Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, high stats and Deferred by both targets(yield protection) and reaches

If a school is a target, I would think your kid's stats are no higher than the 75th percentile for the school. So why would yield protection come into play?

I am referring to schools that ranks 40-50 like northeastern and case western for very high stats kids with SAT 1550+, most rigorous with 10+ AP

Also same

Neither of these are a safety because they are known to yield protect. I believe Case is also need aware. In any case, for very high stat students, you would need to ED to these schools. There are plenty of schools that are similarly ranked that do not yield protect which would make much better choices as lsafeties.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

all deferrals (7EA mix of solid target and 2 low reaches) and one "let's look at mid-year grades" from what she thought we totally a safety. 2 Rejections from super high reaches.

It sounds like you got bad advice when you developed your list of schools. Safety schools aren't asking for mid-year grades - many are offering honors college, and sharing research opportunities and study abroad options to encourage high stat students to attend.

NP. We received advice constructing my DC’s college list from the school counselor at our “Big3” private school. Rejected at 2 likely schools (safeties), one target, 1 reach. Deferred from 2 likely schools and 5 target schools. I think the counselor was giving good advice based on knowledge in hand and was blindsided by this year’s admission results. They are not following the patterns in scoir AT ALL.

Are you willing to share names of these safeties?

What you are saying makes sense if this were 2021. We are several years into this new world of admissions, though. If a school doesn’t accept more than 50% of applicants, it is not a true safety for anyone, period. This goes double/triple for majors like engineering, CS, business, and neuroscience.

This is spot on. I don’t know think most college counselors appreciate this. I know I didn’t had a parent new to this process. I see so many parents with juniors now making the same bad assumptions.

So far my high stats kid (Mcps magnet, 4.0 UW, 13 AP, 35 ACT) has only gotten into 2 safeties and UMd honors college. Deferrals from the rest of EA.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, high stats and Deferred by both targets(yield protection) and reaches

If a school is a target, I would think your kid's stats are no higher than the 75th percentile for the school. So why would yield protection come into play?

I am referring to schools that ranks 40-50 like northeastern and case western for very high stats kids with SAT 1550+, most rigorous with 10+ AP

That is my DC. Sitting on deferrals from both those schools with those stats. Sigh.

Just curious with respect to Case (I don't have experience with Northeastern)...did you visit the school? Did your kid sign up for the emails and actually open them? Did your kid participate in the various virtual sessions? Since Case has no supplemental essays, did your kid send an email to admissions essentially writing 250 words on "why I want to attend Case?"

I hate to say it, but there are all these hoops that you can go through to up your chances at a place like Case. They absolutely care about demonstrated interest.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, high stats and Deferred by both targets(yield protection) and reaches

If a school is a target, I would think your kid's stats are no higher than the 75th percentile for the school. So why would yield protection come into play?

I am referring to schools that ranks 40-50 like northeastern and case western for very high stats kids with SAT 1550+, most rigorous with 10+ AP

Also same

Anonymous wrote:Well here we are:

all deferrals (7EA mix of solid target and 2 low reaches) and one "let's look at mid-year grades" from what she thought we totally a safety. 2 Rejections from super high reaches.

so... currently no where to go and quite uneasy. Very high stats all round great kid and counselors are puzzled. Don't really know what to do other than to keep waiting and have her knock her supplemental information forms (if they have them) out of the park. UVA only wanted her to check a box and submit grades.

I think an important question to ask is whether these safety/targets are super popular schools. From what I can tell, high school seniors are extremely narrow in the schools they're interested in attending. If your DD applied to some of these "usual suspects," then this is not that surprising.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

all deferrals (7EA mix of solid target and 2 low reaches) and one "let's look at mid-year grades" from what she thought we totally a safety. 2 Rejections from super high reaches.

It sounds like you got bad advice when you developed your list of schools. Safety schools aren't asking for mid-year grades - many are offering honors college, and sharing research opportunities and study abroad options to encourage high stat students to attend.

NP. We received advice constructing my DC’s college list from the school counselor at our “Big3” private school. Rejected at 2 likely schools (safeties), one target, 1 reach. Deferred from 2 likely schools and 5 target schools. I think the counselor was giving good advice based on knowledge in hand and was blindsided by this year’s admission results. They are not following the patterns in scoir AT ALL.

Are you willing to share names of these safeties?

What you are saying makes sense if this were 2021. We are several years into this new world of admissions, though. If a school doesn’t accept more than 50% of applicants, it is not a true safety for anyone, period. This goes double/triple for majors like engineering, CS, business, and neuroscience.

Anonymous wrote:

all deferrals (7EA mix of solid target and 2 low reaches) and one "let's look at mid-year grades" from what she thought we totally a safety. 2 Rejections from super high reaches.

It sounds like you got bad advice when you developed your list of schools. Safety schools aren't asking for mid-year grades - many are offering honors college, and sharing research opportunities and study abroad options to encourage high stat students to attend.

NP. We received advice constructing my DC’s college list from the school counselor at our “Big3” private school. Rejected at 2 likely schools (safeties), one target, 1 reach. Deferred from 2 likely schools and 5 target schools. I think the counselor was giving good advice based on knowledge in hand and was blindsided by this year’s admission results. They are not following the patterns in scoir AT ALL.

all deferrals (7EA mix of solid target and 2 low reaches) and one "let's look at mid-year grades" from what she thought we totally a safety. 2 Rejections from super high reaches.

It sounds like you got bad advice when you developed your list of schools. Safety schools aren't asking for mid-year grades - many are offering honors college, and sharing research opportunities and study abroad options to encourage high stat students to attend.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well here we are:

all deferrals (7EA mix of solid target and 2 low reaches) and one "let's look at mid-year grades" from what she thought we totally a safety. 2 Rejections from super high reaches.

so... currently no where to go and quite uneasy. Very high stats all round great kid and counselors are puzzled. Don't really know what to do other than to keep waiting and have her knock her supplemental information forms (if they have them) out of the park. UVA only wanted her to check a box and submit grades.

I'm sorry to hear that, PP. How did you know her list of 7 were targets and low reaches? I'm wondering if we're all led astray and not using the right criteria to assess this.

Thought based on previous admission and common data set data that they were targets, reaches, safeties.... and also worked with very knowledgeable counselors at school - counselors who know my DD very well and know the schools well. She is wanting a competitive major but that was considered as well. Just dumbfounded

I see. Well, some of these have to come back positive then! Sending good vibes your way!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well here we are:

all deferrals (7EA mix of solid target and 2 low reaches) and one "let's look at mid-year grades" from what she thought we totally a safety. 2 Rejections from super high reaches.

so... currently no where to go and quite uneasy. Very high stats all round great kid and counselors are puzzled. Don't really know what to do other than to keep waiting and have her knock her supplemental information forms (if they have them) out of the park. UVA only wanted her to check a box and submit grades.

I'm sorry to hear that, PP. How did you know her list of 7 were targets and low reaches? I'm wondering if we're all led astray and not using the right criteria to assess this.

Thought based on previous admission and common data set data that they were targets, reaches, safeties.... and also worked with very knowledgeable counselors at school - counselors who know my DD very well and know the schools well. She is wanting a competitive major but that was considered as well. Just dumbfounded

Anonymous wrote:Well here we are:

all deferrals (7EA mix of solid target and 2 low reaches) and one "let's look at mid-year grades" from what she thought we totally a safety. 2 Rejections from super high reaches.

so... currently no where to go and quite uneasy. Very high stats all round great kid and counselors are puzzled. Don't really know what to do other than to keep waiting and have her knock her supplemental information forms (if they have them) out of the park. UVA only wanted her to check a box and submit grades.

I’m sorry as that must be a tough feeling. There is still time to apply to other places that are likelies.

Anonymous wrote:Well here we are:

all deferrals (7EA mix of solid target and 2 low reaches) and one "let's look at mid-year grades" from what she thought we totally a safety. 2 Rejections from super high reaches.

so... currently no where to go and quite uneasy. Very high stats all round great kid and counselors are puzzled. Don't really know what to do other than to keep waiting and have her knock her supplemental information forms (if they have them) out of the park. UVA only wanted her to check a box and submit grades.

I'm sorry to hear that, PP. How did you know her list of 7 were targets and low reaches? I'm wondering if we're all led astray and not using the right criteria to assess this.

Well here we are:

all deferrals (7EA mix of solid target and 2 low reaches) and one "let's look at mid-year grades" from what she thought we totally a safety. 2 Rejections from super high reaches.

so... currently no where to go and quite uneasy. Very high stats all round great kid and counselors are puzzled. Don't really know what to do other than to keep waiting and have her knock her supplemental information forms (if they have them) out of the park. UVA only wanted her to check a box and submit grades.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, high stats and Deferred by both targets(yield protection) and reaches

If a school is a target, I would think your kid's stats are no higher than the 75th percentile for the school. So why would yield protection come into play?

I am referring to schools that ranks 40-50 like northeastern and case western for very high stats kids with SAT 1550+, most rigorous with 10+ AP

That is my DC. Sitting on deferrals from both those schools with those stats. Sigh.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, high stats and Deferred by both targets(yield protection) and reaches

If a school is a target, I would think your kid's stats are no higher than the 75th percentile for the school. So why would yield protection come into play?

I am referring to schools that ranks 40-50 like northeastern and case western for very high stats kids with SAT 1550+, most rigorous with 10+ AP