Anonymous
Post 01/30/2023 14:23     Subject: Not hyperbole: locked bathrooms and 8 uses of narcan in MCPS. Drug and alcohol use out of control

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You sound completely deranged.


You sound completely out of touch with the current realities and the state of MCPS.

Students now ODing everywhere on hard drugs like opioids.

Ridiculous. Why am I paying taxes for this crap show?


I don't deny what is happening but how is your solution to blame MCPS? Do I think they are partially to blame given how long we were shut down? Absolutely but the fact that you are spinning this as a "what are they doing about this" is strange


It seems like a concerted fearmongering effort. This stuff was happening even at my W HS 30+ years ago. I wasn't personally interested but it was still going on even back then.


Were kids dropping dead from overdoses at your high school 30 years ago? I don't understand how people can make this argument in this day and age.

If you aren't going to part of the solution, just go away and be quiet.


1992 graduate from an MCPS HS here and absolutely no one dropped dead at my school resulting from a drug OD. This is very concerning and MCPS can certainly do more but they don't have the appetite to do it. Why? Because it would require more security. The bottom line is, there isn't enough security at the high schools. You need security assigned to monitor bathrooms and all doors to the building. I know for a fact that at our HS, which doesn't have open lunch, kids just walk out of the building during lunch and come back high. Another thing is that if you're caught doing drugs or are under the influence, there needs to be significant consequences. Another thing that MCPS doesn't want to do.


Yes, this is the same conclusion I've reached as well.

The question I have is if more security resources (tech and personnel) is the issue, why doesn't MCPS ask for more resources in the budget for this in the same way they did for mental health and tutoring???
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2023 14:19     Subject: Not hyperbole: locked bathrooms and 8 uses of narcan in MCPS. Drug and alcohol use out of control

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You sound completely deranged.


You sound completely out of touch with the current realities and the state of MCPS.

Students now ODing everywhere on hard drugs like opioids.

Ridiculous. Why am I paying taxes for this crap show?


I don't deny what is happening but how is your solution to blame MCPS? Do I think they are partially to blame given how long we were shut down? Absolutely but the fact that you are spinning this as a "what are they doing about this" is strange


It seems like a concerted fearmongering effort. This stuff was happening even at my W HS 30+ years ago. I wasn't personally interested but it was still going on even back then.


Were kids dropping dead from overdoses at your high school 30 years ago? I don't understand how people can make this argument in this day and age.

If you aren't going to part of the solution, just go away and be quiet.


1992 graduate from an MCPS HS here and absolutely no one dropped dead at my school resulting from a drug OD. This is very concerning and MCPS can certainly do more but they don't have the appetite to do it. Why? Because it would require more security. The bottom line is, there isn't enough security at the high schools. You need security assigned to monitor bathrooms and all doors to the building. I know for a fact that at our HS, which doesn't have open lunch, kids just walk out of the building during lunch and come back high. Another thing is that if you're caught doing drugs or are under the influence, there needs to be significant consequences. Another thing that MCPS doesn't want to do.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2023 13:48     Subject: Re:Not hyperbole: locked bathrooms and 8 uses of narcan in MCPS. Drug and alcohol use out of control

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where is Ed Clarke, MCPS's Chief Safety Officer?

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/directory/directory_Boxoffice.aspx?processlevel=40337

He has not uttered a peep or public statement in the midst of this fentanyl and student discipline crisis. Why does he hold this position if he chooses to remain silent?


+1 There’s now 11 overdoses IN MCPS schools which has been described as a crisis by local media outlets. This is a school safety issue and there should be measures to stop the sale and use of drugs in school.


They are not getting the drugs at school.


But they are using at school. And that's why we're advocating needs to be interrupted and prevented.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2023 13:48     Subject: Not hyperbole: locked bathrooms and 8 uses of narcan in MCPS. Drug and alcohol use out of control

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You sound completely deranged.


You sound completely out of touch with the current realities and the state of MCPS.

Students now ODing everywhere on hard drugs like opioids.

Ridiculous. Why am I paying taxes for this crap show?


I don't deny what is happening but how is your solution to blame MCPS? Do I think they are partially to blame given how long we were shut down? Absolutely but the fact that you are spinning this as a "what are they doing about this" is strange


It seems like a concerted fearmongering effort. This stuff was happening even at my W HS 30+ years ago. I wasn't personally interested but it was still going on even back then.


Were kids dropping dead from overdoses at your high school 30 years ago? I don't understand how people can make this argument in this day and age.

If you aren't going to part of the solution, just go away and be quiet.


Like pp saidI don't think any of this is anything new. It just being hyped


Show me the data and the news articles of kids overdosing and/or dying at schools at the same rate. I'll wait.


Here’s an article with data that show the increase:

https://wjla.com/amp/news/local/montgomery-county-schools-dangerous-spike-fentanyl-overdoses-blair-high-school-laced-percocet-training-narcan-nasal-spray-prescription-life-saving-medicine-drugs-substances-crime-opioid-crisis-mcps-maryland


I don't know if you're the PP....but that person claimed drug use is the same as it always has been and that those of us who are alarmed by the current data, which you just shared, are "fear mongering."


Drug use is not up. The article does not say drug use is up.

The drug of choice is different, tgat is the difference. Kids order pills off the internet now and die.


Correct. Hence why many of us are alarmed, while you claim we're "fear mongering."

There is some serious cognitive dissonance going on here....are you ok?
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2023 13:45     Subject: Not hyperbole: locked bathrooms and 8 uses of narcan in MCPS. Drug and alcohol use out of control

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You sound completely deranged.


You sound completely out of touch with the current realities and the state of MCPS.

Students now ODing everywhere on hard drugs like opioids.

Ridiculous. Why am I paying taxes for this crap show?


I don't deny what is happening but how is your solution to blame MCPS? Do I think they are partially to blame given how long we were shut down? Absolutely but the fact that you are spinning this as a "what are they doing about this" is strange


It seems like a concerted fearmongering effort. This stuff was happening even at my W HS 30+ years ago. I wasn't personally interested but it was still going on even back then.


Were kids dropping dead from overdoses at your high school 30 years ago? I don't understand how people can make this argument in this day and age.

If you aren't going to part of the solution, just go away and be quiet.


Like pp saidI don't think any of this is anything new. It just being hyped


Show me the data and the news articles of kids overdosing and/or dying at schools at the same rate. I'll wait.


Here’s an article with data that show the increase:

https://wjla.com/amp/news/local/montgomery-county-schools-dangerous-spike-fentanyl-overdoses-blair-high-school-laced-percocet-training-narcan-nasal-spray-prescription-life-saving-medicine-drugs-substances-crime-opioid-crisis-mcps-maryland


I don't know if you're the PP....but that person claimed drug use is the same as it always has been and that those of us who are alarmed by the current data, which you just shared, are "fear mongering."


Drug use is not up. The article does not say drug use is up.

The drug of choice is different, tgat is the difference. Kids order pills off the internet now and die.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2023 13:43     Subject: Re:Not hyperbole: locked bathrooms and 8 uses of narcan in MCPS. Drug and alcohol use out of control

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where is Ed Clarke, MCPS's Chief Safety Officer?

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/directory/directory_Boxoffice.aspx?processlevel=40337

He has not uttered a peep or public statement in the midst of this fentanyl and student discipline crisis. Why does he hold this position if he chooses to remain silent?


+1 There’s now 11 overdoses IN MCPS schools which has been described as a crisis by local media outlets. This is a school safety issue and there should be measures to stop the sale and use of drugs in school.


They are not getting the drugs at school.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2023 13:42     Subject: Not hyperbole: locked bathrooms and 8 uses of narcan in MCPS. Drug and alcohol use out of control

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You sound completely deranged.


You sound completely out of touch with the current realities and the state of MCPS.

Students now ODing everywhere on hard drugs like opioids.

Ridiculous. Why am I paying taxes for this crap show?


I don't deny what is happening but how is your solution to blame MCPS? Do I think they are partially to blame given how long we were shut down? Absolutely but the fact that you are spinning this as a "what are they doing about this" is strange


It seems like a concerted fearmongering effort. This stuff was happening even at my W HS 30+ years ago. I wasn't personally interested but it was still going on even back then.


Were kids dropping dead from overdoses at your high school 30 years ago? I don't understand how people can make this argument in this day and age.

If you aren't going to part of the solution, just go away and be quiet.


Like pp saidI don't think any of this is anything new. It just being hyped


Show me the data and the news articles of kids overdosing and/or dying at schools at the same rate. I'll wait.


Here’s an article with data that show the increase:

https://wjla.com/amp/news/local/montgomery-county-schools-dangerous-spike-fentanyl-overdoses-blair-high-school-laced-percocet-training-narcan-nasal-spray-prescription-life-saving-medicine-drugs-substances-crime-opioid-crisis-mcps-maryland


I don't know if you're the PP....but that person claimed drug use is the same as it always has been and that those of us who are alarmed by the current data, which you just shared, are "fear mongering."
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2023 13:40     Subject: Not hyperbole: locked bathrooms and 8 uses of narcan in MCPS. Drug and alcohol use out of control

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You sound completely deranged.


You sound completely out of touch with the current realities and the state of MCPS.

Students now ODing everywhere on hard drugs like opioids.

Ridiculous. Why am I paying taxes for this crap show?


I don't deny what is happening but how is your solution to blame MCPS? Do I think they are partially to blame given how long we were shut down? Absolutely but the fact that you are spinning this as a "what are they doing about this" is strange


It seems like a concerted fearmongering effort. This stuff was happening even at my W HS 30+ years ago. I wasn't personally interested but it was still going on even back then.


Were kids dropping dead from overdoses at your high school 30 years ago? I don't understand how people can make this argument in this day and age.

If you aren't going to part of the solution, just go away and be quiet.


Like pp saidI don't think any of this is anything new. It just being hyped


Show me the data and the news articles of kids overdosing and/or dying at schools at the same rate. I'll wait.


Here’s an article with data that show the increase:

https://wjla.com/amp/news/local/montgomery-county-schools-dangerous-spike-fentanyl-overdoses-blair-high-school-laced-percocet-training-narcan-nasal-spray-prescription-life-saving-medicine-drugs-substances-crime-opioid-crisis-mcps-maryland
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2023 13:33     Subject: Re:Not hyperbole: locked bathrooms and 8 uses of narcan in MCPS. Drug and alcohol use out of control

Anonymous wrote:Where is Ed Clarke, MCPS's Chief Safety Officer?

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/directory/directory_Boxoffice.aspx?processlevel=40337

He has not uttered a peep or public statement in the midst of this fentanyl and student discipline crisis. Why does he hold this position if he chooses to remain silent?


+1 There’s now 11 overdoses IN MCPS schools which has been described as a crisis by local media outlets. This is a school safety issue and there should be measures to stop the sale and use of drugs in school.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2023 13:24     Subject: Re:Not hyperbole: locked bathrooms and 8 uses of narcan in MCPS. Drug and alcohol use out of control

Where is Ed Clarke, MCPS's Chief Safety Officer?

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/directory/directory_Boxoffice.aspx?processlevel=40337

He has not uttered a peep or public statement in the midst of this fentanyl and student discipline crisis. Why does he hold this position if he chooses to remain silent?
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2023 13:17     Subject: Not hyperbole: locked bathrooms and 8 uses of narcan in MCPS. Drug and alcohol use out of control

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You sound completely deranged.


You sound completely out of touch with the current realities and the state of MCPS.

Students now ODing everywhere on hard drugs like opioids.

Ridiculous. Why am I paying taxes for this crap show?


I don't deny what is happening but how is your solution to blame MCPS? Do I think they are partially to blame given how long we were shut down? Absolutely but the fact that you are spinning this as a "what are they doing about this" is strange


Yes MCPS are to blame. Read the discussions in the links. Having controlled substances means nothing in terms of punishment in MCPS. In a sane world, any student caught with controlled substances would be immediately expelled. Lax drug and substance abuse policies are the fault of MCPS.


Increase security now. We need to bring back SROs.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2023 12:57     Subject: Not hyperbole: locked bathrooms and 8 uses of narcan in MCPS. Drug and alcohol use out of control

Anonymous wrote:You sound completely deranged.


+1
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2023 12:56     Subject: Not hyperbole: locked bathrooms and 8 uses of narcan in MCPS. Drug and alcohol use out of control

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You sound completely deranged.


You sound completely out of touch with the current realities and the state of MCPS.

Students now ODing everywhere on hard drugs like opioids.

Ridiculous. Why am I paying taxes for this crap show?


I don't deny what is happening but how is your solution to blame MCPS? Do I think they are partially to blame given how long we were shut down? Absolutely but the fact that you are spinning this as a "what are they doing about this" is strange


It seems like a concerted fearmongering effort. This stuff was happening even at my W HS 30+ years ago. I wasn't personally interested but it was still going on even back then.


Were kids dropping dead from overdoses at your high school 30 years ago? I don't understand how people can make this argument in this day and age.

If you aren't going to part of the solution, just go away and be quiet.


Like pp saidI don't think any of this is anything new. It just being hyped


Show me the data and the news articles of kids overdosing and/or dying at schools at the same rate. I'll wait.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2023 12:55     Subject: Not hyperbole: locked bathrooms and 8 uses of narcan in MCPS. Drug and alcohol use out of control

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You sound completely deranged.


You sound completely out of touch with the current realities and the state of MCPS.

Students now ODing everywhere on hard drugs like opioids.

Ridiculous. Why am I paying taxes for this crap show?


I don't deny what is happening but how is your solution to blame MCPS? Do I think they are partially to blame given how long we were shut down? Absolutely but the fact that you are spinning this as a "what are they doing about this" is strange


It seems like a concerted fearmongering effort. This stuff was happening even at my W HS 30+ years ago. I wasn't personally interested but it was still going on even back then.


Were kids dropping dead from overdoses at your high school 30 years ago? I don't understand how people can make this argument in this day and age.

If you aren't going to part of the solution, just go away and be quiet.


Like pp saidI don't think any of this is anything new. It just being hyped
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2023 12:53     Subject: Not hyperbole: locked bathrooms and 8 uses of narcan in MCPS. Drug and alcohol use out of control

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You sound completely deranged.


You sound completely out of touch with the current realities and the state of MCPS.

Students now ODing everywhere on hard drugs like opioids.

Ridiculous. Why am I paying taxes for this crap show?


I don't deny what is happening but how is your solution to blame MCPS? Do I think they are partially to blame given how long we were shut down? Absolutely but the fact that you are spinning this as a "what are they doing about this" is strange


It seems like a concerted fearmongering effort. This stuff was happening even at my W HS 30+ years ago. I wasn't personally interested but it was still going on even back then.


I didn't go to high school in MCPS, so not sure how it was 30 years ago. But, in my high school, in another state, kids were not smoking weed in the bathrooms at school. They smoked outside of the school, and elsewhere, but not IN the school bathrooms. And, the harder drugs were not as prevalent either.