I know you asked about a doodle but my family has goldens and they are the best dogs ever. So sweet and easy to train. Perfect family dogs. The shedding is not too bad either.

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Yes, it's great they are saying this to differentiate themselves from a true puppy mill, but it means...nothing. They are breeding off standard dogs, charging a fortune for them, and normalizing things like not seeing where your puppy is raised because apparently they couldn't figure out how to do safe meet and greets like literally every other breeder. They aren't the worst but why pay more for less? And where's the OFA testing? (Plus, uh, they make you promise to follow them on facebook when you submit your form, that's weird?)

Goldendoodles being an "off standard dog" is ridiculous if it's what you want. As for OFA testing, their website says:
We DNA test all our dogs through Embark Labs (or Paw Print Genetics) so that we can breed out hundreds of genetically inheritable diseases, such as Von Willebrand's disease, PRA, and Degenerative Myelopathy (see full list in our health warranty). Although hip/elbow Dysplasia can be caused by environmental factors, we also X-ray our adult dogs' hips and elbows to help prevent dysplasia. In addition, our adult dogs have certifications by the Orthopedic Foundation for Animals for normal cardiac, patella, eyes and thyroid.

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Anonymous wrote:Prejudice and prejdoodles. 2 experiences there and everything is top notch and so helpful.

Second this (it’s Pride and Prejidoodles). Us and our neighbor both have dogs from there. Great experience.

Given everything in this thread about how terribly unethical doodles are, it's truly amazing that people are selfish enough to continue to recommend buying one. Like at this point you have no excuse.

And I'm not saying you can't go to a breeder. I have a purebred and a rescue mutt. If allergies are a concern there are options that don't involve supporting the worst kind of bybs.

How is it unethical? If you want a rescue great, but not everyone does! I adopt kids, not dogs. Ethically one could argue you should not have biological kids and adopt.

Feel free to read through the rest of the thread for numerous answers to your question. Also, I specifically indicated that going to a ethical breeder is an option as well! It's paying for a poorly bred designer dog, bred for the wrong reasons (profit) that's the issue.

Not addressing adoption of kids vs dogs because that's a total non-sequitor.

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Anonymous wrote:Prejudice and prejdoodles. 2 experiences there and everything is top notch and so helpful.

Second this (it’s Pride and Prejidoodles). Us and our neighbor both have dogs from there. Great experience.

Given everything in this thread about how terribly unethical doodles are, it's truly amazing that people are selfish enough to continue to recommend buying one. Like at this point you have no excuse.

And I'm not saying you can't go to a breeder. I have a purebred and a rescue mutt. If allergies are a concern there are options that don't involve supporting the worst kind of bybs.

How is it unethical? If you want a rescue great, but not everyone does! I adopt kids, not dogs. Ethically one could argue you should not have biological kids and adopt.

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Anonymous wrote:Prejudice and prejdoodles. 2 experiences there and everything is top notch and so helpful.

Second this (it’s Pride and Prejidoodles). Us and our neighbor both have dogs from there. Great experience.

Given everything in this thread about how terribly unethical doodles are, it's truly amazing that people are selfish enough to continue to recommend buying one. Like at this point you have no excuse.

And I'm not saying you can't go to a breeder. I have a purebred and a rescue mutt. If allergies are a concern there are options that don't involve supporting the worst kind of bybs.

Exactly.

Just get a purebred dog.

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Anonymous wrote:Prejudice and prejdoodles. 2 experiences there and everything is top notch and so helpful.

Second this (it’s Pride and Prejidoodles). Us and our neighbor both have dogs from there. Great experience.

Given everything in this thread about how terribly unethical doodles are, it's truly amazing that people are selfish enough to continue to recommend buying one. Like at this point you have no excuse.

And I'm not saying you can't go to a breeder. I have a purebred and a rescue mutt. If allergies are a concern there are options that don't involve supporting the worst kind of bybs.

The one thing I'd like to see stats on before I'd get a Golden Doodle: is the cancer rate from Goldens getting golden doodles as well? Are those genes transferring older or is the cross breeding having a protective effect. I've known a few people whose Goldens died young from cancer.

The best evidence I can find is it does reduce cancer rates but it's preliminary.

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Anonymous wrote:Please consider adopting vs. being responsible for an innocent animal dying. See petfinder.org.

+1

It's so sad when people buy designer dogs from breeders when there are so many loving animals living in cages at shelters, many of whom will be killed.

This
I truly don’t understand it.

Why don’t you adopt a few more?

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Anonymous wrote:Please consider adopting vs. being responsible for an innocent animal dying. See petfinder.org.

+1

It's so sad when people buy designer dogs from breeders when there are so many loving animals living in cages at shelters, many of whom will be killed.

People should get the dog they want and can handle. Often dogs are returned because of behavior when people like you pressure others. Most shelter dogs are bigger and have fur. That was a no for us.

Anonymous wrote:Prejudice and prejdoodles. 2 experiences there and everything is top notch and so helpful.

Second this (it’s Pride and Prejidoodles). Us and our neighbor both have dogs from there. Great experience.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please consider adopting vs. being responsible for an innocent animal dying. See petfinder.org.

+1

It's so sad when people buy designer dogs from breeders when there are so many loving animals living in cages at shelters, many of whom will be killed.

This
I truly don’t understand it.

Anonymous wrote:Please consider adopting vs. being responsible for an innocent animal dying. See petfinder.org.

+1

It's so sad when people buy designer dogs from breeders when there are so many loving animals living in cages at shelters, many of whom will be killed.

Please consider adopting vs. being responsible for an innocent animal dying. See petfinder.org.

The functional breeding website linked above, is leverages expertise by the Goldendoodle Association of North America (GANA). I would note that Fox Creek Farm -- blasted by some on this forum -- is a member of GANA. from their website: Fox Creek Farm is the proud founder of this non-profit organization created to guide the development of the Goldendoodle and to track the lineage of every Goldendoodle

My point in mentioning this is that I think there is a whole range of breeders -- some do seem to be highly ethical. Those who simply denounce all breeders as "no good" are doing a disservice to those breeders who take the time to really try and be ethical breeders, as well as those would-be puppy buyers who wish to do their homework to find an ethical breeder. It encourages almost just "giving up." Just my two cents!

Check out the Functional Dog Collaborative.

https://functionalbreeding.org/

It's run by a Vet with a specialty in genetics and she has a lot of info on responsible mixed breeds. I don't have a doodle, but I have what's called an intentional outcross specifically bred for health and genetic diversity. They have some info on what to look for with doodles and even some kind of ethical doodle registry I think.