Anonymous wrote:I am in florida. I moved for neither the taxes nor politics.

But i like living here; today, all the windows in my house are open, there's not a cloud in the sky, and it's 79'. a/c hasn't been on since probably late October. My kid goes to a nationally ranked public school. The people around us are nice, and everyone is happy.

Yeah, desantis sucks and the politics can suck. But i felt the same way living in DC for years, and i've always hated US politics (i'm an immigrant).

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in Tucson, where people are worried about water. I know 2 families who moved to central FL to escape our "impending crash when we dry up". They were both quasi-prepper families, retired with a lot of money. I wonder if this is the new place to be.

People who are worried about climate issues and move to Florida, of all places, befuddle me.

People who move to florida aren't causing climate issues. The two main climate issues facing florida are (i) rising sea levels (which can be easily managed by moving to a home well above sea level, and also is something that a lot of cities have time to plan around - like miami is raising certain streets that are prone to flooding and adding pumps to get rid of water when the tides come up) and (ii) hurricanes (which are unpredictable but can be managed, in that they happen rarely to any one area, and newer houses are able to withstand all but the worst hurricanes). Day to day living in lots of parts of florida meanwhile can be very attuned to nature, so a very good fit for outdoorsy people.

Compared with the west coast where water shortages and wildfires are becoming daily existences.

I didn't say they caused it. But if you are worried about the effects of climate change, there are lots of places to move besides Florida where it's less of an issue.

They are moving Florida for socio-political reasons or to dodge income taxes. Even if they are nominally “Democrats” in their previous life in NY or Bethesda.

Literally everyone we know who has moved to Florida in the past 5 years - both retirees and those with kids - moved to Florida for one of those two those reasons.

Anonymous wrote:I have heard people joke that Florida is the 6th borough of New York City.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a theory that the millions of little boys and girls who went on family vacations to Florida as children in the 1960s-1990s have all grown up dreaming of moving to Florida. They have to find out the hard way what a cesspool the place really is.

I went on vacation to Florida once at age 10. I grew up in upstate NY. It was a million degrees every day and humid, and downpoured nightly. Misery.

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Lots of people are moving to Florida every day, but lots of people are dying there every day too. I wonder what the net gain is?

In any case, it's all personal preference. Lots of people are snow birds and have another home. I know someone who found a very cheap mobile type home there and doesn't really care if it appreciates in value or not. She will probably use it during winters for the next 10 years or so before she becomes too old to keep going there. She still has her house up here. She didn't pay the big bucks for it.

Anonymous wrote:Moving to florida at this point in time is just a death sentance.

Why in the world would anyone do this?

It's not going to be cheaper. you will have no freedumbs etc...

Maga morons.

Anonymous wrote:Moving to florida at this point in time is just a death sentance.

Why in the world would anyone do this?

It's not going to be cheaper. you will have no freedumbs etc...

Maga morons.

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Anonymous wrote:Also we have the richest generation ever retiring.

My mother and MIL in NY were lower income widows.

NY reduces property tax on lower incomes and SS/Pension type income barely gets taxes at all. Both owned their small cheap to maintain starter homes outright.

Now compare this to my older brother near retrieve. He has almost 5 million in his 401ks he needs to do RMD on and around 5 million in stocks and two million bonds.

In retirement he still has a high income. Plus his NY house is big with high taxes and he in not eligible for reduced taxes when a senior due to income.

These people are going to keep coming, my brothers RMD will be $250k and his other stuff brings in $200k. He is making 450k in retirement or not.

It’s not only the richest generation; it’s also the largest generation to ever retire.

Post-Financial Crisis we had a lost decade of residential development. This country as a whole is short a few million housing units. That’s insane and the number of adults who turn 18 keeps increasing every year and far outstrips new residence construction. You now have Boomer retirees competing in the same housing market as Gen Z. And wealthy folks like your brother don’t want to be far from the areas with amenities, good doctors, good retail, etc. That happens to be the job centers where Gen Z, Millennials, and Gen X are trying to work and educate themselves/their kids.

Anywhere that has jobs or nice scenery/amenities or both are blowing up in price and will remain elevated. Why? Because we have a shortage of homes and we have pretty wide credit availability.

Anonymous wrote:I have a theory that the millions of little boys and girls who went on family vacations to Florida as children in the 1960s-1990s have all grown up dreaming of moving to Florida. They have to find out the hard way what a cesspool the place really is.

Anonymous wrote:I’m from rural Florida, a little backwater with not much going on and at least 1 hr drive to the nearest mall, no Starbucks in our entire county, etc. but we do have a Publix!

Anyways, I sold my parents 3 bed room ranch in 2014 when they died for $45k. Today Zillow says it’s worth $240k.

A home in my county, zoned for same schools as my parents house, but nicer and 4x the lot size just sold for $650k.

These numbers completely baffle me. We are not near the beach (at all; the coast line near us is all marsh, at least 1hr drive to any sand), there are no jobs there, biggest employers are the hospitals (Gods waiting room, natch) and the school system. No professional jobs other than Doctor or Teacher more or less.

I guess a doctor can spend $600k easy, and rural doctors do make more, and maybe a LOT of people moved for WFH (though schools are bad and there are no private schools, at all, I mean who could afford them until now?).

It’s just wild. I am just despairing we didn’t keep parents house, rent it out, and sell now — it best the NASDAQ!