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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why they would plan to release the video late on a Friday. Makes sense for a white house press release they don't want to draw attention to, but if you are worried about protests that could get violent Friday afternoon seems like the worst possible time.

I don't think releasing the video on a Tuesday afternoon would be any better.

If people are scheduled to be at work at 9am Wednesday, they’re less likely to be out protesting (with potential for things to go off the rails) in the wee hours of Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. Friday night, people often stay out late because it’s the start of the weekend, the. There’s a whole weekend for protesting and possibilities. I’m hopeful that the way it’s being handled so far will let people feel heard and hopefully everyone stays safe.

The people who work at 9AM on Wednesdays are typically not the people protesting. They're the ones whose lives the protestors are trying to disrupt.

As horrific as this video is described to be, and as often as crimes like this are swept under the rug, I'm guessing it's going to enrage and motivate a lot of people to want to bring about change.

Also, why do you think protesters don't have day jobs? Would you care to explain what you mean?

Exactly what change do people want?

I want police officers with college degrees, adequate training, and the pay to match. I do not want HS drop off bullies who got kicked out of the military thinking they are God of the Universe and above reproach.

With psychological background check.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting how when the cops are black, decisive action is taken immediately. Let’s remember this when a white cop kills someone and the “investigation” drags on for months.

Interesting how you haven't realized that this is actually evidence that change is happening - that is proof that things get better and that people can make change happen.

I'll believe change is happening the first time a white cop is investigated and charged within a month of the incident.

But not a black cop?

They are already fired and arrested within a month.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why they would plan to release the video late on a Friday. Makes sense for a white house press release they don't want to draw attention to, but if you are worried about protests that could get violent Friday afternoon seems like the worst possible time.

I don't think releasing the video on a Tuesday afternoon would be any better.

If people are scheduled to be at work at 9am Wednesday, they’re less likely to be out protesting (with potential for things to go off the rails) in the wee hours of Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. Friday night, people often stay out late because it’s the start of the weekend, the. There’s a whole weekend for protesting and possibilities. I’m hopeful that the way it’s being handled so far will let people feel heard and hopefully everyone stays safe.

The people who work at 9AM on Wednesdays are typically not the people protesting. They're the ones whose lives the protestors are trying to disrupt.

As horrific as this video is described to be, and as often as crimes like this are swept under the rug, I'm guessing it's going to enrage and motivate a lot of people to want to bring about change.

Also, why do you think protesters don't have day jobs? Would you care to explain what you mean?

Exactly what change do people want?

I want police officers with college degrees, adequate training, and the pay to match. I do not want HS drop off bullies who got kicked out of the military thinking they are God of the Universe and above reproach.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting how when the cops are black, decisive action is taken immediately. Let’s remember this when a white cop kills someone and the “investigation” drags on for months.

Interesting how you haven't realized that this is actually evidence that change is happening - that is proof that things get better and that people can make change happen.

I'll believe change is happening the first time a white cop is investigated and charged within a month of the incident.

But not a black cop?

Are you asserting that racism is at play for the black cops? This ought to be good..

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You are right, it's about culture AND accountability. There is a vast difference between crappy departments like Detroit and very good departments like Phoenix.

There are so many people out there saying things like "all cops are bastards," so there's clearly not much upside to being one of the better departments. You'll get tarred with the same brush, regardless.

This. We have a couple great departments in this region, and each is currently facing severe shortages. Nobody wants the job, even in the stronger departments. The existing police are retiring in rapid numbers because of increased workload and lower morale.

We want good cops, but we penalize them for simply wanting to be cops.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why they would plan to release the video late on a Friday. Makes sense for a white house press release they don't want to draw attention to, but if you are worried about protests that could get violent Friday afternoon seems like the worst possible time.

I don't think releasing the video on a Tuesday afternoon would be any better.

If people are scheduled to be at work at 9am Wednesday, they’re less likely to be out protesting (with potential for things to go off the rails) in the wee hours of Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. Friday night, people often stay out late because it’s the start of the weekend, the. There’s a whole weekend for protesting and possibilities. I’m hopeful that the way it’s being handled so far will let people feel heard and hopefully everyone stays safe.

The people who work at 9AM on Wednesdays are typically not the people protesting. They're the ones whose lives the protestors are trying to disrupt.

As horrific as this video is described to be, and as often as crimes like this are swept under the rug, I'm guessing it's going to enrage and motivate a lot of people to want to bring about change.

Also, why do you think protesters don't have day jobs? Would you care to explain what you mean?

Exactly what change do people want?

I personally, as a family member of many police officers would like a way for a cop to report bad cops without retaliation. Good cops can report bad cops in the current system.

Do you know what "thin blue line" is? Do you know what "blue lives matters" means.

it means snitches get stiches or at least no backup.

What if victims could sue police unions for compensatory damages? Would that change the culture?

I don't think collective guilt is the answer.

Why not? Perhaps bad cops would get dismissed a lot sooner if everyone had some skin in the game.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting how when the cops are black, decisive action is taken immediately. Let’s remember this when a white cop kills someone and the “investigation” drags on for months.

Interesting how you haven't realized that this is actually evidence that change is happening - that is proof that things get better and that people can make change happen.

I'll believe change is happening the first time a white cop is investigated and charged within a month of the incident.

But not a black cop?

I think part of the PP's underlying contention is that police are awful because of racism and so it doesn't count if black cops are brought to justice quickly when they brutalize citizens.

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You are right, it's about culture AND accountability. There is a vast difference between crappy departments like Detroit and very good departments like Phoenix.

There are so many people out there saying things like "all cops are bastards," so there's clearly not much upside to being one of the better departments. You'll get tarred with the same brush, regardless.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why they would plan to release the video late on a Friday. Makes sense for a white house press release they don't want to draw attention to, but if you are worried about protests that could get violent Friday afternoon seems like the worst possible time.

I don't think releasing the video on a Tuesday afternoon would be any better.

If people are scheduled to be at work at 9am Wednesday, they’re less likely to be out protesting (with potential for things to go off the rails) in the wee hours of Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. Friday night, people often stay out late because it’s the start of the weekend, the. There’s a whole weekend for protesting and possibilities. I’m hopeful that the way it’s being handled so far will let people feel heard and hopefully everyone stays safe.

The people who work at 9AM on Wednesdays are typically not the people protesting. They're the ones whose lives the protestors are trying to disrupt.

As horrific as this video is described to be, and as often as crimes like this are swept under the rug, I'm guessing it's going to enrage and motivate a lot of people to want to bring about change.

Also, why do you think protesters don't have day jobs? Would you care to explain what you mean?

Exactly what change do people want?

I personally, as a family member of many police officers would like a way for a cop to report bad cops without retaliation. Good cops can report bad cops in the current system.

Do you know what "thin blue line" is? Do you know what "blue lives matters" means.

it means snitches get stiches or at least no backup.

What if victims could sue police unions for compensatory damages? Would that change the culture?

I don't think collective guilt is the answer.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting how when the cops are black, decisive action is taken immediately. Let’s remember this when a white cop kills someone and the “investigation” drags on for months.

Interesting how you haven't realized that this is actually evidence that change is happening - that is proof that things get better and that people can make change happen.

I'll believe change is happening the first time a white cop is investigated and charged within a month of the incident.

But not a black cop?

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Anonymous wrote:the video is horrific.

republicans are out in force all over social media stoking violence.
From gun boards, rumble to Truth Social they are out of their dam minds.

I fail to see how a bunch of republicans are able to influence black people to go out and commit violence in the name of protest. Can you please explain how that’s possible in your mind? I’m really trying to understand your thought process which arrived at this conclusion. Can you please elaborate?

They're stoking violence among themselves: to go out and try to provoke violence or stir up trouble or attack protestors, or to pretend to be "antifa" and commit violent acts to discredit the protests, etc. This is a documented thing:

https://www.justice.gov/usao-mn/pr/self-described-member-boogaloo-bois-pleads-guilty-riot

https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/07/28/896515022/minneapolis-police-reportedly-identify-viral-umbrella-man-as-white-supremacist

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/06/12/idaho-patriot-front-arrested/

Documented and extremely limited. Brought to you by Washington Post at NPR.

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Anonymous wrote:the video is horrific.

republicans are out in force all over social media stoking violence.
From gun boards, rumble to Truth Social they are out of their dam minds.

I fail to see how a bunch of republicans are able to influence black people to go out and commit violence in the name of protest. Can you please explain how that’s possible in your mind? I’m really trying to understand your thought process which arrived at this conclusion. Can you please elaborate?

They're stoking violence among themselves: to go out and try to provoke violence or stir up trouble or attack protestors, or to pretend to be "antifa" and commit violent acts to discredit the protests, etc. This is a documented thing:

https://www.justice.gov/usao-mn/pr/self-described-member-boogaloo-bois-pleads-guilty-riot

https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/07/28/896515022/minneapolis-police-reportedly-identify-viral-umbrella-man-as-white-supremacist

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/06/12/idaho-patriot-front-arrested/

Ah… like in Georgia last week. Gotcha.

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Anonymous wrote:the video is horrific.

republicans are out in force all over social media stoking violence.
From gun boards, rumble to Truth Social they are out of their dam minds.

I fail to see how a bunch of republicans are able to influence black people to go out and commit violence in the name of protest. Can you please explain how that’s possible in your mind? I’m really trying to understand your thought process which arrived at this conclusion. Can you please elaborate?

They're stoking violence among themselves: to go out and try to provoke violence or stir up trouble or attack protestors, or to pretend to be "antifa" and commit violent acts to discredit the protests, etc. This is a documented thing:

https://www.justice.gov/usao-mn/pr/self-described-member-boogaloo-bois-pleads-guilty-riot

https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/07/28/896515022/minneapolis-police-reportedly-identify-viral-umbrella-man-as-white-supremacist

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/06/12/idaho-patriot-front-arrested/

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why they would plan to release the video late on a Friday. Makes sense for a white house press release they don't want to draw attention to, but if you are worried about protests that could get violent Friday afternoon seems like the worst possible time.

I don't think releasing the video on a Tuesday afternoon would be any better.

If people are scheduled to be at work at 9am Wednesday, they’re less likely to be out protesting (with potential for things to go off the rails) in the wee hours of Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. Friday night, people often stay out late because it’s the start of the weekend, the. There’s a whole weekend for protesting and possibilities. I’m hopeful that the way it’s being handled so far will let people feel heard and hopefully everyone stays safe.

The people who work at 9AM on Wednesdays are typically not the people protesting. They're the ones whose lives the protestors are trying to disrupt.

As horrific as this video is described to be, and as often as crimes like this are swept under the rug, I'm guessing it's going to enrage and motivate a lot of people to want to bring about change.

Also, why do you think protesters don't have day jobs? Would you care to explain what you mean?

Exactly what change do people want?

I personally, as a family member of many police officers would like a way for a cop to report bad cops without retaliation. Good cops can report bad cops in the current system.

Do you know what "thin blue line" is? Do you know what "blue lives matters" means.

it means snitches get stiches or at least no backup.

This. I have two female family members who are LEOs (one sibling, one cousin) who have to put up with a lot of BS you don’t want to know about. But reporting misconduct would jeopardize their safety. It shouldn’t be that way but it is

How do we change this? Have any departments successfully changed the culture so that good cops can stand together against the ones that need to go?

You are right, it's about culture AND accountability. There is a vast difference between crappy departments like Detroit and very good departments like Phoenix. Just FYI, it's not as bad as the public thinks, as the only videos you see are the bad ones.

Also, some officers can have a really good reputation and then one day they make a tactical mistake that costs someone their life. It's usually not one of those things that is foreseeable. Another thing you are up against is the fact that very few people want to be police officers, so you have a bunch of unqualified people who are usually employed in the worse departments because they were rejected by the better dept's.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting how when the cops are black, decisive action is taken immediately. Let’s remember this when a white cop kills someone and the “investigation” drags on for months.

Interesting how you haven't realized that this is actually evidence that change is happening - that is proof that things get better and that people can make change happen.

I'll believe change is happening the first time a white cop is investigated and charged within a month of the incident.