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Anonymous wrote: Kid #1: ate a lot of nuts, peanuts and tahini during pregnancy and breastfeeding (until 15 months) and kid developped allergies to nut, peanuts and sesame.
Kid#2: did not eat nuts, peanuts and sesame during pregnancy and breastfeeding (9 months) and kid developped allergies to nuts, peanuts, sesame and a host of other things I was consuming (egg, soy, dairy, seafood, seeds etc.).
I am SO tired of the blame on parents. We've heard everything and it’s opposite. Instead of focusing on what the moms are or are not doing or eating why don't they study the effects of pharmaceuticals and pollutants on allergies? Because that's where the problem lies, not on what mom is eating and whether larlo got peanuts at 5 months vs. 1 year.

Are you saying YOU ate nuts in pregnancy or your kid ate nuts before one year old?
If the first, you are crazy.

Why would someone eating or eating nuts during pregnancy mean they are crazy?

Right! You're supposed to eat peanuts during pregnancy. You also can just touch babies with peanut powder hands and that's enough of an exposure. The goal is early and often. Peanuts should be a baby's first food.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Kid #1: ate a lot of nuts, peanuts and tahini during pregnancy and breastfeeding (until 15 months) and kid developped allergies to nut, peanuts and sesame.
Kid#2: did not eat nuts, peanuts and sesame during pregnancy and breastfeeding (9 months) and kid developped allergies to nuts, peanuts, sesame and a host of other things I was consuming (egg, soy, dairy, seafood, seeds etc.).
I am SO tired of the blame on parents. We've heard everything and its opposite. Instead of focusing on what the moms are or are not doing or eating why don't they study the effects of pharmaceuticals and pollutants on allergies? Because that's where the problem lies, not on what mom is eating and whether larlo got peanuts at 5 months vs. 1 year.

When did your kids start eating peanuts and nuts?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Kid #1: ate a lot of nuts, peanuts and tahini during pregnancy and breastfeeding (until 15 months) and kid developped allergies to nut, peanuts and sesame.
Kid#2: did not eat nuts, peanuts and sesame during pregnancy and breastfeeding (9 months) and kid developped allergies to nuts, peanuts, sesame and a host of other things I was consuming (egg, soy, dairy, seafood, seeds etc.).
I am SO tired of the blame on parents. We've heard everything and it’s opposite. Instead of focusing on what the moms are or are not doing or eating why don't they study the effects of pharmaceuticals and pollutants on allergies? Because that's where the problem lies, not on what mom is eating and whether larlo got peanuts at 5 months vs. 1 year.

Are you saying YOU ate nuts in pregnancy or your kid ate nuts before one year old?
If the first, you are crazy.

Why would someone eating or eating nuts during pregnancy mean they are crazy?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Kid #1: ate a lot of nuts, peanuts and tahini during pregnancy and breastfeeding (until 15 months) and kid developped allergies to nut, peanuts and sesame.
Kid#2: did not eat nuts, peanuts and sesame during pregnancy and breastfeeding (9 months) and kid developped allergies to nuts, peanuts, sesame and a host of other things I was consuming (egg, soy, dairy, seafood, seeds etc.).
I am SO tired of the blame on parents. We've heard everything and it’s opposite. Instead of focusing on what the moms are or are not doing or eating why don't they study the effects of pharmaceuticals and pollutants on allergies? Because that's where the problem lies, not on what mom is eating and whether larlo got peanuts at 5 months vs. 1 year.

Are you saying YOU ate nuts in pregnancy or your kid ate nuts before one year old?
If the first, you are crazy.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Kid #1: ate a lot of nuts, peanuts and tahini during pregnancy and breastfeeding (until 15 months) and kid developped allergies to nut, peanuts and sesame.
Kid#2: did not eat nuts, peanuts and sesame during pregnancy and breastfeeding (9 months) and kid developped allergies to nuts, peanuts, sesame and a host of other things I was consuming (egg, soy, dairy, seafood, seeds etc.).
I am SO tired of the blame on parents. We've heard everything and it’s opposite. Instead of focusing on what the moms are or are not doing or eating why don't they study the effects of pharmaceuticals and pollutants on allergies? Because that's where the problem lies, not on what mom is eating and whether larlo got peanuts at 5 months vs. 1 year.

Are you saying YOU ate nuts in pregnancy or your kid ate nuts before one year old?
If the first, you are crazy.

Anonymous wrote: Kid #1: ate a lot of nuts, peanuts and tahini during pregnancy and breastfeeding (until 15 months) and kid developped allergies to nut, peanuts and sesame.
Kid#2: did not eat nuts, peanuts and sesame during pregnancy and breastfeeding (9 months) and kid developped allergies to nuts, peanuts, sesame and a host of other things I was consuming (egg, soy, dairy, seafood, seeds etc.).
I am SO tired of the blame on parents. We've heard everything and its opposite. Instead of focusing on what the moms are or are not doing or eating why don't they study the effects of pharmaceuticals and pollutants on allergies? Because that's where the problem lies, not on what mom is eating and whether larlo got peanuts at 5 months vs. 1 year.

Anonymous wrote: Kid #1: ate a lot of nuts, peanuts and tahini during pregnancy and breastfeeding (until 15 months) and kid developped allergies to nut, peanuts and sesame.
Kid#2: did not eat nuts, peanuts and sesame during pregnancy and breastfeeding (9 months) and kid developped allergies to nuts, peanuts, sesame and a host of other things I was consuming (egg, soy, dairy, seafood, seeds etc.).
I am SO tired of the blame on parents. We've heard everything and it’s opposite. Instead of focusing on what the moms are or are not doing or eating why don't they study the effects of pharmaceuticals and pollutants on allergies? Because that's where the problem lies, not on what mom is eating and whether larlo got peanuts at 5 months vs. 1 year.

Anonymous wrote:Around the time DD was born, there was a study out about peanut allergies in different countries, and one of the takeaways from it was that peanut allergies are very, very rare in Israel and they think it might have to do with the extreme popularity of bombas, a puffed snack covered in peanut powder. This was part of what drove the theory that peanut allergies were increasing because people were avoiding exposing their kids to peanuts, preventing them from developing healthy immune response to the allergen.

Now you are encouraged to expose your kid to small amounts of peanuts early (around the time solids are introduced) and kids who are found to have a peanut allergy are generally treated through progressive exposure. It doesn't always get rid of the allergy but it can reduce it's severity a lot, which is a big deal because, as you will learn in the other thread, having a kid who has a severe food allergy to any common food is incredibly stressful and limiting. Even if your kid never loses their peanut allergy, you could get to the point where exposure to small amounts, especially on your hands or just traces in food, would cause a mild reaction, not a deadly one requiring an epi pen.

In any case, we were nervous about introducing our baby to peanuts because we'd heard all these horror stories about allergies. Our pediatrician suggested bombas, which they now sell at Trader Joe's under their house brand, and now it's a favorite snack in our family.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:- 2 kids
- Clean diet during pregnancy, virtually all organic and included nuts
- Fed organic foods until age 5; diet still mostly organic
- Few processed foods
- No screens (at all) until after age 2
- Pets in the house since birth, which is supposed to be protective.
- SAHP who provided lots of outdoor time when they were little, including playing in nature and digging in the dirt.
- Minimal antibiotics or other medications
- Fed peanuts and nuts once it was recommended (age 3).

Both kids have food allergies. One ate nuts and peanuts until age 7, when she had sudden anaphylaxis and almost died. She now has severe anaphylactic allergies to peanuts and tree nuts, as well as suspected celiac (we went gluten free before doing the testing). The other has multiple, less severe food allergies.

Tell me, what did we do wrong? How is this the parents' fault?

And that especially for peanut and tree nut allergies, it is likely better for kids to be exposed young, and for even those kids who experience an allergic reaction to be treated with exposure to peanuts and tree nuts (starting in small controlled doses and building up) rather than in trying to create a peanut free cocoon.

I think it's really important to note that once anaphylactic allergies are identified the "starting in small controlled doses and building up" needs to happen in carefully supervised medical conditions, and that until the treatment, which takes more than a year in a best case scenario with a kid with 1 allergen and no complications, and no waiting list for the first appointment, the kids lives outside of those medical interventions need to continue to be peanut free.

On the other thread, there are a lot of people who seem to taking the fact that OIT exists (which is wonderful) and twisting it around to say that parents who try to protect their kids from exposure are either bad parents because they should have just done the treatment already (even though, the treatment can take years, so young kids can be getting the treatment and also still need to be protected) or that since small exposures are the cure they should let their kid have small exposures on the playground (not how it works). That's a really dangerous way of thinking.

Eh, actually there was a poster on the other thread who was explaining that what OP was asking of her was specifically hard because she was doing OIT with her kid for allergies and asking her to never bring an allergen to the playground would make it hard to follow the OIT recommendations (once you are beyond the phase of only doing controlled exposures with the doctor and start building up tolerance at home through frequent exposure).

I mean, yes, there are people on the other thread who are claiming the OP is to blame for her kid's allergies and those posters are terrible. But the conversation about OIT is more nuanced and since everything is framed within OP's original request, which included never brining any common allergen to the playground (which would be hugely burdensome for many parents, including the parents of kids with allergies), it's all being framed in extreme ways. The issue in the other thread is not that people don't care about the OP's kid, but that the OP is asking other parents to do something that just is not feasible or realistic, and therefore probably isn't the right solution for OP's problem.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:- 2 kids
- Clean diet during pregnancy, virtually all organic and included nuts
- Fed organic foods until age 5; diet still mostly organic
- Few processed foods
- No screens (at all) until after age 2
- Pets in the house since birth, which is supposed to be protective.
- SAHP who provided lots of outdoor time when they were little, including playing in nature and digging in the dirt.
- Minimal antibiotics or other medications
- Fed peanuts and nuts once it was recommended (age 3).

Both kids have food allergies. One ate nuts and peanuts until age 7, when she had sudden anaphylaxis and almost died. She now has severe anaphylactic allergies to peanuts and tree nuts, as well as suspected celiac (we went gluten free before doing the testing). The other has multiple, less severe food allergies.

Tell me, what did we do wrong? How is this the parents' fault?

And that especially for peanut and tree nut allergies, it is likely better for kids to be exposed young, and for even those kids who experience an allergic reaction to be treated with exposure to peanuts and tree nuts (starting in small controlled doses and building up) rather than in trying to create a peanut free cocoon.

I think it's really important to note that once anaphylactic allergies are identified the "starting in small controlled doses and building up" needs to happen in carefully supervised medical conditions, and that until the treatment, which takes more than a year in a best case scenario with a kid with 1 allergen and no complications, and no waiting list for the first appointment, the kids lives outside of those medical interventions need to continue to be peanut free.

On the other thread, there are a lot of people who seem to taking the fact that OIT exists (which is wonderful) and twisting it around to say that parents who try to protect their kids from exposure are either bad parents because they should have just done the treatment already (even though, the treatment can take years, so young kids can be getting the treatment and also still need to be protected) or that since small exposures are the cure they should let their kid have small exposures on the playground (not how it works). That's a really dangerous way of thinking.

Eh, actually there was a poster on the other thread who was explaining that what OP was asking of her was specifically hard because she was doing OIT with her kid for allergies and asking her to never bring an allergen to the playground would make it hard to follow the OIT recommendations (once you are beyond the phase of only doing controlled exposures with the doctor and start building up tolerance at home through frequent exposure).

I mean, yes, there are people on the other thread who are claiming the OP is to blame for her kid's allergies and those posters are terrible. But the conversation about OIT is more nuanced and since everything is framed within OP's original request, which included never brining any common allergen to the playground (which would be hugely burdensome for many parents, including the parents of kids with allergies), it's all being framed in extreme ways. The issue in the other thread is not that people don't care about the OP's kid, but that the OP is asking other parents to do something that just is not feasible or realistic, and therefore probably isn't the right solution for OP's problem.

Anonymous wrote:I think that trying to blame the parents is hurtful and misguided.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:- 2 kids
- Clean diet during pregnancy, virtually all organic and included nuts
- Fed organic foods until age 5; diet still mostly organic
- Few processed foods
- No screens (at all) until after age 2
- Pets in the house since birth, which is supposed to be protective.
- SAHP who provided lots of outdoor time when they were little, including playing in nature and digging in the dirt.
- Minimal antibiotics or other medications
- Fed peanuts and nuts once it was recommended (age 3).

Both kids have food allergies. One ate nuts and peanuts until age 7, when she had sudden anaphylaxis and almost died. She now has severe anaphylactic allergies to peanuts and tree nuts, as well as suspected celiac (we went gluten free before doing the testing). The other has multiple, less severe food allergies.

Tell me, what did we do wrong? How is this the parents' fault?

And that especially for peanut and tree nut allergies, it is likely better for kids to be exposed young, and for even those kids who experience an allergic reaction to be treated with exposure to peanuts and tree nuts (starting in small controlled doses and building up) rather than in trying to create a peanut free cocoon.

I think it's really important to note that once anaphylactic allergies are identified the "starting in small controlled doses and building up" needs to happen in carefully supervised medical conditions, and that until the treatment, which takes more than a year in a best case scenario with a kid with 1 allergen and no complications, and no waiting list for the first appointment, the kids lives outside of those medical interventions need to continue to be peanut free.

On the other thread, there are a lot of people who seem to taking the fact that OIT exists (which is wonderful) and twisting it around to say that parents who try to protect their kids from exposure are either bad parents because they should have just done the treatment already (even though, the treatment can take years, so young kids can be getting the treatment and also still need to be protected) or that since small exposures are the cure they should let their kid have small exposures on the playground (not how it works). That's a really dangerous way of thinking.