If you ED, NYU is an option.

Anonymous wrote:Wisconsin
Bates
Tulane
Hamilton

Wisconsin has gotten VERY competitive. Wisconsin stats this year seem to be approaching what Michigan looked like 6-7 years ago.

University of Miami

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see someone like that getting in to Hamilton/Colby these days when they are rejecting kids with 4.0 GPAs and scores in 1500s unless the big 3 hold that much weight...

It's not the Big 3. It's being able to pay the Big Bucks.

Oh, and being male helps too, on any of these schools.

Being male might help but big bucks will not.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From our Big 3 many of the B students went to UMiami, Tulane, Northeastern, Colgate, Colby.

Not anymore. A solid B student would be lucky to get into CU Boulder these days.

Did things change this year (2023?)
Because they were getting in last year (2022).

How do you even know since decisions aren't all out yet?

NP. This is true. My B student at a big3 with a 33 ACT was rejected from Boulder this year (2023).

Anonymous wrote:I don't see someone like that getting in to Hamilton/Colby these days when they are rejecting kids with 4.0 GPAs and scores in 1500s unless the big 3 hold that much weight...

It's not the Big 3. It's being able to pay the Big Bucks.

Oh, and being male helps too, on any of these schools.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not 2019….

Anonymous wrote:Wisconsin
Bates
Tulane
Hamilton

A straight-up B average Big 3 student who is full pay isn't getting into any of those schools without some extraordinary hook. Hamilton took 8% of their applicants last admission cycle. Tulane is sufficiently competitive that we thought it was out of reach for our DC who had meaningfully better stats (and did get into Hamilton). Bates was totally out of the question, as was Wisconsin.

Don't you people get personalized college counseling for that $65K tuition you pay?

Well, you're simply wrong.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wisconsin
Bates
Tulane
Hamilton

Nobody’s getting into two lane with a B average unless it’s under a sports scholarship.

Not true. If you're ED (aka full pay), you're golden. Ask me how I know.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From our Big 3 many of the B students went to UMiami, Tulane, Northeastern, Colgate, Colby.

Not anymore. A solid B student would be lucky to get into CU Boulder these days.

Did things change this year (2023?)
Because they were getting in last year (2022).

How do you even know since decisions aren't all out yet?

Anonymous wrote:From our Big 3 many of the B students went to UMiami, Tulane, Northeastern, Colgate, Colby.

Not anymore. A solid B student would be lucky to get into CU Boulder these days.

Are you talking about kids who applied to slacs or those trying for large public universities? Because at our private, kids are still doing quite well with slacs, not so well with the big publics who rely more on gpa formulas

I’m talking about kids who applied to both Slac’s and state universities. Rejected from slac’s, deferred/rejected from state U’s with B average and test scores at 95%. I think some of state u deferrals will turn into acceptances.

Lehigh and Villanova, I doubt it. I think the other recs from that long list are good, though.

Here are last year's admits from one of these schools. Average GPA is no higher than a B+ and probably more like a straight B.
And yet almost every kid is into a competitive college.

They make a large difference in admissions for the kids who would not have been at the top of the class in public.
Those kids probably have worse outcomes from private. The rest have better.


Amherst 3
Arizona State
Bates
Boston College 2
Brigham Young
Berkeley
Chicago 11
Claremont McKenna
Colby
Colgate
Cornell 2
Dartmouth 2
Davidson
Duke 2
Elizabeth City State (Sports)
Emory
Florida
Grinnell
Hamilton 2
Harvard 2
Howard
Macalester
Morehouse 2
Mt St. Mary's (Sports)
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Penn
Penn State
Pomona
Princeton 2
Richmond
St. Andrews
Sewanee (Sports)
USC
SMU
Syracuse
Tulane
Naval Academy
Vanderbilt
UVA 3
Wake Forest 2
Wesleyan 2
Whittier
William and Mary
Wisconsin 2
Yale 5

Anonymous wrote:Use CollegeVine to create a list of schools that are targets in your child’s preferred geographic area.

Do they want big or small?

What do they want to study?

WVU
ASU
U of SC

SUNY —Buffalo not Binghamton

Ursinus
Utica
Clark — maybe
Susquehanna
Muhlenberg
Juniata
Kalamazoo—maybe
NEU—full pay will help and your kid could be accepted to a side program where the GPA doesn’t affect the school’s rankings

Eckerd, if marine biology desired
Hollins, if female

If female: Mount Holyoke or Bryan Mawr—full pay will help

Others: UNH, U Maine, U Rhode Island, U Mass Amherst


I included a mix of large and small.

Please, this is way off.

Bucknell
Skidmore
Lehigh
Trinity
Bryn Mawr (if female)
Villanova
MacCalster
Kenyon


Aren't these just one notch down?