Anonymous wrote:Basically girls and women are the ones who are bearing the brunt of this nonsense vocab shift. I am getting more specific with my gendered language, not less. Like when I talk about violent offenders, I call them men bc they are never women, e.g. I am not interested in eliminating "girl" or woman" from my vocab at all. I think it hurts us as women.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Men can’t get pregnant.
A woman is an adult human female.
These are controversial sayings now.
If you already know that the pregnant person is female human, then why would saying "person" be a problem. What information does "girl" or "woman" add?
Then why would it bother you if you did say girl?
No one on this thread has been bothered by girl. They've either had a fit about person, or they have said that having a fit about someone using the word person is stupid.
The only word that people on this thread seem to be bothered by is person. Why does that word bother you?
You are wrong. People use the term "pregnant person" because they don't want to offend anyone. You know that. Answer my question first. Why does the wod girl bother you. Would you say "a person in my class has testicular cancer" OR would you say "a boy in my class has testicular cancer"
NP. The words “girl” and “women” do not bother me. I hear and say those things in conversation. I am also completely unbothered by the word “person.” I don’t care which word is used. The point of language to convey meaning, and when someone is described as a “pregnant person” or a “pregnant woman”…I got the meaning, and I move on with my day. For anyone to bring conversation to a screeching halt over “person” is beyond absurd and dramatic.
It isn't absurd because women have been unrepresented in medical trials. If we eliminate "women" and "girls" than there will be no change. Well, we study "people" who have heart attacks. Even though we know women have different symptoms and aren't treated as seriously. Women are "hysterical" That is why the word women/girls matter.
You do realize that the OP who started this thread is criticizing her daughter for casual conversation, not fretting about her daughter’s contributions to a medical journal and the implications thereof, yes? Tell me you understand that.
Anonymous wrote:I feel like I’m losing my mind, because I can’t figure what this thread is about.
Anonymous wrote:Basically girls and women are the ones who are bearing the brunt of this nonsense vocab shift. I am getting more specific with my gendered language, not less. Like when I talk about violent offenders, I call them men bc they are never women, e.g. I am not interested in eliminating "girl" or woman" from my vocab at all. I think it hurts us as women.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Men can’t get pregnant.
A woman is an adult human female.
These are controversial sayings now.
If you already know that the pregnant person is female human, then why would saying "person" be a problem. What information does "girl" or "woman" add?
Then why would it bother you if you did say girl?
The person saying “person” is the OP’s daughter. Some on this thread (like me) are hoping the pregnant person has all the help needed. I mean wouldn’t that be what the average parent thinks? Somehow it seems to bother people like you and OP that her daughter said “pregnant person” rather than “pregnant girl”. In reverse, if the OP had come on the board and said her daughter had talked about the pregnant woman at school, nobody would have cared. And the thread might have proceeded down the path of teen pregnancy. The only people making a big deal out of this are you.
It obviously bothers the op or they wouldn't have started it. And I can assure you that I am not the only person who is bothered by it. Tell me you are gen z without saying you are. You are policing my word choice just because you can and I am not going to lie down and take it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Men can’t get pregnant.
A woman is an adult human female.
These are controversial sayings now.
If you already know that the pregnant person is female human, then why would saying "person" be a problem. What information does "girl" or "woman" add?
Then why would it bother you if you did say girl?
No one on this thread has been bothered by girl. They've either had a fit about person, or they have said that having a fit about someone using the word person is stupid.
The only word that people on this thread seem to be bothered by is person. Why does that word bother you?
You are wrong. People use the term "pregnant person" because they don't want to offend anyone. You know that. Answer my question first. Why does the wod girl bother you. Would you say "a person in my class has testicular cancer" OR would you say "a boy in my class has testicular cancer"
NP. The words “girl” and “women” do not bother me. I hear and say those things in conversation. I am also completely unbothered by the word “person.” I don’t care which word is used. The point of language to convey meaning, and when someone is described as a “pregnant person” or a “pregnant woman”…I got the meaning, and I move on with my day. For anyone to bring conversation to a screeching halt over “person” is beyond absurd and dramatic.
It isn't absurd because women have been unrepresented in medical trials. If we eliminate "women" and "girls" than there will be no change. Well, we study "people" who have heart attacks. Even though we know women have different symptoms and aren't treated as seriously. Women are "hysterical" That is why the word women/girls matter.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, someone used a specific word to apply to a specific person, and you assume that they won't use another word at all?
Should I assume your whole generation won't use the world "person" if you choose to use the word "girl" to refer to someone?
I think there is a general trend towards using a gender neutral term, unless specifically talking about someone's gender. So, I say "server" instead of "waitress", and "firefighter" instead of "fireman" even when I am pretty confident I knew that the server was female and the firefighter was male. I might ask "where do you buy shoes for a toddler?" even though I know whether my specific toddler is a little boy or a little girl. So, maybe it was just carrying this habit over to the pregnant person. Or maybe since they are talking about a specific person, they are using the word that person prefers.
This is a totally sane and correct take. Hope it won’t get buried.
Also, if someone is about to have a child, I think they probably should be called a woman or a person rather than “girl.”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Men can’t get pregnant.
A woman is an adult human female.
These are controversial sayings now.
If you already know that the pregnant person is female human, then why would saying "person" be a problem. What information does "girl" or "woman" add?
Then why would it bother you if you did say girl?
No one on this thread has been bothered by girl. They've either had a fit about person, or they have said that having a fit about someone using the word person is stupid.
The only word that people on this thread seem to be bothered by is person. Why does that word bother you?
You are wrong. People use the term "pregnant person" because they don't want to offend anyone. You know that. Answer my question first. Why does the wod girl bother you. Would you say "a person in my class has testicular cancer" OR would you say "a boy in my class has testicular cancer"
NP. The words “girl” and “women” do not bother me. I hear and say those things in conversation. I am also completely unbothered by the word “person.” I don’t care which word is used. The point of language to convey meaning, and when someone is described as a “pregnant person” or a “pregnant woman”…I got the meaning, and I move on with my day. For anyone to bring conversation to a screeching halt over “person” is beyond absurd and dramatic.
It isn't absurd because women have been unrepresented in medical trials. If we eliminate "women" and "girls" than there will be no change. Well, we study "people" who have heart attacks. Even though we know women have different symptoms and aren't treated as seriously. Women are "hysterical" That is why the word women/girls matter.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Men can’t get pregnant.
A woman is an adult human female.
These are controversial sayings now.
If you already know that the pregnant person is female human, then why would saying "person" be a problem. What information does "girl" or "woman" add?
Then why would it bother you if you did say girl?
The person saying “person” is the OP’s daughter. Some on this thread (like me) are hoping the pregnant person has all the help needed. I mean wouldn’t that be what the average parent thinks? Somehow it seems to bother people like you and OP that her daughter said “pregnant person” rather than “pregnant girl”. In reverse, if the OP had come on the board and said her daughter had talked about the pregnant woman at school, nobody would have cared. And the thread might have proceeded down the path of teen pregnancy. The only people making a big deal out of this are you.
It obviously bothers the op or they wouldn't have started it. And I can assure you that I am not the only person who is bothered by it. Tell me you are gen z without saying you are. You are policing my word choice just because you can and I am not going to lie down and take it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Men can’t get pregnant.
A woman is an adult human female.
These are controversial sayings now.
If you already know that the pregnant person is female human, then why would saying "person" be a problem. What information does "girl" or "woman" add?
Then why would it bother you if you did say girl?
The person saying “person” is the OP’s daughter. Some on this thread (like me) are hoping the pregnant person has all the help needed. I mean wouldn’t that be what the average parent thinks? Somehow it seems to bother people like you and OP that her daughter said “pregnant person” rather than “pregnant girl”. In reverse, if the OP had come on the board and said her daughter had talked about the pregnant woman at school, nobody would have cared. And the thread might have proceeded down the path of teen pregnancy. The only people making a big deal out of this are you.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Men can’t get pregnant.
A woman is an adult human female.
These are controversial sayings now.
If you already know that the pregnant person is female human, then why would saying "person" be a problem. What information does "girl" or "woman" add?
Then why would it bother you if you did say girl?
No one on this thread has been bothered by girl. They've either had a fit about person, or they have said that having a fit about someone using the word person is stupid.
The only word that people on this thread seem to be bothered by is person. Why does that word bother you?
You are wrong. People use the term "pregnant person" because they don't want to offend anyone. You know that. Answer my question first. Why does the wod girl bother you. Would you say "a person in my class has testicular cancer" OR would you say "a boy in my class has testicular cancer"
NP. The words “girl” and “women” do not bother me. I hear and say those things in conversation. I am also completely unbothered by the word “person.” I don’t care which word is used. The point of language to convey meaning, and when someone is described as a “pregnant person” or a “pregnant woman”…I got the meaning, and I move on with my day. For anyone to bring conversation to a screeching halt over “person” is beyond absurd and dramatic.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Men can’t get pregnant.
A woman is an adult human female.
These are controversial sayings now.
If you already know that the pregnant person is female human, then why would saying "person" be a problem. What information does "girl" or "woman" add?
Then why would it bother you if you did say girl?