Anonymous
Post 03/19/2023 19:06     Subject: Jimmy Carter enters hospice care

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:1968 - GOP conspires to scuttle the peace negotiations to end the Vietnam War. Nixon wins election.

1980 - GOP interferes with Iranian Hostage negotiations, Reagan wins the presidency.

2000 - Al Gore wins florida, but a GOP controlled Supreme Court and the "Brooks Brothers" riots instigated by GOP operative Roger Stone throws the election to George W Bush.

2016 - Russian interference in the US Election helps throw the election to Donald Trump. Other countries such as China and Egypt are also involved.

2020 - Trump tries to get Ukraine to aid reelection bid.

Face it, the GOP hasn't had a legitimate election win since 1988, and even then, with Iran-Contra it was not fully sound.


The final count showed that Bush won in 2000. Are you an election denier?


nope

https://www.factcheck.org/2008/01/the-florida-recount-of-2000/

the study also found that Gore probably would have won, by a range of 42 to 171 votes out of 6 million cast, had there been a broad recount of all disputed ballots statewide. However, Gore never asked for such a recount.


Wrong. Bush won the state by 537 votes. No sense election denying it.

PP has the citation. You have the rioting Republicans.


My cite is the duly certified results. If you deny them, then just say so.

Were you not alive in 2000? Do you not remember the Supreme Court halting the Florida Supreme Court-ordered recount? So the “duly certified results” are kind of a slapdash, finger on the scale way to let Bush win. Perhaps you’re too young to remember it all. But when it comes down to it - Republicans can only win by cheating.


You mean the Florida Supreme Court that was Dem appointed and overruled the "duly certified results" of the Florida Secretary of State?

You mean the whole fiasco that was caused because the Democrat designed "butterfly ballot" of Palm Beach County was challenged because so many people could not handle it properly?

And, FWIW. media did an investigation afterwards and determined that Bush would have won in any case.



Wut? The Florida Supreme Court? No
The Supreme Court.
Anonymous
Post 03/19/2023 18:55     Subject: Jimmy Carter enters hospice care

So Henry Kissinger, who was a Nixon advisor, somehow stayed on with Carter and advised him to allow the Shah of Iran to seek medical care in the US, sparking the Iranian Revolution and cost Carter the re-election because of the hostage crisis; resulting in Reagan and the destruction of the social safety net developed in the 1960's and the eroding of public confidence in government. A direct line of the hellscape we are living today.
Anonymous
Post 03/19/2023 18:43     Subject: Jimmy Carter enters hospice care

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:1968 - GOP conspires to scuttle the peace negotiations to end the Vietnam War. Nixon wins election.

1980 - GOP interferes with Iranian Hostage negotiations, Reagan wins the presidency.

2000 - Al Gore wins florida, but a GOP controlled Supreme Court and the "Brooks Brothers" riots instigated by GOP operative Roger Stone throws the election to George W Bush.

2016 - Russian interference in the US Election helps throw the election to Donald Trump. Other countries such as China and Egypt are also involved.

2020 - Trump tries to get Ukraine to aid reelection bid.

Face it, the GOP hasn't had a legitimate election win since 1988, and even then, with Iran-Contra it was not fully sound.


The final count showed that Bush won in 2000. Are you an election denier?


nope

https://www.factcheck.org/2008/01/the-florida-recount-of-2000/

the study also found that Gore probably would have won, by a range of 42 to 171 votes out of 6 million cast, had there been a broad recount of all disputed ballots statewide. However, Gore never asked for such a recount.


Wrong. Bush won the state by 537 votes. No sense election denying it.

PP has the citation. You have the rioting Republicans.


My cite is the duly certified results. If you deny them, then just say so.

Were you not alive in 2000? Do you not remember the Supreme Court halting the Florida Supreme Court-ordered recount? So the “duly certified results” are kind of a slapdash, finger on the scale way to let Bush win. Perhaps you’re too young to remember it all. But when it comes down to it - Republicans can only win by cheating.


You mean the Florida Supreme Court that was Dem appointed and overruled the "duly certified results" of the Florida Secretary of State?

You mean the whole fiasco that was caused because the Democrat designed "butterfly ballot" of Palm Beach County was challenged because so many people could not handle it properly?

And, FWIW. media did an investigation afterwards and determined that Bush would have won in any case.


The bolded is not true, hence the point of the factcheck link above.
Anonymous
Post 03/19/2023 15:30     Subject: Jimmy Carter enters hospice care

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:1968 - GOP conspires to scuttle the peace negotiations to end the Vietnam War. Nixon wins election.

1980 - GOP interferes with Iranian Hostage negotiations, Reagan wins the presidency.

2000 - Al Gore wins florida, but a GOP controlled Supreme Court and the "Brooks Brothers" riots instigated by GOP operative Roger Stone throws the election to George W Bush.

2016 - Russian interference in the US Election helps throw the election to Donald Trump. Other countries such as China and Egypt are also involved.

2020 - Trump tries to get Ukraine to aid reelection bid.

Face it, the GOP hasn't had a legitimate election win since 1988, and even then, with Iran-Contra it was not fully sound.


The final count showed that Bush won in 2000. Are you an election denier?


nope

https://www.factcheck.org/2008/01/the-florida-recount-of-2000/

the study also found that Gore probably would have won, by a range of 42 to 171 votes out of 6 million cast, had there been a broad recount of all disputed ballots statewide. However, Gore never asked for such a recount.


Wrong. Bush won the state by 537 votes. No sense election denying it.

PP has the citation. You have the rioting Republicans.


My cite is the duly certified results. If you deny them, then just say so.

Were you not alive in 2000? Do you not remember the Supreme Court halting the Florida Supreme Court-ordered recount? So the “duly certified results” are kind of a slapdash, finger on the scale way to let Bush win. Perhaps you’re too young to remember it all. But when it comes down to it - Republicans can only win by cheating.


You mean the Florida Supreme Court that was Dem appointed and overruled the "duly certified results" of the Florida Secretary of State?

You mean the whole fiasco that was caused because the Democrat designed "butterfly ballot" of Palm Beach County was challenged because so many people could not handle it properly?

And, FWIW. media did an investigation afterwards and determined that Bush would have won in any case.
Anonymous
Post 03/19/2023 14:39     Subject: Jimmy Carter enters hospice care

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:1968 - GOP conspires to scuttle the peace negotiations to end the Vietnam War. Nixon wins election.

1980 - GOP interferes with Iranian Hostage negotiations, Reagan wins the presidency.

2000 - Al Gore wins florida, but a GOP controlled Supreme Court and the "Brooks Brothers" riots instigated by GOP operative Roger Stone throws the election to George W Bush.

2016 - Russian interference in the US Election helps throw the election to Donald Trump. Other countries such as China and Egypt are also involved.

2020 - Trump tries to get Ukraine to aid reelection bid.

Face it, the GOP hasn't had a legitimate election win since 1988, and even then, with Iran-Contra it was not fully sound.


The final count showed that Bush won in 2000. Are you an election denier?


nope

https://www.factcheck.org/2008/01/the-florida-recount-of-2000/

the study also found that Gore probably would have won, by a range of 42 to 171 votes out of 6 million cast, had there been a broad recount of all disputed ballots statewide. However, Gore never asked for such a recount.


Wrong. Bush won the state by 537 votes. No sense election denying it.

PP has the citation. You have the rioting Republicans.


My cite is the duly certified results. If you deny them, then just say so.

Were you not alive in 2000? Do you not remember the Supreme Court halting the Florida Supreme Court-ordered recount? So the “duly certified results” are kind of a slapdash, finger on the scale way to let Bush win. Perhaps you’re too young to remember it all. But when it comes down to it - Republicans can only win by cheating.
Anonymous
Post 03/19/2023 13:38     Subject: Jimmy Carter enters hospice care

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:1968 - GOP conspires to scuttle the peace negotiations to end the Vietnam War. Nixon wins election.

1980 - GOP interferes with Iranian Hostage negotiations, Reagan wins the presidency.

2000 - Al Gore wins florida, but a GOP controlled Supreme Court and the "Brooks Brothers" riots instigated by GOP operative Roger Stone throws the election to George W Bush.

2016 - Russian interference in the US Election helps throw the election to Donald Trump. Other countries such as China and Egypt are also involved.

2020 - Trump tries to get Ukraine to aid reelection bid.

Face it, the GOP hasn't had a legitimate election win since 1988, and even then, with Iran-Contra it was not fully sound.


The final count showed that Bush won in 2000. Are you an election denier?


nope

https://www.factcheck.org/2008/01/the-florida-recount-of-2000/

the study also found that Gore probably would have won, by a range of 42 to 171 votes out of 6 million cast, had there been a broad recount of all disputed ballots statewide. However, Gore never asked for such a recount.


Wrong. Bush won the state by 537 votes. No sense election denying it.

PP has the citation. You have the rioting Republicans.


My cite is the duly certified results. If you deny them, then just say so.


Np- If Trump had had his way, those results would have been certified too.


Huh?
Anonymous
Post 03/19/2023 13:24     Subject: Jimmy Carter enters hospice care

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:1968 - GOP conspires to scuttle the peace negotiations to end the Vietnam War. Nixon wins election.

1980 - GOP interferes with Iranian Hostage negotiations, Reagan wins the presidency.

2000 - Al Gore wins florida, but a GOP controlled Supreme Court and the "Brooks Brothers" riots instigated by GOP operative Roger Stone throws the election to George W Bush.

2016 - Russian interference in the US Election helps throw the election to Donald Trump. Other countries such as China and Egypt are also involved.

2020 - Trump tries to get Ukraine to aid reelection bid.

Face it, the GOP hasn't had a legitimate election win since 1988, and even then, with Iran-Contra it was not fully sound.


The final count showed that Bush won in 2000. Are you an election denier?


nope

https://www.factcheck.org/2008/01/the-florida-recount-of-2000/

the study also found that Gore probably would have won, by a range of 42 to 171 votes out of 6 million cast, had there been a broad recount of all disputed ballots statewide. However, Gore never asked for such a recount.


Wrong. Bush won the state by 537 votes. No sense election denying it.


Gore only wanted some disputed votes included. He did not want military absentees included.
Anonymous
Post 03/19/2023 11:43     Subject: Jimmy Carter enters hospice care

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:1968 - GOP conspires to scuttle the peace negotiations to end the Vietnam War. Nixon wins election.

1980 - GOP interferes with Iranian Hostage negotiations, Reagan wins the presidency.

2000 - Al Gore wins florida, but a GOP controlled Supreme Court and the "Brooks Brothers" riots instigated by GOP operative Roger Stone throws the election to George W Bush.

2016 - Russian interference in the US Election helps throw the election to Donald Trump. Other countries such as China and Egypt are also involved.

2020 - Trump tries to get Ukraine to aid reelection bid.

Face it, the GOP hasn't had a legitimate election win since 1988, and even then, with Iran-Contra it was not fully sound.


The final count showed that Bush won in 2000. Are you an election denier?


nope

https://www.factcheck.org/2008/01/the-florida-recount-of-2000/

the study also found that Gore probably would have won, by a range of 42 to 171 votes out of 6 million cast, had there been a broad recount of all disputed ballots statewide. However, Gore never asked for such a recount.


Wrong. Bush won the state by 537 votes. No sense election denying it.

PP has the citation. You have the rioting Republicans.


My cite is the duly certified results. If you deny them, then just say so.


Np- If Trump had had his way, those results would have been certified too.
Anonymous
Post 03/19/2023 11:41     Subject: Jimmy Carter enters hospice care

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:1968 - GOP conspires to scuttle the peace negotiations to end the Vietnam War. Nixon wins election.

1980 - GOP interferes with Iranian Hostage negotiations, Reagan wins the presidency.

2000 - Al Gore wins florida, but a GOP controlled Supreme Court and the "Brooks Brothers" riots instigated by GOP operative Roger Stone throws the election to George W Bush.

2016 - Russian interference in the US Election helps throw the election to Donald Trump. Other countries such as China and Egypt are also involved.

2020 - Trump tries to get Ukraine to aid reelection bid.

Face it, the GOP hasn't had a legitimate election win since 1988, and even then, with Iran-Contra it was not fully sound.


The final count showed that Bush won in 2000. Are you an election denier?


nope

https://www.factcheck.org/2008/01/the-florida-recount-of-2000/

the study also found that Gore probably would have won, by a range of 42 to 171 votes out of 6 million cast, had there been a broad recount of all disputed ballots statewide. However, Gore never asked for such a recount.


Wrong. Bush won the state by 537 votes. No sense election denying it.

PP has the citation. You have the rioting Republicans.


My cite is the duly certified results. If you deny them, then just say so.
Anonymous
Post 03/19/2023 10:50     Subject: Re:Jimmy Carter enters hospice care

Anonymous wrote:
The former Texas Lieutenant Governor who was in charge of the operation just confessed. Pay attention.


Read the story--he "believes" that is what happened.


NP. I read the story last night. Didn't he tell Peter Baker (the NYT reporter) that he didn't realize what was happening until the first meeting with a leader in the Middle East? So he was present and witness to the message being conveyed to Iran via other leaders in the Middle East, he just didn't know ahead of time.
Anonymous
Post 03/19/2023 10:37     Subject: Jimmy Carter enters hospice care

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:1968 - GOP conspires to scuttle the peace negotiations to end the Vietnam War. Nixon wins election.

1980 - GOP interferes with Iranian Hostage negotiations, Reagan wins the presidency.

2000 - Al Gore wins florida, but a GOP controlled Supreme Court and the "Brooks Brothers" riots instigated by GOP operative Roger Stone throws the election to George W Bush.

2016 - Russian interference in the US Election helps throw the election to Donald Trump. Other countries such as China and Egypt are also involved.

2020 - Trump tries to get Ukraine to aid reelection bid.

Face it, the GOP hasn't had a legitimate election win since 1988, and even then, with Iran-Contra it was not fully sound.


The final count showed that Bush won in 2000. Are you an election denier?


nope

https://www.factcheck.org/2008/01/the-florida-recount-of-2000/

the study also found that Gore probably would have won, by a range of 42 to 171 votes out of 6 million cast, had there been a broad recount of all disputed ballots statewide. However, Gore never asked for such a recount.


Wrong. Bush won the state by 537 votes. No sense election denying it.

PP has the citation. You have the rioting Republicans.
Anonymous
Post 03/19/2023 10:34     Subject: Jimmy Carter enters hospice care

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:1968 - GOP conspires to scuttle the peace negotiations to end the Vietnam War. Nixon wins election.

1980 - GOP interferes with Iranian Hostage negotiations, Reagan wins the presidency.

2000 - Al Gore wins florida, but a GOP controlled Supreme Court and the "Brooks Brothers" riots instigated by GOP operative Roger Stone throws the election to George W Bush.

2016 - Russian interference in the US Election helps throw the election to Donald Trump. Other countries such as China and Egypt are also involved.

2020 - Trump tries to get Ukraine to aid reelection bid.

Face it, the GOP hasn't had a legitimate election win since 1988, and even then, with Iran-Contra it was not fully sound.


The final count showed that Bush won in 2000. Are you an election denier?


nope

https://www.factcheck.org/2008/01/the-florida-recount-of-2000/

the study also found that Gore probably would have won, by a range of 42 to 171 votes out of 6 million cast, had there been a broad recount of all disputed ballots statewide. However, Gore never asked for such a recount.


Wrong. Bush won the state by 537 votes. No sense election denying it.
Anonymous
Post 03/19/2023 09:57     Subject: Jimmy Carter enters hospice care

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:1968 - GOP conspires to scuttle the peace negotiations to end the Vietnam War. Nixon wins election.

1980 - GOP interferes with Iranian Hostage negotiations, Reagan wins the presidency.

2000 - Al Gore wins florida, but a GOP controlled Supreme Court and the "Brooks Brothers" riots instigated by GOP operative Roger Stone throws the election to George W Bush.

2016 - Russian interference in the US Election helps throw the election to Donald Trump. Other countries such as China and Egypt are also involved.

2020 - Trump tries to get Ukraine to aid reelection bid.

Face it, the GOP hasn't had a legitimate election win since 1988, and even then, with Iran-Contra it was not fully sound.


The final count showed that Bush won in 2000. Are you an election denier?


nope

https://www.factcheck.org/2008/01/the-florida-recount-of-2000/

the study also found that Gore probably would have won, by a range of 42 to 171 votes out of 6 million cast, had there been a broad recount of all disputed ballots statewide. However, Gore never asked for such a recount.
Anonymous
Post 03/19/2023 09:42     Subject: Jimmy Carter enters hospice care

Anonymous wrote:1968 - GOP conspires to scuttle the peace negotiations to end the Vietnam War. Nixon wins election.

1980 - GOP interferes with Iranian Hostage negotiations, Reagan wins the presidency.

2000 - Al Gore wins florida, but a GOP controlled Supreme Court and the "Brooks Brothers" riots instigated by GOP operative Roger Stone throws the election to George W Bush.

2016 - Russian interference in the US Election helps throw the election to Donald Trump. Other countries such as China and Egypt are also involved.

2020 - Trump tries to get Ukraine to aid reelection bid.

Face it, the GOP hasn't had a legitimate election win since 1988, and even then, with Iran-Contra it was not fully sound.


The final count showed that Bush won in 2000. Are you an election denier?
Anonymous
Post 03/19/2023 09:35     Subject: Re:Jimmy Carter enters hospice care

How paranoid is/was the GOP? Did they not think Reagan would win anyway, regardless of when the hostages were released? He had ten times the number of electoral votes than Carter.