave the main categories with only data from kids who speak English, so those comparisons are more meaningful.

But then you would know exactly how many undocumented students are in your schools being funded by MoCo taxpayers instead of their home countries. Dems cannot let you know that.

A) Not all ELLs are undocumented;

B) Every single At a Glance document for every single school in MCPS shows you the number of kids receiving ESOL services;

C) The report card does the same thing.

And no one is so simple to think that they are. But it is undeniable that MCPS has had a large and growing undocumented population for years, and that the population places a tremendous strain on resources. Don't try to negate people's concerns with simplistic arguments.

Anonymous wrote:Could this have anything to do with the way math was taught? Instead of straight math it was a confusing clfk of composing and decomposing, addends and many other tear inducing and hair pulling strategies that didn’t translate to higher math learning?

This is the level of math demanded by the Common Core State Standards. Unfortunately, we have to teach to the standard. I want my students to know that there are multiple strategies to reach an answer but I agree, it gets to be a little too much at times.

As far as MCAP goes, even at the elementary level there are many adults who wouldn't be proficient. I care more about MAP scores than MCAP. MCAP is a colossal waste of time. We have four days of ELA and four days of math testing when we return from spring break. That's eight blocks of time I could be teaching my students the skills I know they need rather than wasting our time assessing them on skills I know they have or don't have because I work with them daily.

Anonymous wrote:Wow the proficient in math percentage across the board in MCPS middle school is ABYSMAL.

Can we slow down math and teach necessary every day math and stop pushing algebra to kids who can’t even do long division or know fractions

My kids found imcps math incredibly slow and boring. They typically scored 20 to 30 points over the 99th percentile on the MAP-M which is a national test but on the MCAP they had an average score. I forgot to mention they also qualified for AIME. The problem is the MCAP is just not a good measuring stick. The state needs to find something better to accurately assess these kids.

Could this have anything to do with the way math was taught? Instead of straight math it was a confusing clfk of composing and decomposing, addends and many other tear inducing and hair pulling strategies that didn’t translate to higher math learning?

Wow the proficient in math percentage across the board in MCPS middle school is ABYSMAL.

Can we slow down math and teach necessary every day math and stop pushing algebra to kids who can’t even do long division or know fractions

RM would be low 60’s without IB

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Anonymous wrote:What is so broken about mcap?

Nothing. MCPS is broken, and the majority of kids are not proficient in Math and Language Arts (even based on MCPS’ own data).

It is easier to say the test is broken than to admit that MCPS is broken and dysfunctional. And that MCPS is clearly failing our kids. The kids who do well, are doing well despite MCPS, not because of it.

That's not true.
You have no idea of what you're talking about

Anonymous wrote:Our middle school (Rosa Parks) got 3 stars // 57.3.

Yikes!

This is in the Sherwood pyramid.

2 of the local elementary schools earned 5 stars while the other 2 earned 4 stars.

We are there too. I'm surprised by the 3 stars. Why do you think it was so low?

Belmont got 5
Sherwood E. 4
Olney 5
Greenwood 4
Brooke Grove 4

and Sherwood HS 4 stars.

Anonymous wrote:What is the difference between FARMS and economically disadvantaged?

I'm really perplexed as to what is going on in math at Silver Creek. Proficiency rates are under 25%!

FARMS rate is the percentage of students receiving free and reduced-price meals.

Anonymous wrote:What is the difference between FARMS and economically disadvantaged?

I'm really perplexed as to what is going on in math at Silver Creek. Proficiency rates are under 25%!

I am really worried about Silver Creek too. We will have a new student there next year.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be nice if there was a way to just get a list of all MCPS schools rather than having to look up one at a time.

Use this page: https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/SchoolsList/Index?l=15

OK, fine. Here they are

School Total Earned Points
Whitman 83.6
Churchill 82.8
Wootton 80.4
BCC 76.2
Walter Johnson 76
Richard Montgomery 70.4
Poolesville 69.7
Sherwood 68.8
Northwest 68
Clarksburg 66.9
Damascus 66.3
Quince Orchard 65.7
Rockville 65.3
Einstein 63.9
Blair 63.2
Magruder 62.1
Wheaton 61.6
Springbrook 61.6
Blake 61.1
Paint Branch 59.2
Seneca Valley 58.3
Northwood 55.8
Gaithersburg 53
Watkins Mill 52.2
Kennedy 49.2

Pretty close to the reverse of a FARMS rate-sorted list. So neither surprising nor meaningful.

+1 Almost to the exact order of lowest to highest FARMS. I mean, you could've just listed the FARMs rate and not bother looking at MSDE.

Yep this is a win for cram schools. AoPs, Russian Math, Kumon, Mathnesum take a bow!

What is a "cram school"?

Comes from South Korea. Called Hagwons there. It is where you get a REAL education (and get ahead and thus look smart and get into honors classes. Rinse and Repeat from K-12.

What is the difference between FARMS and economically disadvantaged?

I'm really perplexed as to what is going on in math at Silver Creek. Proficiency rates are under 25%!

Anonymous wrote:What is so broken about mcap?

They just made up the test, and the only time it's used, almost everyone fails. There is nothing to compare it with. They need to use a control to ensure the results are accurate.