Anonymous
Post 01/12/2023 15:52     Subject: Re:Redshirting August boy?

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Would it be better to redshirt before he enters PreK or the PreK year?

I can have him do the 3s year at his current daycare and then move to private school or start attending private school in the 3s and then repeat the 3s or PreK4 if necessary.

I'd look for an interesting program that isn't too academic so he doesn't get too far ahead. Maybe something outdoors based on expeditionary? I wouldn't have him repeat the same thing two years in a row or repeat K.


Why would anyone hinder their child’s learning for what they are capable of? That is absolutely terrible advice.

Um no. It's about learning *different* things each year rather than repeating the same content. Hopefully the school would teach lots of interesting stuff, work on fine and gross motor skills, socialization, etc. It just shouldn't be all the same stuff as what he'll do in K.

For instance, in pre-K kids often do the butterfly life cycle. In an outdoor program they might study animal habitats. Then in K he might learn about the water cycle. You don't want him duplicating butterflies or the water cycle--different content each year should be a goal.

I also don't want my pre-K kid spending all his time on worksheets or seat work. He should be up and moving and learning. No need to spend his year before K writing personal narratives and doing addition worksheets--they do that in K and even then it's not really developmentally appropriate.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2023 15:51     Subject: Redshirting August boy?

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Anonymous wrote:Before you redshirt, just remember that you will have a year of parenting an adult in the future.

So many of my friends who redshirted their boys had huge struggles once they reached 18 and still had another year of HS left.

Lots of "you can't make me, I'm 18" and fighting.


+1-That happened in my family and it does happen at my son’s school unfortunately.


I have a child who is born in September and went on time, so they are among the oldest in their class (school has a 9/1 cutoff). Do the non-redshirted but still older kids who are 18 throughout most of senior year face this issue too? Wondering what to expect.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2023 15:51     Subject: Redshirting August boy?

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Anonymous wrote:Before you redshirt, just remember that you will have a year of parenting an adult in the future.

So many of my friends who redshirted their boys had huge struggles once they reached 18 and still had another year of HS left.

Lots of "you can't make me, I'm 18" and fighting.


And if you don’t redshirt a late August birthday, you’ll most likely be dropping off a 17 year old, non-adult to college, since many colleges start mid-August. There are downsides to that as well.


No, they would be turning 18.
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Post 01/12/2023 15:49     Subject: Redshirting August boy?

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Anonymous wrote:Do it, you won’t regret it. We redshirted my eldest daughter born 5 days before the cut off. She stayed in her preschool one more year (with se lever al other classmates). It was non-issue. She was fine academically and now in 3rd she is doing fantastic (90-99th percentile on ERB), but she was socially immature. Even now that she is among the oldest in her class (though has never been the oldest), she is still on the you get side, but more middle of the pack.

In our well-known private, I have never seen a girl or a boy with an august birthday going on time. Plenty/all are redshirted


They are all socially immature and she should be doing fantastic since she is measured at a year behind what her grade should be.
She's not a year behind, as a late August birthday she's only a couple of weeks older than the official start of the grade. She should be on the more mature end of her class.


You said she is held back. And since she should be on the more mature end of her class, why isn’t she since you held her back to remedy that?


Actually my DD was born 5 days before cut off (not a couple of weeks) and out of 18 kids she is the 4th oldest… so what… 65-70th percentile? Giving that is is scoring 90-99th percentile she is definitely doing great!


You want a cookie? She should be scoring that if she is the 4th oldest. That’s nothing to brag about.


What is your problem? Why so bitter? Why do you care this much?
My guess is that you are super competitive and you want your non-redshirted summer kid to do better than anyone else…. How weird… No chance you would so bitter unless it was personal


Ironically, you’re the bitter one who got cannot handle being called out by your “brag” as not really being something to brag about. DP


Not at all! I am not going on anonymous boards telling other parents their kids are mediocre. My kids are doing great and I support redshirting for any kids who would benefit from one more year before entering PK/K.


You are going on anonymous boards boasting about a scores of a child who is one of the eldest. That should be expected and not an outstanding accomplishment. You’re the mom who wants a trophy for participating.


Ok. Whatever… I really don’t care. My child is very happy and well adjusted at an amazing school, with great friends and great academics. Redshirting was a great decision for us.
My suggestion for OP is to avoid listening to the crazies on this board and talk to teachers at both schools and to other parents. You son will not be the oldest if you decide to redshirt.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2023 15:48     Subject: Redshirting August boy?

Anonymous wrote:Before you redshirt, just remember that you will have a year of parenting an adult in the future.

So many of my friends who redshirted their boys had huge struggles once they reached 18 and still had another year of HS left.

Lots of "you can't make me, I'm 18" and fighting.


And if you don’t redshirt a late August birthday, you’ll most likely be dropping off a 17 year old, non-adult to college, since many colleges start mid-August. There are downsides to that as well.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2023 15:45     Subject: Redshirting August boy?

Anonymous wrote:Before you redshirt, just remember that you will have a year of parenting an adult in the future.

So many of my friends who redshirted their boys had huge struggles once they reached 18 and still had another year of HS left.

Lots of "you can't make me, I'm 18" and fighting.


+1-That happened in my family and it does happen at my son’s school unfortunately.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2023 15:44     Subject: Redshirting August boy?

Before you redshirt, just remember that you will have a year of parenting an adult in the future.

So many of my friends who redshirted their boys had huge struggles once they reached 18 and still had another year of HS left.

Lots of "you can't make me, I'm 18" and fighting.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2023 15:44     Subject: Redshirting August boy?

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Anonymous wrote:Do it, you won’t regret it. We redshirted my eldest daughter born 5 days before the cut off. She stayed in her preschool one more year (with se lever al other classmates). It was non-issue. She was fine academically and now in 3rd she is doing fantastic (90-99th percentile on ERB), but she was socially immature. Even now that she is among the oldest in her class (though has never been the oldest), she is still on the you get side, but more middle of the pack.

In our well-known private, I have never seen a girl or a boy with an august birthday going on time. Plenty/all are redshirted


They are all socially immature and she should be doing fantastic since she is measured at a year behind what her grade should be.
She's not a year behind, as a late August birthday she's only a couple of weeks older than the official start of the grade. She should be on the more mature end of her class.


You said she is held back. And since she should be on the more mature end of her class, why isn’t she since you held her back to remedy that?


Actually my DD was born 5 days before cut off (not a couple of weeks) and out of 18 kids she is the 4th oldest… so what… 65-70th percentile? Giving that is is scoring 90-99th percentile she is definitely doing great!


You want a cookie? She should be scoring that if she is the 4th oldest. That’s nothing to brag about.


What is your problem? Why so bitter? Why do you care this much?
My guess is that you are super competitive and you want your non-redshirted summer kid to do better than anyone else…. How weird… No chance you would so bitter unless it was personal


If they were super competitive, they seemingly would’ve red shirted their child.


That’s because YOU are competitive. I redshirted my child so that she would be happier… not so that she would be better than her classmates.

Really, then what’s with the “90-99th percentile scoring” about if it’s not about being “better than her classmates?”
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Post 01/12/2023 15:42     Subject: Redshirting August boy?

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Anonymous wrote:Do it, you won’t regret it. We redshirted my eldest daughter born 5 days before the cut off. She stayed in her preschool one more year (with se lever al other classmates). It was non-issue. She was fine academically and now in 3rd she is doing fantastic (90-99th percentile on ERB), but she was socially immature. Even now that she is among the oldest in her class (though has never been the oldest), she is still on the you get side, but more middle of the pack.

In our well-known private, I have never seen a girl or a boy with an august birthday going on time. Plenty/all are redshirted


They are all socially immature and she should be doing fantastic since she is measured at a year behind what her grade should be.
She's not a year behind, as a late August birthday she's only a couple of weeks older than the official start of the grade. She should be on the more mature end of her class.


You said she is held back. And since she should be on the more mature end of her class, why isn’t she since you held her back to remedy that?


Actually my DD was born 5 days before cut off (not a couple of weeks) and out of 18 kids she is the 4th oldest… so what… 65-70th percentile? Giving that is is scoring 90-99th percentile she is definitely doing great!


You want a cookie? She should be scoring that if she is the 4th oldest. That’s nothing to brag about.


What is your problem? Why so bitter? Why do you care this much?
My guess is that you are super competitive and you want your non-redshirted summer kid to do better than anyone else…. How weird… No chance you would so bitter unless it was personal


If they were super competitive, they seemingly would’ve red shirted their child.


That’s because YOU are competitive. I redshirted my child so that she would be happier… not so that she would be better than her classmates.


Says the mom who put up her child’s scores on an anonymous board.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2023 15:41     Subject: Redshirting August boy?

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Anonymous wrote:Do it, you won’t regret it. We redshirted my eldest daughter born 5 days before the cut off. She stayed in her preschool one more year (with se lever al other classmates). It was non-issue. She was fine academically and now in 3rd she is doing fantastic (90-99th percentile on ERB), but she was socially immature. Even now that she is among the oldest in her class (though has never been the oldest), she is still on the you get side, but more middle of the pack.

In our well-known private, I have never seen a girl or a boy with an august birthday going on time. Plenty/all are redshirted


They are all socially immature and she should be doing fantastic since she is measured at a year behind what her grade should be.
She's not a year behind, as a late August birthday she's only a couple of weeks older than the official start of the grade. She should be on the more mature end of her class.


You said she is held back. And since she should be on the more mature end of her class, why isn’t she since you held her back to remedy that?


Actually my DD was born 5 days before cut off (not a couple of weeks) and out of 18 kids she is the 4th oldest… so what… 65-70th percentile? Giving that is is scoring 90-99th percentile she is definitely doing great!


You want a cookie? She should be scoring that if she is the 4th oldest. That’s nothing to brag about.


What is your problem? Why so bitter? Why do you care this much?
My guess is that you are super competitive and you want your non-redshirted summer kid to do better than anyone else…. How weird… No chance you would so bitter unless it was personal


Ironically, you’re the bitter one who got cannot handle being called out by your “brag” as not really being something to brag about. DP


Not at all! I am not going on anonymous boards telling other parents their kids are mediocre. My kids are doing great and I support redshirting for any kids who would benefit from one more year before entering PK/K.


You are going on anonymous boards boasting about a scores of a child who is one of the eldest. That should be expected and not an outstanding accomplishment. You’re the mom who wants a trophy for participating.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2023 15:39     Subject: Redshirting August boy?

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Anonymous wrote:Do it, you won’t regret it. We redshirted my eldest daughter born 5 days before the cut off. She stayed in her preschool one more year (with se lever al other classmates). It was non-issue. She was fine academically and now in 3rd she is doing fantastic (90-99th percentile on ERB), but she was socially immature. Even now that she is among the oldest in her class (though has never been the oldest), she is still on the you get side, but more middle of the pack.

In our well-known private, I have never seen a girl or a boy with an august birthday going on time. Plenty/all are redshirted


They are all socially immature and she should be doing fantastic since she is measured at a year behind what her grade should be.
She's not a year behind, as a late August birthday she's only a couple of weeks older than the official start of the grade. She should be on the more mature end of her class.


You said she is held back. And since she should be on the more mature end of her class, why isn’t she since you held her back to remedy that?


Actually my DD was born 5 days before cut off (not a couple of weeks) and out of 18 kids she is the 4th oldest… so what… 65-70th percentile? Giving that is is scoring 90-99th percentile she is definitely doing great!


You want a cookie? She should be scoring that if she is the 4th oldest. That’s nothing to brag about.


What is your problem? Why so bitter? Why do you care this much?
My guess is that you are super competitive and you want your non-redshirted summer kid to do better than anyone else…. How weird… No chance you would so bitter unless it was personal


If they were super competitive, they seemingly would’ve red shirted their child.


That’s because YOU are competitive. I redshirted my child so that she would be happier… not so that she would be better than her classmates.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2023 15:38     Subject: Redshirting August boy?

Anonymous wrote:Definitely redshirt. We did it because our elementary school is so terrible and we wanted him to have another year of fun and high quality education.

Why would one redshirt on factors that are not based upon one’s child’s intellect?
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Post 01/12/2023 15:38     Subject: Redshirting August boy?

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Anonymous wrote:Do it, you won’t regret it. We redshirted my eldest daughter born 5 days before the cut off. She stayed in her preschool one more year (with se lever al other classmates). It was non-issue. She was fine academically and now in 3rd she is doing fantastic (90-99th percentile on ERB), but she was socially immature. Even now that she is among the oldest in her class (though has never been the oldest), she is still on the you get side, but more middle of the pack.

In our well-known private, I have never seen a girl or a boy with an august birthday going on time. Plenty/all are redshirted


They are all socially immature and she should be doing fantastic since she is measured at a year behind what her grade should be.
She's not a year behind, as a late August birthday she's only a couple of weeks older than the official start of the grade. She should be on the more mature end of her class.


You said she is held back. And since she should be on the more mature end of her class, why isn’t she since you held her back to remedy that?


Actually my DD was born 5 days before cut off (not a couple of weeks) and out of 18 kids she is the 4th oldest… so what… 65-70th percentile? Giving that is is scoring 90-99th percentile she is definitely doing great!


You want a cookie? She should be scoring that if she is the 4th oldest. That’s nothing to brag about.


What is your problem? Why so bitter? Why do you care this much?
My guess is that you are super competitive and you want your non-redshirted summer kid to do better than anyone else…. How weird… No chance you would so bitter unless it was personal


Ironically, you’re the bitter one who got cannot handle being called out by your “brag” as not really being something to brag about. DP


Not at all! I am not going on anonymous boards telling other parents their kids are mediocre. My kids are doing great and I support redshirting for any kids who would benefit from one more year before entering PK/K.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2023 15:36     Subject: Redshirting August boy?

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Anonymous wrote:Do it, you won’t regret it. We redshirted my eldest daughter born 5 days before the cut off. She stayed in her preschool one more year (with se lever al other classmates). It was non-issue. She was fine academically and now in 3rd she is doing fantastic (90-99th percentile on ERB), but she was socially immature. Even now that she is among the oldest in her class (though has never been the oldest), she is still on the you get side, but more middle of the pack.

In our well-known private, I have never seen a girl or a boy with an august birthday going on time. Plenty/all are redshirted


They are all socially immature and she should be doing fantastic since she is measured at a year behind what her grade should be.
She's not a year behind, as a late August birthday she's only a couple of weeks older than the official start of the grade. She should be on the more mature end of her class.


You said she is held back. And since she should be on the more mature end of her class, why isn’t she since you held her back to remedy that?


Actually my DD was born 5 days before cut off (not a couple of weeks) and out of 18 kids she is the 4th oldest… so what… 65-70th percentile? Giving that is is scoring 90-99th percentile she is definitely doing great!


You want a cookie? She should be scoring that if she is the 4th oldest. That’s nothing to brag about.


What is your problem? Why so bitter? Why do you care this much?
My guess is that you are super competitive and you want your non-redshirted summer kid to do better than anyone else…. How weird… No chance you would so bitter unless it was personal


If they were super competitive, they seemingly would’ve red shirted their child.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2023 15:36     Subject: Re:Redshirting August boy?

Redshirting a august boy is an absolute no brainer.

Not advisable to hold him back at same school. So do before it, or wait to middle school.