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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t do Serbia now for political reasons, they are too pro putin now. Germany / Poland or combine Slovakia with Czech Republic or Austria. Both Germany and Poland are quite big countries, so the choice really is what specific things they’d like to do / or see. All options are great, but I’d avoid Serbia for now.

You can claim this but absolutely not true, Serbians are not pro Putin, I mean a very small minority--probably the same as the percentage of Americans who are...quite frankly there are so many expats( mostly W.Europeans-as they cant afford living as nicely in their countries) living in Serbia due to the beauty of the nature, the open mentality of the Serbians and the NON judgmental nature of the Serbians that real estate has gone up...my family is there and there are more Ukrainians than Russians who came during the war. And BTW the Ukrainians and Russians there get along because only in DCUM minds is there this huge nationalism gripping Slavs minds and souls....but in general you don't want to be in South Eastern Europe as it is as hot as DC is in the summer-though less humid. I would rather go to Croatia or Slovenia in the summer.

As someone who grew up in the Balkans I completely disagree. They are and always have been very pro Putin. What world do you live in? There are nice people in Serbia of course. But as a matter of National policy they are one of the only European countries openly pro Putin. It wouldn’t prevent me from going, but it’s silly to state that nationalism is not a big issue there. It has been for centires.

I dont know what circles you are in, but no one I know is this way...I guess it depends if you live in the Redneck part of the Balkans or moderate part.

You really aren’t very informed. Just look at Vujcic’s policies. I don’t want to detail this thread, but what you are disputing is on full display. And I’m from a major city not the redneck part as you point out.

Then surely you are aware that Vucic is disliked by most Serbs?

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t do Serbia now for political reasons, they are too pro putin now. Germany / Poland or combine Slovakia with Czech Republic or Austria. Both Germany and Poland are quite big countries, so the choice really is what specific things they’d like to do / or see. All options are great, but I’d avoid Serbia for now.

You can claim this but absolutely not true, Serbians are not pro Putin, I mean a very small minority--probably the same as the percentage of Americans who are...quite frankly there are so many expats( mostly W.Europeans-as they cant afford living as nicely in their countries) living in Serbia due to the beauty of the nature, the open mentality of the Serbians and the NON judgmental nature of the Serbians that real estate has gone up...my family is there and there are more Ukrainians than Russians who came during the war. And BTW the Ukrainians and Russians there get along because only in DCUM minds is there this huge nationalism gripping Slavs minds and souls....but in general you don't want to be in South Eastern Europe as it is as hot as DC is in the summer-though less humid. I would rather go to Croatia or Slovenia in the summer.

As someone who grew up in the Balkans I completely disagree. They are and always have been very pro Putin. What world do you live in? There are nice people in Serbia of course. But as a matter of National policy they are one of the only European countries openly pro Putin. It wouldn’t prevent me from going, but it’s silly to state that nationalism is not a big issue there. It has been for centires.

I dont know what circles you are in, but no one I know is this way...I guess it depends if you live in the Redneck part of the Balkans or moderate part.

You really aren’t very informed. Just look at Vujcic’s policies. I don’t want to detail this thread, but what you are disputing is on full display. And I’m from a major city not the redneck part as you point out.

Anonymous wrote:Polish food isn’t great. And the political and social climate are very Catholic and borderline white supremacy. Plus: the Russia/Ukraine war.

Have you been to Norway? I’m watching a great show on Bergen on pbs right now.

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Anonymous wrote:Belgrade is considered the best party town in Europe. If you were open minded to let them go have a ton of fun. Food is also great.

How does it compare to Berlin? Is Berlin still covid obsessed?

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly only Germany is worth it on your list
Culture and history and it’s a developed country

What an absurd and ridiculous comment. Poland is an incredibly rich country and the hidden gem of Europe. Serbia and Slovakia are also well deserving of a visit. Living in Europe, I pass reminders of the Holocaust on a daily basis. Huge Jewish cemeteries in towns where there are no longer any Jewish residents. In one Jewish cemetery I visited this week, there was an urn containing soap made from human fat at a German death camp. As someone with family murdered by the Germans, I never forget. So why don’t you tell me more about this wonderful German “culture and history.”

I am sorry about the tragedy that happened but Germany is much more than the Holocaust

Anonymous wrote:Belgrade is considered the best party town in Europe. If you were open minded to let them go have a ton of fun. Food is also great.

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Anonymous wrote:Was just talking to someone who had recently been in Serbia. He said people were very hostile and on edge.

Plus they are still but hurt about being bombed by Americans. I’d do Slovakia personally.

Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t do Serbia now for political reasons, they are too pro putin now. Germany / Poland or combine Slovakia with Czech Republic or Austria. Both Germany and Poland are quite big countries, so the choice really is what specific things they’d like to do / or see. All options are great, but I’d avoid Serbia for now.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly only Germany is worth it on your list
Culture and history and it’s a developed country

What an absurd and ridiculous comment. Poland is an incredibly rich country and the hidden gem of Europe. Serbia and Slovakia are also well deserving of a visit. Living in Europe, I pass reminders of the Holocaust on a daily basis. Huge Jewish cemeteries in towns where there are no longer any Jewish residents. In one Jewish cemetery I visited this week, there was an urn containing soap made from human fat at a German death camp. As someone with family murdered by the Germans, I never forget. So why don’t you tell me more about this wonderful German “culture and history.”

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly only Germany is worth it on your list
Culture and history and it’s a developed country

^ Excellent example of a bigot.

Interesting definition of bigot

Grow up and stay on topic.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly only Germany is worth it on your list
Culture and history and it’s a developed country

^ Excellent example of a bigot.

Interesting definition of bigot

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly only Germany is worth it on your list
Culture and history and it’s a developed country

^ Excellent example of a bigot.

Anonymous wrote:Can we get back to discussing travel please? We all know the Balkans are a politically fraught region, but that’s not the point of this thread.