Anonymous wrote:Wow. So I guess this is gonna be a weekly occurrence. Where is MCPS security? They are failing.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. So I guess this is gonna be a weekly occurrence. Where is MCPS security? They are failing.

+1 good lord. All this RJ, social emotional learning, "we don't need SROs" seem to be doing jacksh1t.

-RM parent whose kids just experienced this last week.

Well look, you didn’t need an SRO. The real cops handled it just like they should.

SROs are real cops, too, and they would be in the school rather than school having to call the police which takes time. They are trained to assess risk and deal with someone with a gun better than administrators or security guards.

And since you didn't address the other part of my statement, I guess you agree: RJ and social emotional learning is BS. Get rid of it, and focus on the real issues. Huge achievement gap, violence in schools against students and staff.

Assuming SRO’s are like any cop is like saying any cop can do SWAT or murder investigations. No not all cops are the same.

SRO s are not trained to assess anything, they have literally never stopped an incident from occurring.ever.

RJ works for some and not for others. Principals need to be able to expel and moco needs to stop moving bad kids around. But that’s not new. In 1997 moco move Sheinbein from a W school to Kennedy and he killed someone’s and dismembered them.

I’ve seen this nonsense on DCUM before. I’ve also responded to it by saying I have personally witnessed SROs stopping incidents, including one involving a knife in my classroom. Your statement that they “literally never stopped” anything is very, very false.

We’ve also posted plenty of information about their training. It is true that all cops aren’t the same. SROs actually attend MORE training to prepare for school placements.

You may not like them, and that’s fine. You just can’t make up stuff and pass it off as fact.

I’ve responded to you before and you are lying.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. So I guess this is gonna be a weekly occurrence. Where is MCPS security? They are failing.

+1 good lord. All this RJ, social emotional learning, "we don't need SROs" seem to be doing jacksh1t.

-RM parent whose kids just experienced this last week.

Well look, you didn’t need an SRO. The real cops handled it just like they should.

SROs are real cops, too, and they would be in the school rather than school having to call the police which takes time. They are trained to assess risk and deal with someone with a gun better than administrators or security guards.

And since you didn't address the other part of my statement, I guess you agree: RJ and social emotional learning is BS. Get rid of it, and focus on the real issues. Huge achievement gap, violence in schools against students and staff.

Assuming SRO’s are like any cop is like saying any cop can do SWAT or murder investigations. No not all cops are the same.

SRO s are not trained to assess anything, they have literally never stopped an incident from occurring.ever.

RJ works for some and not for others. Principals need to be able to expel and moco needs to stop moving bad kids around. But that’s not new. In 1997 moco move Sheinbein from a W school to Kennedy and he killed someone’s and dismembered them.

I’ve seen this nonsense on DCUM before. I’ve also responded to it by saying I have personally witnessed SROs stopping incidents, including one involving a knife in my classroom. Your statement that they “literally never stopped” anything is very, very false.

We’ve also posted plenty of information about their training. It is true that all cops aren’t the same. SROs actually attend MORE training to prepare for school placements.

You may not like them, and that’s fine. You just can’t make up stuff and pass it off as fact.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. So I guess this is gonna be a weekly occurrence. Where is MCPS security? They are failing.

+1 good lord. All this RJ, social emotional learning, "we don't need SROs" seem to be doing jacksh1t.

-RM parent whose kids just experienced this last week.

Well look, you didn’t need an SRO. The real cops handled it just like they should.

SROs are real cops, too, and they would be in the school rather than school having to call the police which takes time. They are trained to assess risk and deal with someone with a gun better than administrators or security guards.

And since you didn't address the other part of my statement, I guess you agree: RJ and social emotional learning is BS. Get rid of it, and focus on the real issues. Huge achievement gap, violence in schools against students and staff.

An SRO wouldn't have handled this situation alone, they would have waited for backup. If they're trained to assess risk, they wouldn't approach a potentially volatile student who may be hiding a weapon, especially in a classroom full of students. Exactly the same response would have been implemented.

Maybe the SRO would have been on the scene to direct officers when they arrived, but my kid would still have been locked down into her science classroom for half an hour, then marched out with her hands on her head, with police officers on either side of the single-file line. (yes, that's what happened today) Officers still would have gone into the art classroom, guns drawn, to apprehend the suspect. No way an SRO's presence changes a thing today.

I'm not saying SROs don't do some good in certain circumstances, but it wouldn't have made a difference in a situation like today's.

No, but SROs can build relationships with students, hear about what's going on, and act as a deterrent.

Criminals generally don't commit crimes when a cop is present in the building.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. So I guess this is gonna be a weekly occurrence. Where is MCPS security? They are failing.

+1 good lord. All this RJ, social emotional learning, "we don't need SROs" seem to be doing jacksh1t.

-RM parent whose kids just experienced this last week.

Well look, you didn’t need an SRO. The real cops handled it just like they should.

SROs are real cops, too, and they would be in the school rather than school having to call the police which takes time. They are trained to assess risk and deal with someone with a gun better than administrators or security guards.

And since you didn't address the other part of my statement, I guess you agree: RJ and social emotional learning is BS. Get rid of it, and focus on the real issues. Huge achievement gap, violence in schools against students and staff.

Assuming SRO’s are like any cop is like saying any cop can do SWAT or murder investigations. No not all cops are the same.

SRO s are not trained to assess anything, they have literally never stopped an incident from occurring.ever.

RJ works for some and not for others. Principals need to be able to expel and moco needs to stop moving bad kids around. But that’s not new. In 1997 moco move Sheinbein from a W school to Kennedy and he killed someone’s and dismembered them.

I’ve seen this nonsense on DCUM before. I’ve also responded to it by saying I have personally witnessed SROs stopping incidents, including one involving a knife in my classroom. Your statement that they “literally never stopped” anything is very, very false.

We’ve also posted plenty of information about their training. It is true that all cops aren’t the same. SROs actually attend MORE training to prepare for school placements.

You may not like them, and that’s fine. You just can’t make up stuff and pass it off as fact.

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Anonymous wrote:they just lifted it. my kids inside. says officers releasing classes. someone had a gun in art class is what kids are saying

This is terrifying. There is no barrier or deterrence to prevent kids from bringing weapons on school grounds. Why is everyone ok with this?

We go through screening at the airport to avoid this stuff but despite countless incidents at schools, we continue to let it be a free-for-all. I guess they're waiting for enough kids to die or get hurt before they do something drastic. Even though Magruder already happened on MCPS's watch.

Wrong. There are laws, and they generally work. No need to overreact to a single rumor (which is what this is so far).

A single rumor? Are you paying attention?

Last week, Richard Montgomery was on lockdown for this same issue.

Wheaton had a gun brought on campus: https://wjla.com/news/local/wheaton-high-school-bb-gun-montgomery-county-police-loaded-handgun-marijuana-backpack-teen-student

Blair G. Ewing Center (an alternative MCPS high school): https://wjla.com/news/local/montgomery-county-public-schools-blair-ewing-center-student-brought-handgun-ammunition-bullets-found-police-sro-resource-officers

Uninvited student apprehended at Bethesda MS: https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/12/27/uninvited-student-apprehended-at-north-bethesda-ms/

BB Gun shooting at Silver Spring International Middle School: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/7th-grader-shot-in-thigh-by-classmate-with-bb-gun-in-silver-spring-maryland/65-e231537c-2570-4705-be1b-3d82913b6bba

BB Guns at Walter Johnson and Magruder: https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/03/24/bb-guns-recovered-at-magruder-walter-johnson-high-schools/

Blair lockdown: https://mocoshow.com/blog/blair-lockdown-lifted-following-report-of-weapon-outside-on-school-property/

Stabbing at Blair High School: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/crime/stabbing-outside-high-school-shelter-in-place-montgomery-blair-high-school/65-ad2874d3-284b-4e94-be02-cfc375daaf54

But yeah.....the laws are working and we're overreacting to a single rumor. That math makes sense to you.

Lol, that was 1 week at RM alone in the 70’s and 80’s

The sky is falling, the sky is falling.

So you're not bothered. Noted.

The rest of us who care about our kids' wellbeing and have a moral code will continue the discussion.

I am bothered but I also don’t think the sky is falling,

You seem to lack moral codes actually.

You're talking out of both sides of your mouth. You're bothered but your response to back-to-back high school lockdowns and a laundry list of violent or threatening incidents in MCPS is that it was like this or even worse in the 70s or 80s. You're a horrible person.

Dp. I went to Einstein in the 80's. A friend of mine brought a gun to school. It was in her locker and she showed it to me. Someone must have seen it, too, because my friend was later quietly removed from class and I never saw her again. My nephew goes to Einstein and he said there was a lockdown and a classroom was raided to arrest a student who brought a gun to school. He showed me texts from classes where they tilted tables and hid behind them. I'm not going to say which way was better, but very few children were affected, let alone knew about the gun when I was a student. Of course, no one had a cell phone then.

To be fair back in the 80s even if someone brought a gun to school the concept that the person with the gun would go through the school and just start opening fire was unheard of. Present day, you hear gun in school and your first thought is there is going to be an active shooter.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. So I guess this is gonna be a weekly occurrence. Where is MCPS security? They are failing.

+1 good lord. All this RJ, social emotional learning, "we don't need SROs" seem to be doing jacksh1t.

-RM parent whose kids just experienced this last week.

Well look, you didn’t need an SRO. The real cops handled it just like they should.

SROs are real cops, too, and they would be in the school rather than school having to call the police which takes time. They are trained to assess risk and deal with someone with a gun better than administrators or security guards.

And since you didn't address the other part of my statement, I guess you agree: RJ and social emotional learning is BS. Get rid of it, and focus on the real issues. Huge achievement gap, violence in schools against students and staff.

Assuming SRO’s are like any cop is like saying any cop can do SWAT or murder investigations. No not all cops are the same.

SRO s are not trained to assess anything, they have literally never stopped an incident from occurring.ever.

RJ works for some and not for others. Principals need to be able to expel and moco needs to stop moving bad kids around. But that’s not new. In 1997 moco move Sheinbein from a W school to Kennedy and he killed someone’s and dismembered them.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. So I guess this is gonna be a weekly occurrence. Where is MCPS security? They are failing.

+1 good lord. All this RJ, social emotional learning, "we don't need SROs" seem to be doing jacksh1t.

-RM parent whose kids just experienced this last week.

Well look, you didn’t need an SRO. The real cops handled it just like they should.

SROs are real cops, too, and they would be in the school rather than school having to call the police which takes time. They are trained to assess risk and deal with someone with a gun better than administrators or security guards.

And since you didn't address the other part of my statement, I guess you agree: RJ and social emotional learning is BS. Get rid of it, and focus on the real issues. Huge achievement gap, violence in schools against students and staff.

Assuming SRO’s are like any cop is like saying any cop can do SWAT or murder investigations. No not all cops are the same.

SRO s are not trained to assess anything, they have literally never stopped an incident from occurring.ever.

RJ works for some and not for others. Principals need to be able to expel and moco needs to stop moving bad kids around. But that’s not new. In 1997 moco move Sheinbein from a W school to Kennedy and he killed someone’s and dismembered them.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. So I guess this is gonna be a weekly occurrence. Where is MCPS security? They are failing.

+1 good lord. All this RJ, social emotional learning, "we don't need SROs" seem to be doing jacksh1t.

-RM parent whose kids just experienced this last week.

Well look, you didn’t need an SRO. The real cops handled it just like they should.

SROs are real cops, too, and they would be in the school rather than school having to call the police which takes time. They are trained to assess risk and deal with someone with a gun better than administrators or security guards.

And since you didn't address the other part of my statement, I guess you agree: RJ and social emotional learning is BS. Get rid of it, and focus on the real issues. Huge achievement gap, violence in schools against students and staff.

An SRO wouldn't have handled this situation alone, they would have waited for backup. If they're trained to assess risk, they wouldn't approach a potentially volatile student who may be hiding a weapon, especially in a classroom full of students. Exactly the same response would have been implemented.

Maybe the SRO would have been on the scene to direct officers when they arrived, but my kid would still have been locked down into her science classroom for half an hour, then marched out with her hands on her head, with police officers on either side of the single-file line. (yes, that's what happened today) Officers still would have gone into the art classroom, guns drawn, to apprehend the suspect. No way an SRO's presence changes a thing today.

I'm not saying SROs don't do some good in certain circumstances, but it wouldn't have made a difference in a situation like today's.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. So I guess this is gonna be a weekly occurrence. Where is MCPS security? They are failing.

+1 good lord. All this RJ, social emotional learning, "we don't need SROs" seem to be doing jacksh1t.

-RM parent whose kids just experienced this last week.

Well look, you didn’t need an SRO. The real cops handled it just like they should.

SROs are real cops, too, and they would be in the school rather than school having to call the police which takes time. They are trained to assess risk and deal with someone with a gun better than administrators or security guards.

And since you didn't address the other part of my statement, I guess you agree: RJ and social emotional learning is BS. Get rid of it, and focus on the real issues. Huge achievement gap, violence in schools against students and staff.

Assuming SRO’s are like any cop is like saying any cop can do SWAT or murder investigations. No not all cops are the same.

SRO s are not trained to assess anything, they have literally never stopped an incident from occurring.ever.

RJ works for some and not for others. Principals need to be able to expel and moco needs to stop moving bad kids around. But that’s not new. In 1997 moco move Sheinbein from a W school to Kennedy and he killed someone’s and dismembered them.

BS they stopped a kid in Clarksburg

https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2018/02/md-school-resource-officer-shares-lessons-learned-after-student-brought-handgun/

SROs are trained better than administrators or security guards.

RJ is stupid. Get rid of it. It's not doing anything. Do you have *any* proof that it's working in MCPS? I don't think so because if it did, I'm pretty sure the pro-RJ contingent would be publicizing it like Jesus is coming back.

No The SRO did not stop the Clarksburg kid. He brought a gun to school, a student told the secretary, the secretary told the SRO, they called the real cops the real cops handle that.

You can publicize RJ because you would be public ally displaying discipline. We should bring back Scarlet A’s. 😂

Melott searched Chen to make sure he didn’t have any other weapons on him. The school resource officer then asked Chen if there was anything in his bookbag. That was when Chen admitted that he had a handgun in the bag.

“I went in the bag, found the weapon — it was in a soft, zipper handgun case — verified that it was indeed a handgun, and then basically made the arrest there,” Melott said.

He added that his time at Clarksburg has helped him build a rapport with the students and that it was important to have that connection so the students know he is there to protect them.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. So I guess this is gonna be a weekly occurrence. Where is MCPS security? They are failing.

+1 good lord. All this RJ, social emotional learning, "we don't need SROs" seem to be doing jacksh1t.

-RM parent whose kids just experienced this last week.

Well look, you didn’t need an SRO. The real cops handled it just like they should.

SROs are real cops, too, and they would be in the school rather than school having to call the police which takes time. They are trained to assess risk and deal with someone with a gun better than administrators or security guards.

And since you didn't address the other part of my statement, I guess you agree: RJ and social emotional learning is BS. Get rid of it, and focus on the real issues. Huge achievement gap, violence in schools against students and staff.

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Anonymous wrote:they just lifted it. my kids inside. says officers releasing classes. someone had a gun in art class is what kids are saying

This is terrifying. There is no barrier or deterrence to prevent kids from bringing weapons on school grounds. Why is everyone ok with this?

We go through screening at the airport to avoid this stuff but despite countless incidents at schools, we continue to let it be a free-for-all. I guess they're waiting for enough kids to die or get hurt before they do something drastic. Even though Magruder already happened on MCPS's watch.

Wrong. There are laws, and they generally work. No need to overreact to a single rumor (which is what this is so far).

A single rumor? Are you paying attention?

Last week, Richard Montgomery was on lockdown for this same issue.

Wheaton had a gun brought on campus: https://wjla.com/news/local/wheaton-high-school-bb-gun-montgomery-county-police-loaded-handgun-marijuana-backpack-teen-student

Blair G. Ewing Center (an alternative MCPS high school): https://wjla.com/news/local/montgomery-county-public-schools-blair-ewing-center-student-brought-handgun-ammunition-bullets-found-police-sro-resource-officers

Uninvited student apprehended at Bethesda MS: https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/12/27/uninvited-student-apprehended-at-north-bethesda-ms/

BB Gun shooting at Silver Spring International Middle School: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/7th-grader-shot-in-thigh-by-classmate-with-bb-gun-in-silver-spring-maryland/65-e231537c-2570-4705-be1b-3d82913b6bba

BB Guns at Walter Johnson and Magruder: https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/03/24/bb-guns-recovered-at-magruder-walter-johnson-high-schools/

Blair lockdown: https://mocoshow.com/blog/blair-lockdown-lifted-following-report-of-weapon-outside-on-school-property/

Stabbing at Blair High School: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/crime/stabbing-outside-high-school-shelter-in-place-montgomery-blair-high-school/65-ad2874d3-284b-4e94-be02-cfc375daaf54

But yeah.....the laws are working and we're overreacting to a single rumor. That math makes sense to you.

Lol, that was 1 week at RM alone in the 70’s and 80’s

The sky is falling, the sky is falling.

So you're not bothered. Noted.

The rest of us who care about our kids' wellbeing and have a moral code will continue the discussion.

I am bothered but I also don’t think the sky is falling,

You seem to lack moral codes actually.

You're talking out of both sides of your mouth. You're bothered but your response to back-to-back high school lockdowns and a laundry list of violent or threatening incidents in MCPS is that it was like this or even worse in the 70s or 80s. You're a horrible person.

Dp. I went to Einstein in the 80's. A friend of mine brought a gun to school. It was in her locker and she showed it to me. Someone must have seen it, too, because my friend was later quietly removed from class and I never saw her again. My nephew goes to Einstein and he said there was a lockdown and a classroom was raided to arrest a student who brought a gun to school. He showed me texts from classes where they tilted tables and hid behind them. I'm not going to say which way was better, but very few children were affected, let alone knew about the gun when I was a student. Of course, no one had a cell phone then.

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Anonymous wrote:they just lifted it. my kids inside. says officers releasing classes. someone had a gun in art class is what kids are saying

This is terrifying. There is no barrier or deterrence to prevent kids from bringing weapons on school grounds. Why is everyone ok with this?

We go through screening at the airport to avoid this stuff but despite countless incidents at schools, we continue to let it be a free-for-all. I guess they're waiting for enough kids to die or get hurt before they do something drastic. Even though Magruder already happened on MCPS's watch.

Wrong. There are laws, and they generally work. No need to overreact to a single rumor (which is what this is so far).

A single rumor? Are you paying attention?

Last week, Richard Montgomery was on lockdown for this same issue.

Wheaton had a gun brought on campus: https://wjla.com/news/local/wheaton-high-school-bb-gun-montgomery-county-police-loaded-handgun-marijuana-backpack-teen-student

Blair G. Ewing Center (an alternative MCPS high school): https://wjla.com/news/local/montgomery-county-public-schools-blair-ewing-center-student-brought-handgun-ammunition-bullets-found-police-sro-resource-officers

Uninvited student apprehended at Bethesda MS: https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/12/27/uninvited-student-apprehended-at-north-bethesda-ms/

BB Gun shooting at Silver Spring International Middle School: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/7th-grader-shot-in-thigh-by-classmate-with-bb-gun-in-silver-spring-maryland/65-e231537c-2570-4705-be1b-3d82913b6bba

BB Guns at Walter Johnson and Magruder: https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/03/24/bb-guns-recovered-at-magruder-walter-johnson-high-schools/

Blair lockdown: https://mocoshow.com/blog/blair-lockdown-lifted-following-report-of-weapon-outside-on-school-property/

Stabbing at Blair High School: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/crime/stabbing-outside-high-school-shelter-in-place-montgomery-blair-high-school/65-ad2874d3-284b-4e94-be02-cfc375daaf54

But yeah.....the laws are working and we're overreacting to a single rumor. That math makes sense to you.

Lol, that was 1 week at RM alone in the 70’s and 80’s

The sky is falling, the sky is falling.

So you're not bothered. Noted.

The rest of us who care about our kids' wellbeing and have a moral code will continue the discussion.

I am bothered but I also don’t think the sky is falling,

You seem to lack moral codes actually.

You're talking out of both sides of your mouth. You're bothered but your response to back-to-back high school lockdowns and a laundry list of violent or threatening incidents in MCPS is that it was like this or even worse in the 70s or 80s. You're a horrible person.

Anonymous wrote:Crime in the county is increasing. We’re seeing a lot more violent, crimes and gun related crimes. All of that is bleeding into the schools.

This is obviously a school problem but it’s also a County problem.