Anonymous wrote:Sorry not believing this thread at all. If you have a real job making at decent amount, no one has the time to do two ft jobs around here.

Maybe your job is demanding and you have no time to do anything else. I see many low performers at my job that I wonder what they are even doing here.
I wonder how they still have a job. This is in person, not remote. I'm sure if we were remote, they could easily have time for one or two other jobs.

Meaningful long-term career advancement is what I'd worry about. If you are fine being mid-level and want to maximize current income, it isn't a terrible idea to work 2 jobs if you can do both fairly well.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course this isn't allowed. Wait until they audit you and you have to pay back your salary. This is a reason why WFH doesn't work and everyone is back in the office

Who is this "they"? There's no such thing as employer audit. I'm a fed and a lot of my coworkers have 2nd jobs but in unrelated fields (real estate, clothes making, etsy stores, couple counseling, sports coaching, tutoring, bartending etc.). As long as you don't work the same hours and there is no conflict of interest, go for it.

Same hours is a myth. Exempt employees don’t do time cards.

Yes they do in some fields. Namely ones that care about billable hours.

It sucks to be a lawyer and have to care about billable hours.

Sorry not believing this thread at all. If you have a real job making at decent amount, no one has the time to do two ft jobs around here.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course this isn't allowed. Wait until they audit you and you have to pay back your salary. This is a reason why WFH doesn't work and everyone is back in the office

Who is this "they"? There's no such thing as employer audit. I'm a fed and a lot of my coworkers have 2nd jobs but in unrelated fields (real estate, clothes making, etsy stores, couple counseling, sports coaching, tutoring, bartending etc.). As long as you don't work the same hours and there is no conflict of interest, go for it.

Same hours is a myth. Exempt employees don’t do time cards.

Yes they do in some fields. Namely ones that care about billable hours.

Sucks that you went to law school. Talent in the tech sector absolutely getting paid from 2 jobs right now. Rarely are our hours defined and current tech sector philosophies allow for people to be unavailable at random times for "creativity" or whatever. There is technically nothing wrong with working 2 jobs at the same time when both only expect you to put in 40 hours.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course this isn't allowed. Wait until they audit you and you have to pay back your salary. This is a reason why WFH doesn't work and everyone is back in the office

Who is this "they"? There's no such thing as employer audit. I'm a fed and a lot of my coworkers have 2nd jobs but in unrelated fields (real estate, clothes making, etsy stores, couple counseling, sports coaching, tutoring, bartending etc.). As long as you don't work the same hours and there is no conflict of interest, go for it.

Same hours is a myth. Exempt employees don’t do time cards.

Ive worked for 32 years as an exempt employee in 4 different companies - as a manager/professional. In every single instance I have had to complete a timecard daily.

Mr. boomer in the house. 4 jobs in 32 years? I had 4 jobs in last four years. And time cards what are you Fred Flintstone?

Gen X here. I worked one job where I had to "fill out a timecard" and it said 9-5 every day with a 30 m inute lunch at noon. Every, single, solitary day. So NBD.

If you are working the same hours then it's going to catch up to you. If you apply to new jobs in the future the background check will reveal this. Maybe they won't care, but it's definitely a conflict of interest and speaks to integrity if it's a traditional 9-5 corporate type job. I wouldn't risk it.

I fired somebody for wage theft. It went like this. new employee was "sick" in her first 3 months but we didn't offer PTO until after that 90 day phase. Their performance had never been good and I had a list of content reasons to fire her. SO, I decided that if she did great on this thing, I 'd keep her and if not, I'd fire her. She was late for the thing and not prepared so I fired her for cause. She wanted to wipe her computer. No. I went clicking around. and, instead of being sick, she was ON VACATION! Her flight was late so that's why she was late (redyeye). It gets better. She had a second job and her log-in (and her time-worked log for that job) was on her work issued computer! I called the lawyer and told him. He laughed and said that I was lucky to catch it in 90 days.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course this isn't allowed. Wait until they audit you and you have to pay back your salary. This is a reason why WFH doesn't work and everyone is back in the office

Who is this "they"? There's no such thing as employer audit. I'm a fed and a lot of my coworkers have 2nd jobs but in unrelated fields (real estate, clothes making, etsy stores, couple counseling, sports coaching, tutoring, bartending etc.). As long as you don't work the same hours and there is no conflict of interest, go for it.

Same hours is a myth. Exempt employees don’t do time cards.

Ive worked for 32 years as an exempt employee in 4 different companies - as a manager/professional. In every single instance I have had to complete a timecard daily.

Mr. boomer in the house. 4 jobs in 32 years? I had 4 jobs in last four years. And time cards what are you Fred Flintstone?

Anonymous wrote:Go for it OP. I’m fully remote and I work 2 jobs.
I spend more time doing my first job and I make sure I do it well. It’s a software engineering job.
I do the bare minimum at my second job. It’s a database admin job. I don’t care if I get fired. I have already been fired once. It was after 6 months.
No problems. I found another one. Just rinse and and repeat. I’m 10 months into this second job, still a DB admin. I’m lucky that my boss works from the UK and we are on different time zones. I may last another 6 months or a year because I’m really doing the bare minimum to stay afloat.
All earnings from my second job fully go into investment for my retirement. I’ll do this for another 5 years or more and retire early.

I agree. I am also banging my 401k harder than ever. 20 percent J1 and 10 percent J2. I am over 50 so want to hit 30k max earlier in year.

I have my YE next week one Job. They could lay me off. Who cares. I think most tech layoffs are imaginary. Half the Google folks have 2-3 jobs. They will find out when no one claims unemployment or signs up for cobra

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Anonymous wrote:Of course this isn't allowed. Wait until they audit you and you have to pay back your salary. This is a reason why WFH doesn't work and everyone is back in the office

Who is this "they"? There's no such thing as employer audit. I'm a fed and a lot of my coworkers have 2nd jobs but in unrelated fields (real estate, clothes making, etsy stores, couple counseling, sports coaching, tutoring, bartending etc.). As long as you don't work the same hours and there is no conflict of interest, go for it.

Same hours is a myth. Exempt employees don’t do time cards.

Ive worked for 32 years as an exempt employee in 4 different companies - as a manager/professional. In every single instance I have had to complete a timecard daily.

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Anonymous wrote:I make in in my two jobs
1) 165k plus 40k stock - 205k
2) 190k plus 30k cash bonus - 220k

Hard to quit one as huge hit to income.

And there is no such thing you owe money back.

I had an interview today for a third job paying 280k.

At work in 2022 I noticed “job abandonment” is a new big category of terminations. I imagine people with multiple jobs have balls to not even formally quit.

You are sooooo full of it.

I agree !! I call BS !!

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Anonymous wrote:Of course this isn't allowed. Wait until they audit you and you have to pay back your salary. This is a reason why WFH doesn't work and everyone is back in the office

I have two remote jobs in cybersecurity operations. The first job begins at 7am and ends at 3pm, while the 2nd job starts at 11pm and ends at 7am. I sleep between 3pm and 10pm, and also on the jobs between 12am and 7am. I am making 200K on the first job and 195K on the second job. I've been doing it since the pandemic of March 2020. I am going to quit my second job in a month since I've made enough money in the past three years.

You just told us you sleep on the job for 7 hours. This is why you should quit and why WFM is a farce.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I don't believe you when you say you see posts all over social media about people bragging about their two jobs. People are not that stupid.

Go to r/overemployed on Reddit

Reddit is not real life.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course this isn't allowed. Wait until they audit you and you have to pay back your salary. This is a reason why WFH doesn't work and everyone is back in the office

Who is this "they"? There's no such thing as employer audit. I'm a fed and a lot of my coworkers have 2nd jobs but in unrelated fields (real estate, clothes making, etsy stores, couple counseling, sports coaching, tutoring, bartending etc.). As long as you don't work the same hours and there is no conflict of interest, go for it.

Same hours is a myth. Exempt employees don’t do time cards.

Huh? I’ve always been an exempt employee and required to submit timesheets. Per our employee handbook, I’m expected to work 40 hours per week during regular business hours. No way would it be ethical to work a second overlapping job and then put down that I worked 40 hours for the first company.

This may not be the expectation and standard in every job, but in most it is. Read your personnel manuals before engaging in this questionable conduct. People are legitimately getting fired over this stuff.

NP with a question - I’ve also always been exempt but needed to submit time and do at least 40 hours. However, usually/often it is more or much more than that. However, I never get any credit for the hours that I’m over 40 despite the fact that I can’t do less without taking leave. I thought the whole justification for salaried workers often doing more than 40 is that you hired to do a job not work prescribed hours. But if you can never balance the time and only can do more, why is that ok?

Because they sc*ew you p and down with that system. My last full time job, I had to be sitting at my computer from 9-6 every day, and I also had to track the work I was doing in five minute increments. They didn't have enough work for me to do and somehow I was in trouble at the end of it. But on the days that I did have a lot to do, I sat there and did it until it was done, whatever time that was. It was really the worst of both worlds.

I am now self-employed and really struggling with the idea of giving anyone that kind of control over my time again, even though a nice remote job is being proposed for me.

Also OP is a ridiculous troll, and honestly the anti-WFH people sound more ridiculous and desperate by the day.