Anonymous
01/27/2023 02:07
Subject: Re:Too many sick days!!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:White House nannies or similar. You’ll pay through the nose, but people are available.
This 100%
White House Nannie’s are expensive, though. I use Nanny Poppinz(they’re affordable)most of their caregivers have also been with WHN. Good luck!
This is a person who thinks paying someone $100 a DAY (for *how* many hours?) is a lot to pay for sick childcare, so this probably isn’t going to happen.
Anonymous
01/27/2023 01:32
Subject: Re:Too many sick days!!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Does your husband have an office type job? Does he have a private office?
If he's afraid to ask for time off, then tell him to bring the sick kid in with a sleeping bag and a tablet and the kid can sleep/rest in the sleeping bag and/or watch videos from the tablet. I know someone who was like that, who asked for leave, was refused and just brought her child with her to work and had him sleep in the office in the corner. The supervisor may become more lenient if they see him coming to work with the sick child. Or, if it doesn't affect his work having the child there, the supervisor may just look the other way.
So you and your friend think it is fine to bring your sick kid to the office and pass on his germs to other people I would have sent your friend home.
That was the point. The friend ASKED for leave but was refused. She would have preferred to be home on leave taking care of her child, but was denied. So, you sending her home would have been the same situation, only inconveniencing her by making her come in, sick child in tow, just to prove the point that it would have been better to have approved her leave request in the first place.
No, we don't think it is fine to bring the child in. But the employer did not give her an option when they refused her leave request.
You miss the point. I would have docked you and would make an immediate change to Employees 's handbook that children were not allowed in office due to liability issues.
If that's your attitude stop refusing someone using sick leave that they have accrued. You're a really lousy employer if you refuse to allow an employee to use accrued sick leave to tend to a sick child. In fact, if you docked the parent for doing that, you run the risk of being sued for discrimination. You cannot discriminate based on family composition, so you better be denying everyone asking to use accrued sick leave more than X days in the same 6 month period.
I'm terrified.
Anonymous
01/27/2023 01:15
Subject: Re:Too many sick days!!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Does your husband have an office type job? Does he have a private office?
If he's afraid to ask for time off, then tell him to bring the sick kid in with a sleeping bag and a tablet and the kid can sleep/rest in the sleeping bag and/or watch videos from the tablet. I know someone who was like that, who asked for leave, was refused and just brought her child with her to work and had him sleep in the office in the corner. The supervisor may become more lenient if they see him coming to work with the sick child. Or, if it doesn't affect his work having the child there, the supervisor may just look the other way.
So you and your friend think it is fine to bring your sick kid to the office and pass on his germs to other people I would have sent your friend home.
That was the point. The friend ASKED for leave but was refused. She would have preferred to be home on leave taking care of her child, but was denied. So, you sending her home would have been the same situation, only inconveniencing her by making her come in, sick child in tow, just to prove the point that it would have been better to have approved her leave request in the first place.
No, we don't think it is fine to bring the child in. But the employer did not give her an option when they refused her leave request.
You miss the point. I would have docked you and would make an immediate change to Employees 's handbook that children were not allowed in office due to liability issues.
If that's your attitude stop refusing someone using sick leave that they have accrued. You're a really lousy employer if you refuse to allow an employee to use accrued sick leave to tend to a sick child. In fact, if you docked the parent for doing that, you run the risk of being sued for discrimination. You cannot discriminate based on family composition, so you better be denying everyone asking to use accrued sick leave more than X days in the same 6 month period.
Anonymous
01/27/2023 01:01
Subject: Re:Too many sick days!!
Anonymous wrote:White House nannies or similar. You’ll pay through the nose, but people are available.
The majority of Nannie’s don’t want to work one off babysitting jobs with sick kids. Hello!! If I get sick, then I can’t work.
Anonymous
01/26/2023 20:17
Subject: Too many sick days!!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I added it up. Including a few doctors appointments that could not be scheduled at other times, I've missed 9 days combined from July through January including 4 days for the Flu for both of my kids.
It was 1 day July (kid), 1 day september (me), 4 hours combined appointments october + 4 days flu, December - 1/2 day kid, January 1 day me, 1 day kid.
That is not a lot at all! I would say that’s pretty average or even less than average for parents of multiple young kids.
9 days in six months is not a lot? If the next six months are similar it will be 18 days/year!
It is not a lot, no. People with young kids have to take a lot of sick time.
As a employer, I hire you to do a job and I count on you being available during business hours to do that job. Your lack of childcare whatever the reason, should not be my problem. Surely, OP must have known that children get colds and the flu, run a fever, etc., and should have found emergency childcare.
It
Well, parents also get sick. I’ve got rock solid, multi tiered plans for childcare even with sick kids. But this winter has hit ME (a 30something mom) extremely hard. I’ve never been this sick in my entire life and have had to take a day off nearly every week since October. The illnesses now aren’t just the sniffles-they are taking our family DOWN.
This is still not your employer's problem. You should have taken a week off to get well instead of a day every week since Oct. At this point, I would have had a long talk with you about all your sick leave and any more would be without pay and a doctor's note on your reason for taking so much time
I am running a business NOT a kindergarten.
I'm sure you are the type of boss who would go to work sick, infect all your employees and then yell at them for taking time off.0
No. I would and do not go to work sick and I encourage sick employees to take sick leave. But 9 days in 6 months for children bring sick is ridiculous.
Anyone who has children should know that the first ten years there will be a lot of colds, flu, normal childhood dresses and it should tell you that you need emergency childcare options.
That’s nice in theory but the list of people willing to watch a vomiting, feverish child is very, very short.
That's why mother's should find a job where they can work from home.
What about fathers?
Most of you complain bitterly about father's that you don't trust them so no wonder they don't even bother.
Anonymous
01/26/2023 17:58
Subject: Too many sick days!!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I added it up. Including a few doctors appointments that could not be scheduled at other times, I've missed 9 days combined from July through January including 4 days for the Flu for both of my kids.
It was 1 day July (kid), 1 day september (me), 4 hours combined appointments october + 4 days flu, December - 1/2 day kid, January 1 day me, 1 day kid.
That is not a lot at all! I would say that’s pretty average or even less than average for parents of multiple young kids.
9 days in six months is not a lot? If the next six months are similar it will be 18 days/year!
It is not a lot, no. People with young kids have to take a lot of sick time.
As a employer, I hire you to do a job and I count on you being available during business hours to do that job. Your lack of childcare whatever the reason, should not be my problem. Surely, OP must have known that children get colds and the flu, run a fever, etc., and should have found emergency childcare.
It
Well, parents also get sick. I’ve got rock solid, multi tiered plans for childcare even with sick kids. But this winter has hit ME (a 30something mom) extremely hard. I’ve never been this sick in my entire life and have had to take a day off nearly every week since October. The illnesses now aren’t just the sniffles-they are taking our family DOWN.
This is still not your employer's problem. You should have taken a week off to get well instead of a day every week since Oct. At this point, I would have had a long talk with you about all your sick leave and any more would be without pay and a doctor's note on your reason for taking so much time
I am running a business NOT a kindergarten.
I'm sure you are the type of boss who would go to work sick, infect all your employees and then yell at them for taking time off.0
No. I would and do not go to work sick and I encourage sick employees to take sick leave. But 9 days in 6 months for children bring sick is ridiculous.
Anyone who has children should know that the first ten years there will be a lot of colds, flu, normal childhood dresses and it should tell you that you need emergency childcare options.
That’s nice in theory but the list of people willing to watch a vomiting, feverish child is very, very short.
That's why mother's should find a job where they can work from home.
What about fathers?
Anonymous
01/26/2023 17:57
Subject: Too many sick days!!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I added it up. Including a few doctors appointments that could not be scheduled at other times, I've missed 9 days combined from July through January including 4 days for the Flu for both of my kids.
It was 1 day July (kid), 1 day september (me), 4 hours combined appointments october + 4 days flu, December - 1/2 day kid, January 1 day me, 1 day kid.
That is not a lot at all! I would say that’s pretty average or even less than average for parents of multiple young kids.
9 days in six months is not a lot? If the next six months are similar it will be 18 days/year!
It is not a lot, no. People with young kids have to take a lot of sick time.
As a employer, I hire you to do a job and I count on you being available during business hours to do that job. Your lack of childcare whatever the reason, should not be my problem. Surely, OP must have known that children get colds and the flu, run a fever, etc., and should have found emergency childcare.
It
Well, parents also get sick. I’ve got rock solid, multi tiered plans for childcare even with sick kids. But this winter has hit ME (a 30something mom) extremely hard. I’ve never been this sick in my entire life and have had to take a day off nearly every week since October. The illnesses now aren’t just the sniffles-they are taking our family DOWN.
This is still not your employer's problem. You should have taken a week off to get well instead of a day every week since Oct. At this point, I would have had a long talk with you about all your sick leave and any more would be without pay and a doctor's note on your reason for taking so much time
I am running a business NOT a kindergarten.
I'm sure you are the type of boss who would go to work sick, infect all your employees and then yell at them for taking time off.0
No. I would and do not go to work sick and I encourage sick employees to take sick leave. But 9 days in 6 months for children bring sick is ridiculous.
Anyone who has children should know that the first ten years there will be a lot of colds, flu, normal childhood dresses and it should tell you that you need emergency childcare options.
That’s nice in theory but the list of people willing to watch a vomiting, feverish child is very, very short.
That's why mother's should find a job where they can work from home.
Anonymous
01/26/2023 17:34
Subject: Too many sick days!!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I added it up. Including a few doctors appointments that could not be scheduled at other times, I've missed 9 days combined from July through January including 4 days for the Flu for both of my kids.
It was 1 day July (kid), 1 day september (me), 4 hours combined appointments october + 4 days flu, December - 1/2 day kid, January 1 day me, 1 day kid.
That is not a lot at all! I would say that’s pretty average or even less than average for parents of multiple young kids.
9 days in six months is not a lot? If the next six months are similar it will be 18 days/year!
It is not a lot, no. People with young kids have to take a lot of sick time.
As a employer, I hire you to do a job and I count on you being available during business hours to do that job. Your lack of childcare whatever the reason, should not be my problem. Surely, OP must have known that children get colds and the flu, run a fever, etc., and should have found emergency childcare.
It
Well, parents also get sick. I’ve got rock solid, multi tiered plans for childcare even with sick kids. But this winter has hit ME (a 30something mom) extremely hard. I’ve never been this sick in my entire life and have had to take a day off nearly every week since October. The illnesses now aren’t just the sniffles-they are taking our family DOWN.
This is still not your employer's problem. You should have taken a week off to get well instead of a day every week since Oct. At this point, I would have had a long talk with you about all your sick leave and any more would be without pay and a doctor's note on your reason for taking so much time
I am running a business NOT a kindergarten.
I'm sure you are the type of boss who would go to work sick, infect all your employees and then yell at them for taking time off.0
No. I would and do not go to work sick and I encourage sick employees to take sick leave. But 9 days in 6 months for children bring sick is ridiculous.
Anyone who has children should know that the first ten years there will be a lot of colds, flu, normal childhood dresses and it should tell you that you need emergency childcare options.
That’s nice in theory but the list of people willing to watch a vomiting, feverish child is very, very short.
Anonymous
01/26/2023 17:25
Subject: Re:Too many sick days!!
I disagree, I think sick leave should be sufficient for parents to take care of their own sick kids. I just do. Yes, I guess I'd prefer to live in Europe.
Anonymous
01/26/2023 17:11
Subject: Too many sick days!!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I added it up. Including a few doctors appointments that could not be scheduled at other times, I've missed 9 days combined from July through January including 4 days for the Flu for both of my kids.
It was 1 day July (kid), 1 day september (me), 4 hours combined appointments october + 4 days flu, December - 1/2 day kid, January 1 day me, 1 day kid.
That is not a lot at all! I would say that’s pretty average or even less than average for parents of multiple young kids.
9 days in six months is not a lot? If the next six months are similar it will be 18 days/year!
It is not a lot, no. People with young kids have to take a lot of sick time.
As a employer, I hire you to do a job and I count on you being available during business hours to do that job. Your lack of childcare whatever the reason, should not be my problem. Surely, OP must have known that children get colds and the flu, run a fever, etc., and should have found emergency childcare.
It
Well, parents also get sick. I’ve got rock solid, multi tiered plans for childcare even with sick kids. But this winter has hit ME (a 30something mom) extremely hard. I’ve never been this sick in my entire life and have had to take a day off nearly every week since October. The illnesses now aren’t just the sniffles-they are taking our family DOWN.
This is still not your employer's problem. You should have taken a week off to get well instead of a day every week since Oct. At this point, I would have had a long talk with you about all your sick leave and any more would be without pay and a doctor's note on your reason for taking so much time
I am running a business NOT a kindergarten.
I'm sure you are the type of boss who would go to work sick, infect all your employees and then yell at them for taking time off.0
No. I would and do not go to work sick and I encourage sick employees to take sick leave. But 9 days in 6 months for children bring sick is ridiculous.
Anyone who has children should know that the first ten years there will be a lot of colds, flu, normal childhood dresses and it should tell you that you need emergency childcare options.
Anonymous
01/26/2023 16:39
Subject: Too many sick days!!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I added it up. Including a few doctors appointments that could not be scheduled at other times, I've missed 9 days combined from July through January including 4 days for the Flu for both of my kids.
It was 1 day July (kid), 1 day september (me), 4 hours combined appointments october + 4 days flu, December - 1/2 day kid, January 1 day me, 1 day kid.
That is not a lot at all! I would say that’s pretty average or even less than average for parents of multiple young kids.
9 days in six months is not a lot? If the next six months are similar it will be 18 days/year!
It is not a lot, no. People with young kids have to take a lot of sick time.
As a employer, I hire you to do a job and I count on you being available during business hours to do that job. Your lack of childcare whatever the reason, should not be my problem. Surely, OP must have known that children get colds and the flu, run a fever, etc., and should have found emergency childcare.
It
Well, parents also get sick. I’ve got rock solid, multi tiered plans for childcare even with sick kids. But this winter has hit ME (a 30something mom) extremely hard. I’ve never been this sick in my entire life and have had to take a day off nearly every week since October. The illnesses now aren’t just the sniffles-they are taking our family DOWN.
This is still not your employer's problem. You should have taken a week off to get well instead of a day every week since Oct. At this point, I would have had a long talk with you about all your sick leave and any more would be without pay and a doctor's note on your reason for taking so much time
I am running a business NOT a kindergarten.
I'm sure you are the type of boss who would go to work sick, infect all your employees and then yell at them for taking time off.0
Anonymous
01/26/2023 15:59
Subject: Too many sick days!!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I added it up. Including a few doctors appointments that could not be scheduled at other times, I've missed 9 days combined from July through January including 4 days for the Flu for both of my kids.
It was 1 day July (kid), 1 day september (me), 4 hours combined appointments october + 4 days flu, December - 1/2 day kid, January 1 day me, 1 day kid.
That is not a lot at all! I would say that’s pretty average or even less than average for parents of multiple young kids.
9 days in six months is not a lot? If the next six months are similar it will be 18 days/year!
It is not a lot, no. People with young kids have to take a lot of sick time.
As a employer, I hire you to do a job and I count on you being available during business hours to do that job. Your lack of childcare whatever the reason, should not be my problem. Surely, OP must have known that children get colds and the flu, run a fever, etc., and should have found emergency childcare.
It
Well, parents also get sick. I’ve got rock solid, multi tiered plans for childcare even with sick kids. But this winter has hit ME (a 30something mom) extremely hard. I’ve never been this sick in my entire life and have had to take a day off nearly every week since October. The illnesses now aren’t just the sniffles-they are taking our family DOWN.
This is still not your employer's problem. You should have taken a week off to get well instead of a day every week since Oct. At this point, I would have had a long talk with you about all your sick leave and any more would be without pay and a doctor's note on your reason for taking so much time
I am running a business NOT a kindergarten.
Pp here who is sick all the time. I did actually take a full week off to get better. And still have gotten sick since.
Thankfully because I’ve been with my employer for years and historically have never been this sick, I have tons of sick time saved up so I don’t think there’s a lot they can do. They haven’t tried to tell me I can’t use it or threatened my job or anything.
Anonymous
01/26/2023 14:17
Subject: Too many sick days!!
Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately this is all of our future now that covid has damaged our immune systems. Welcome to the new normal
Stop blaming Covid for everything.
Anonymous
01/26/2023 14:16
Subject: Too many sick days!!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I added it up. Including a few doctors appointments that could not be scheduled at other times, I've missed 9 days combined from July through January including 4 days for the Flu for both of my kids.
It was 1 day July (kid), 1 day september (me), 4 hours combined appointments october + 4 days flu, December - 1/2 day kid, January 1 day me, 1 day kid.
That is not a lot at all! I would say that’s pretty average or even less than average for parents of multiple young kids.
9 days in six months is not a lot? If the next six months are similar it will be 18 days/year!
You would fire a nanny who had taken 9 sick days off in six months.
OP is a teacher. DCUM would be apoplectic if their little snowflakes had a teacher who was out 9 days during 6 months of teaching.
OMG Yes! They would be calling for her head and demanding that she be fired.
Anonymous
01/26/2023 14:14
Subject: Re:Too many sick days!!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Does your husband have an office type job? Does he have a private office?
If he's afraid to ask for time off, then tell him to bring the sick kid in with a sleeping bag and a tablet and the kid can sleep/rest in the sleeping bag and/or watch videos from the tablet. I know someone who was like that, who asked for leave, was refused and just brought her child with her to work and had him sleep in the office in the corner. The supervisor may become more lenient if they see him coming to work with the sick child. Or, if it doesn't affect his work having the child there, the supervisor may just look the other way.
So you and your friend think it is fine to bring your sick kid to the office and pass on his germs to other people I would have sent your friend home.
That was the point. The friend ASKED for leave but was refused. She would have preferred to be home on leave taking care of her child, but was denied. So, you sending her home would have been the same situation, only inconveniencing her by making her come in, sick child in tow, just to prove the point that it would have been better to have approved her leave request in the first place.
No, we don't think it is fine to bring the child in. But the employer did not give her an option when they refused her leave request.
You miss the point. I would have docked you and would make an immediate change to Employees 's handbook that children were not allowed in office due to liability issues.