Anonymous
02/08/2023 21:38
Subject: Re:USC University of South Carolina (gamecocks)
Both of my friend's sisters did this program at SC. One did Sports Management and I am not sure what the other one did. I think thy both liked the school. They were both fairly liberal kids from Bethesda. My brother went to SC (15 plus years ago). We helped him move in to his dorm in August and I have to say the SC/Columbia at that time of year felt like the hottest place on earth!!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My son goes there. We are in MD. Most kids from here do Risk and Insurance (business school) or sports and event mgmt (hospitality school). We get in state for those 2 degrees.
We were definitely hit up by Christian groups when we were there (we are catholic and my son went to Catholic private)
His roommate was from SC and his mom said to me she was glad her son wasn’t rooming with the more conservative South Carolina boys.
He hears the n word on the regular.
Frats are based on where you are from. For example. He wanted the same frat as his roommate but he is from Md so they said no chance. He ended up not joining a md frat … he would have just ended up with Gonzaga/prep/st John’s/GC kids he already knows)
You know your kid, it could go either way. For my don it just solidified that “these people really exist”.
OToH, he loves the weather. He golfs with friends a few times a week. Like all schools some teachers are great/some are not.
Lots of football, girl’s basketball is big time, Spring is a little more laid back, lots of opportunities to do a semester abroad.
How does the in state tuition program work?
It’s call academic common market.
You get accepted to that degree, apply to ACM, get accepted, and my bill say -10,000 (or whatever it is) for academic common market.
https://www.sreb.org/academic-common-market
Anonymous
02/08/2023 21:09
Subject: USC University of South Carolina (gamecocks)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yeah the more frequent and open racism, huge Greek culture, conservatism of the State and the school being a bit of a let down for those who didn’t get into Clemson all seem like big turnoffs to me.
Why are we continuing to perpetuate stereotypes based on experiences you all had over a decade ago?
I have a student there now. No indications of any of these things mentioned. Great school overall. Even better business school.
Super fun sports and social scene. Strong academics.
But, I guess that doesn't meet the DCUM narrative. Sorry it isn't an Ivy. In many ways, it is better!
GO COCKS!
My son is there and there is frequent use of the n word and racism.
Not by the university or teachers but definitely by students.
It’s not a stereo type it’s a fact.
My sons SC friends are not racist but most other people he meets don’t think anything of it.
This is a big concern for my liberal DC who is actually considering the school after a surprisingly great visit where, obviously, none of this was present. They found the community to be diverse, down to earth, and even liked Columbia. Does your son regret choosing UofSC?
Regret no. Is it as great as he hoped, no. But I thinks it’s unfair to only get my feedback on that because he is a 2020 kid and I feel that year was robbed of many normal college experiences.
Everywhere I ho if I wear a gamecock anything somebody tells me they went there and lived it. My H is in finance and many gamecocks work there.
I’d say most of his problems were COVID related.
I think the racism is educational… not just some thing he’s heard about in school or from us, it’s actually real.
The university is liberal though. The governor and the president of the school sued each other over COVID masks and online school.
There were racist protestors on campus (it’s a public school so they could not really kick them out) and the students and the band circled them to drowned out their racist chants. The president quickly condemned it.
I think he dislikes the frat atmosphere more than he thought he would.
But he likes the school, the weather, golfing, the food, football, food and he’s finally getting into some clubs. Did I mention the food, lol. They have food street festivals every Saturday and the food is multicultural not just southern.
I’m the pp who asked about regrets and really appreciate your thoughtful response. I think we were expecting more of the stereotype on our tour, but ended up really surprised, and now it’s a top choice based on multiple factors (merit aid, size, location, specific programs offered). The school, and the community around it, felt quite diverse and open. My DC is not looking to be in a liberal bubble but i want them to dig a bit deeper. I’m sure Covid presented a lot of challenges. I’m glad your DS is settling into a good groove!
Anonymous
02/08/2023 18:46
Subject: USC University of South Carolina (gamecocks)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yeah the more frequent and open racism, huge Greek culture, conservatism of the State and the school being a bit of a let down for those who didn’t get into Clemson all seem like big turnoffs to me.
Why are we continuing to perpetuate stereotypes based on experiences you all had over a decade ago?
I have a student there now. No indications of any of these things mentioned. Great school overall. Even better business school.
Super fun sports and social scene. Strong academics.
But, I guess that doesn't meet the DCUM narrative. Sorry it isn't an Ivy. In many ways, it is better!
GO COCKS!
My son is there and there is frequent use of the n word and racism.
Not by the university or teachers but definitely by students.
It’s not a stereo type it’s a fact.
My sons SC friends are not racist but most other people he meets don’t think anything of it.
This is a big concern for my liberal DC who is actually considering the school after a surprisingly great visit where, obviously, none of this was present. They found the community to be diverse, down to earth, and even liked Columbia. Does your son regret choosing UofSC?
Regret no. Is it as great as he hoped, no. But I thinks it’s unfair to only get my feedback on that because he is a 2020 kid and I feel that year was robbed of many normal college experiences.
Everywhere I ho if I wear a gamecock anything somebody tells me they went there and lived it. My H is in finance and many gamecocks work there.
I’d say most of his problems were COVID related.
I think the racism is educational… not just some thing he’s heard about in school or from us, it’s actually real.
The university is liberal though. The governor and the president of the school sued each other over COVID masks and online school.
There were racist protestors on campus (it’s a public school so they could not really kick them out) and the students and the band circled them to drowned out their racist chants. The president quickly condemned it.
I think he dislikes the frat atmosphere more than he thought he would.
But he likes the school, the weather, golfing, the food, football, food and he’s finally getting into some clubs. Did I mention the food, lol. They have food street festivals every Saturday and the food is multicultural not just southern.
Anonymous
02/08/2023 18:33
Subject: USC University of South Carolina (gamecocks)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yeah the more frequent and open racism, huge Greek culture, conservatism of the State and the school being a bit of a let down for those who didn’t get into Clemson all seem like big turnoffs to me.
Why are we continuing to perpetuate stereotypes based on experiences you all had over a decade ago?
I have a student there now. No indications of any of these things mentioned. Great school overall. Even better business school.
Super fun sports and social scene. Strong academics.
But, I guess that doesn't meet the DCUM narrative. Sorry it isn't an Ivy. In many ways, it is better!
GO COCKS!
My son is there and there is frequent use of the n word and racism.
Not by the university or teachers but definitely by students.
It’s not a stereo type it’s a fact.
My sons SC friends are not racist but most other people he meets don’t think anything of it.
So you are condemning an entire student body based on your son's experience? And then resolve your son's friends. And then say most others don't think anything of it?
Sounds like a lot of double standards being applied here.
I never once stated that my son heard an entire student body use the n word.
His roommate is from SC and is very liberal. Jokes about we eat pimento cheese but never Palmetto cheese.
But also my son hears the n word all the time, like it NBD for many students. The racist comments are something he has never seen. BTW my kids went to a conservative Catholic school and he never heard this much racism.
Anonymous
02/08/2023 17:57
Subject: USC University of South Carolina (gamecocks)
Anonymous wrote:The only reasons I’m really considering South Carolina from out of state is:
1) my kid might qualify for in-state tuition, based on gpa and test scores, and
2) they might be able to continue with their D1 level sport
Also, it seems like the type of atmosphere they would enjoy, and also, their business program a strong, and that’s what my child would major in
Didn't know about this possibility. Mind sharing what those cut-offs are? Couldn't find it on their website. We are considering U-SC for our junior and this option may sweeten the deal.
Anonymous
02/08/2023 15:24
Subject: USC University of South Carolina (gamecocks)
The only reasons I’m really considering South Carolina from out of state is:
1) my kid might qualify for in-state tuition, based on gpa and test scores, and
2) they might be able to continue with their D1 level sport
Also, it seems like the type of atmosphere they would enjoy, and also, their business program a strong, and that’s what my child would major in
1) my kid might qualify for in-state tuition, based on gpa and test scores, and
2) they might be able to continue with their D1 level sport
Also, it seems like the type of atmosphere they would enjoy, and also, their business program a strong, and that’s what my child would major in
Anonymous
02/08/2023 14:22
Subject: USC University of South Carolina (gamecocks)
Anonymous wrote:Jeez people. I would be concerned if my child went to Brown or Berkeley and the influence those schools would have on my kid too.
The purpose of this whole forum is to learn more about colleges and the experiences at them. Is it enmeshment to post on here?
It s not just about conservative politics. It’s about the 4 years my kid is going to spend at a school, where I, going to enable the choice by paying $150k+
I’m going to allow him to make his own decisions. To a point. I’m not paying or supporting certain things, like a for profit university, and I want to go in eyes wide open. That’s all.
Very rational and on point.
I personally would never ever send my kids to a school in a red state. That is my choice.
Nor would I even send my kid to a school like Liberty or Hillsdale.
Or a for-profit just like you.
And you are right it is expensive to send a kid to USC actually absurdly expensive for a state school OOS.
I have been to USC for some football games why anyone sends their kid OOS for that I don't get it.
Anonymous
02/08/2023 14:12
Subject: USC University of South Carolina (gamecocks)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yeah the more frequent and open racism, huge Greek culture, conservatism of the State and the school being a bit of a let down for those who didn’t get into Clemson all seem like big turnoffs to me.
Why are we continuing to perpetuate stereotypes based on experiences you all had over a decade ago?
I have a student there now. No indications of any of these things mentioned. Great school overall. Even better business school.
Super fun sports and social scene. Strong academics.
But, I guess that doesn't meet the DCUM narrative. Sorry it isn't an Ivy. In many ways, it is better!
GO COCKS!
My son is there and there is frequent use of the n word and racism.
Not by the university or teachers but definitely by students.
It’s not a stereo type it’s a fact.
My sons SC friends are not racist but most other people he meets don’t think anything of it.
Go away double-space all-caps troll
Anonymous
02/08/2023 14:08
Subject: Re:USC University of South Carolina (gamecocks)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A friend's kid - normal jocky white guy from a Bethesda HS - matriculated at USC/Columbia with some classmates five years ago. Couldn't stand it -- the parochialism, the race attitudes, the antiquated dated scene, the country club anti-semitism (said he never felt Jewish until he went to USC). He focussed on keeping his grades up and transferred after his freshman year to Syracuse, where he spent three really happy years (and was in a fraternity at Syracuse, so it's not like he's some social justice warrior).
To each their own, but be careful not to automatically buy into the "everyone from the DMV is going to southern flagships now" hype you see on this site. It can be a bigger culture shock that one expects or is prepared for. South Carolina might not be quite as "southern" as it used to be, but the DMV is also a lot more northeastern than it used to be.
I live in not so great FCPS pyramid and have noticed a lot more kids matriculating to Southern Flagships. I know a few families with kids there now or heading there next fall and money is the overwhelming reason. Those schools approach free for a good student. Meanwhile, UVA and W&M are pushing 40k a year in state.
it is already over 40K at UVA , 45.88K all-in to be exact for in-state, if your kid is in School of Engineering or Applied Sciences.
Anonymous
02/08/2023 14:03
Subject: USC University of South Carolina (gamecocks)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yeah the more frequent and open racism, huge Greek culture, conservatism of the State and the school being a bit of a let down for those who didn’t get into Clemson all seem like big turnoffs to me.
Why are we continuing to perpetuate stereotypes based on experiences you all had over a decade ago?
I have a student there now. No indications of any of these things mentioned. Great school overall. Even better business school.
Super fun sports and social scene. Strong academics.
But, I guess that doesn't meet the DCUM narrative. Sorry it isn't an Ivy. In many ways, it is better!
GO COCKS!
Because they are narrow minded hyper-emotional humans that harbor an irrational fear and thus zero tolerance for anything divergent from their ideology.
Heh. You just described many of the "progressives" I know.
You think? For a certain subset of this site no Southern school is acceptable. But I guess it gives the "morally superior" DMV types the opportunity to beat their chest...oh well.
Anonymous
02/08/2023 13:59
Subject: Re:USC University of South Carolina (gamecocks)
+1.To each their own, but be careful not to automatically buy into the "everyone from the DMV is going to southern flagships now" hype you see on this site.
Anonymous
02/08/2023 13:54
Subject: USC University of South Carolina (gamecocks)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yeah the more frequent and open racism, huge Greek culture, conservatism of the State and the school being a bit of a let down for those who didn’t get into Clemson all seem like big turnoffs to me.
Why are we continuing to perpetuate stereotypes based on experiences you all had over a decade ago?
I have a student there now. No indications of any of these things mentioned. Great school overall. Even better business school.
Super fun sports and social scene. Strong academics.
But, I guess that doesn't meet the DCUM narrative. Sorry it isn't an Ivy. In many ways, it is better!
GO COCKS!
Because they are narrow minded hyper-emotional humans that harbor an irrational fear and thus zero tolerance for anything divergent from their ideology.
Heh. You just described many of the "progressives" I know.
Anonymous
02/08/2023 13:54
Subject: Re:USC University of South Carolina (gamecocks)
Anonymous wrote:A friend's kid - normal jocky white guy from a Bethesda HS - matriculated at USC/Columbia with some classmates five years ago. Couldn't stand it -- the parochialism, the race attitudes, the antiquated dated scene, the country club anti-semitism (said he never felt Jewish until he went to USC). He focussed on keeping his grades up and transferred after his freshman year to Syracuse, where he spent three really happy years (and was in a fraternity at Syracuse, so it's not like he's some social justice warrior).
To each their own, but be careful not to automatically buy into the "everyone from the DMV is going to southern flagships now" hype you see on this site. It can be a bigger culture shock that one expects or is prepared for. South Carolina might not be quite as "southern" as it used to be, but the DMV is also a lot more northeastern than it used to be.
I live in not so great FCPS pyramid and have noticed a lot more kids matriculating to Southern Flagships. I know a few families with kids there now or heading there next fall and money is the overwhelming reason. Those schools approach free for a good student. Meanwhile, UVA and W&M are pushing 40k a year in state.
Anonymous
02/08/2023 13:49
Subject: Re:USC University of South Carolina (gamecocks)
A friend's kid - normal jocky white guy from a Bethesda HS - matriculated at USC/Columbia with some classmates five years ago. Couldn't stand it -- the parochialism, the race attitudes, the antiquated dated scene, the country club anti-semitism (said he never felt Jewish until he went to USC). He focussed on keeping his grades up and transferred after his freshman year to Syracuse, where he spent three really happy years (and was in a fraternity at Syracuse, so it's not like he's some social justice warrior).
To each their own, but be careful not to automatically buy into the "everyone from the DMV is going to southern flagships now" hype you see on this site. It can be a bigger culture shock that one expects or is prepared for. South Carolina might not be quite as "southern" as it used to be, but the DMV is also a lot more northeastern than it used to be.
To each their own, but be careful not to automatically buy into the "everyone from the DMV is going to southern flagships now" hype you see on this site. It can be a bigger culture shock that one expects or is prepared for. South Carolina might not be quite as "southern" as it used to be, but the DMV is also a lot more northeastern than it used to be.
Anonymous
02/08/2023 13:30
Subject: USC University of South Carolina (gamecocks)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yeah the more frequent and open racism, huge Greek culture, conservatism of the State and the school being a bit of a let down for those who didn’t get into Clemson all seem like big turnoffs to me.
Why are we continuing to perpetuate stereotypes based on experiences you all had over a decade ago?
I have a student there now. No indications of any of these things mentioned. Great school overall. Even better business school.
Super fun sports and social scene. Strong academics.
But, I guess that doesn't meet the DCUM narrative. Sorry it isn't an Ivy. In many ways, it is better!
GO COCKS!
Because they are narrow minded hyper-emotional humans that harbor an irrational fear and thus zero tolerance for anything divergent from their ideology.
I'm the PP who posted who attended and graduated 10 years ago (which frankly is not too far in the past). I'm also from the south, have friends who live in Columbia and Greenville and have attended football games. I've also as recently as 5 years ago attended alumni events for my sorority (tri-delt).
My view is that it's a good school for some things. I did incredibly well there, got research opportunities in the sciences and had great health care volunteering opportunities. My social life was good, if not a bit unfulfilling because the social truth of the environment I was in was exactly how I described. Yes, there are liberal people, yes, there are black people, but holy hell, the racism was something I still try to unpack sometimes because it was everywhere. It was super ugly.
But what was so crazy was the let's get married or one night stand dichotomy that ruled the dating world down there.
Lot of racism at University of Minnesota as well. Racism is everywhere, including the DMV.
I've lived in South Carolina and now live in the DMV. There is racism here, but no where near the level there. Comments and actions that your get you expelled or fired and ostracized here are regular occurrences there 2