Anonymous
Post 01/22/2023 14:20     Subject: Re:USNWR rankings coming to an end?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Gosh, whatever will we talk about, then?

And how will strivers know where to apply?


actually a funny comment because it is true on many levels

I think US News single handedly raised the reputation of a number of T25 non ivies

Vanderbilt had a 50%+ acceptance rate back at the turn of the century as did USC.

Ivies will always get the apps but Vandy, Northwestern, Duke, Rice, Northeastern, and Wash U are included on many wish lists based solely on the ranking


Duke and Vandy have always enjoyed high lay prestige.



I disagree with the above statement. Always is a long very time.


Today, many don’t seem to know that U.S. college rankings have been around since the 1920’s, at least among academics. They were completed infrequently and based on surveys of administrators. They mostly helped to guide academic networks. I don’t know about the earliest rankings, but I do know that in the 1950’s Vanderbilt was considered a regional peer to the Ivies. In fact, there was talk about creating a conference of better private southern schools to play the Ivies, but it didn’t gain traction.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2023 14:08     Subject: Re:USNWR rankings coming to an end?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Gosh, whatever will we talk about, then?

And how will strivers know where to apply?


actually a funny comment because it is true on many levels

I think US News single handedly raised the reputation of a number of T25 non ivies

Vanderbilt had a 50%+ acceptance rate back at the turn of the century as did USC.

Ivies will always get the apps but Vandy, Northwestern, Duke, Rice, Northeastern, and Wash U are included on many wish lists based solely on the ranking


Duke and Vandy have always enjoyed high lay prestige.



I disagree with the above statement. Always is a long very time.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2023 11:51     Subject: USNWR rankings coming to an end?
What do people think of their global rankings? It seems primarily based on research productivity, but I noticed that the University of Washington is ranked #6 of the 2,000 universities they consider.

I don’t hear much mention of that school around here. But Seattle seems like a nice city too. Is it just the geographic distance/lack of familiarity? Or do people perceive other strikes against it?
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2023 10:59     Subject: USNWR rankings coming to an end?
Between cost, lowering standards and AI. College itself will end in its current form.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2023 10:14     Subject: USNWR rankings coming to an end?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The flyover country colleges will suffer the most. Outside of these fake rankings, why would anyone bother freezing their butt off in a dying depressing region. A false sense of status and prestige is all places like Chicago, Northwestern, WashU, and Michigan have. Notre Dame is the one anomaly I suppose.

Meanwhile Georgetown, Vanderbilt, USC, Miami and NYU will remain hot because they’re full of rich kids and in thriving cities.

Miami? Replace with Emory would make more sense. Atlanta is a thriving growing city.


There’s no question that Miami gets a big boost from its location.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2023 10:11     Subject: Re:USNWR rankings coming to an end?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Gosh, whatever will we talk about, then?

And how will strivers know where to apply?


actually a funny comment because it is true on many levels

I think US News single handedly raised the reputation of a number of T25 non ivies

Vanderbilt had a 50%+ acceptance rate back at the turn of the century as did USC.

Ivies will always get the apps but Vandy, Northwestern, Duke, Rice, Northeastern, and Wash U are included on many wish lists based solely on the ranking


Duke and Vandy have always enjoyed high lay prestige.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2023 22:21     Subject: USNWR rankings coming to an end?
Anonymous wrote:The flyover country colleges will suffer the most. Outside of these fake rankings, why would anyone bother freezing their butt off in a dying depressing region. A false sense of status and prestige is all places like Chicago, Northwestern, WashU, and Michigan have. Notre Dame is the one anomaly I suppose.

Meanwhile Georgetown, Vanderbilt, USC, Miami and NYU will remain hot because they’re full of rich kids and in thriving cities.

Miami? Replace with Emory would make more sense. Atlanta is a thriving growing city.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2023 12:34     Subject: Re:USNWR rankings coming to an end?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Gosh, whatever will we talk about, then?

And how will strivers know where to apply?


actually a funny comment because it is true on many levels

I think US News single handedly raised the reputation of a number of T25 non ivies

Vanderbilt had a 50%+ acceptance rate back at the turn of the century as did USC.

Ivies will always get the apps but Vandy, Northwestern, Duke, Rice, Northeastern, and Wash U are included on many wish lists based solely on the ranking


Pretty much, except for Duke due to its basketball fame, and add Hopkins. All of those were always top universities in each of their regions, but never internationally attractive universities as the top/middle tier Ivies and Stanford/MIT/Caltech.

Students from the Northeast would be happy to go to Villanova, Fordham, Tufts, etc. if they didn't get into the Ivies. They knew these schools were not as good as the Ivies but they didn't think the were 40-50 spots worse.

Now they go Washington Univ., Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, etc.

Anonymous
Post 01/20/2023 00:04     Subject: USNWR rankings coming to an end?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The flyover country colleges will suffer the most. Outside of these fake rankings, why would anyone bother freezing their butt off in a dying depressing region. A false sense of status and prestige is all places like Chicago, Northwestern, WashU, and Michigan have. Notre Dame is the one anomaly I suppose.

Meanwhile Georgetown, Vanderbilt, USC, Miami and NYU will remain hot because they’re full of rich kids and in thriving cities.


Lmfao Notre Dame is more overrated than all those aforementioned schools combined. This post just screams insecurity. Constantly derides other parts of the country “flyover country” and yet lives in… the DMV, of all places?! The jokes write themselves.


Notre Dame is #7 on endowment.
It'll only get better. Far from overrated.


Catholic institutions and hoarding money. Name a more iconic duo.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2023 21:59     Subject: USNWR rankings coming to an end?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The flyover country colleges will suffer the most. Outside of these fake rankings, why would anyone bother freezing their butt off in a dying depressing region. A false sense of status and prestige is all places like Chicago, Northwestern, WashU, and Michigan have. Notre Dame is the one anomaly I suppose.

Meanwhile Georgetown, Vanderbilt, USC, Miami and NYU will remain hot because they’re full of rich kids and in thriving cities.


Lmfao Notre Dame is more overrated than all those aforementioned schools combined. This post just screams insecurity. Constantly derides other parts of the country “flyover country” and yet lives in… the DMV, of all places?! The jokes write themselves.


Notre Dame is #7 on endowment.
It'll only get better. Far from overrated.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2023 21:00     Subject: Re:USNWR rankings coming to an end?
Anonymous wrote:The rankings should be tier-based clusters rather than ordinal.

There's no difference in quality or prestige between Duke, Hopkins and Northwestern. The correct choice is going to be based on major and locational preference. That Duke is top 10 one year and the other two aren't, and vice versa the other years, is just stupid.

Same for Penn, Columbia and Chicago.

Or Dartmouth, Brown and Cornell.

Or UCB, UCLA, Michigan, and UNC.

Or Vanderbilt, Washington University, Notre Dame, Rice, CMU, Georgetown, or Emory.

Or UCSB, UC Davis, UC San Diego, UC Irvine.

Or Tufts, Boston College, Wake Forest, Rochester.



Nobody cares about 2nd tier UCs except Californians
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2023 20:56     Subject: Re:USNWR rankings coming to an end?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Gosh, whatever will we talk about, then?

And how will strivers know where to apply?


actually a funny comment because it is true on many levels

I think US News single handedly raised the reputation of a number of T25 non ivies

Vanderbilt had a 50%+ acceptance rate back at the turn of the century as did USC.

Ivies will always get the apps but Vandy, Northwestern, Duke, Rice, Northeastern, and Wash U are included on many wish lists based solely on the ranking


Many Ivies had 30-50% acceptance back then
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2023 20:54     Subject: USNWR rankings coming to an end?
Anonymous wrote:The flyover country colleges will suffer the most. Outside of these fake rankings, why would anyone bother freezing their butt off in a dying depressing region. A false sense of status and prestige is all places like Chicago, Northwestern, WashU, and Michigan have. Notre Dame is the one anomaly I suppose.

Meanwhile Georgetown, Vanderbilt, USC, Miami and NYU will remain hot because they’re full of rich kids and in thriving cities.


How did Miami get in there??
Your kid there??
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2023 20:34     Subject: USNWR rankings coming to an end?
Anonymous wrote:The flyover country colleges will suffer the most. Outside of these fake rankings, why would anyone bother freezing their butt off in a dying depressing region. A false sense of status and prestige is all places like Chicago, Northwestern, WashU, and Michigan have. Notre Dame is the one anomaly I suppose.

Meanwhile Georgetown, Vanderbilt, USC, Miami and NYU will remain hot because they’re full of rich kids and in thriving cities.


Lmfao Notre Dame is more overrated than all those aforementioned schools combined. This post just screams insecurity. Constantly derides other parts of the country “flyover country” and yet lives in… the DMV, of all places?! The jokes write themselves.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2023 20:12     Subject: USNWR rankings coming to an end?
Anonymous wrote:The flyover country colleges will suffer the most. Outside of these fake rankings, why would anyone bother freezing their butt off in a dying depressing region. A false sense of status and prestige is all places like Chicago, Northwestern, WashU, and Michigan have. Notre Dame is the one anomaly I suppose.


They all have massive endowments and are top research institutions. They will continue attracting great students from all over the US and beyond.