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Anonymous wrote:Poor New College. It is not just a liberal school, it is experimental. If you don't know it well, you just wouldn't understand. Students do things their own way (academically and socially), and the administration (perhaps somewhat notoriously) goes along. Students are wicked smart and intrinsically motivated. They don't give a rat's ass about grades because there aren't any at New College. They aren't into standardized tests or jumping through hoops. They are intellectual, curious, and often pioneers. Oh, and their parties are legendary and weird and the stuff of Hillsdale student and faculty nightmares. This won't be a small change for them, it will be a slap in the face.

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And now it will be conservative and experimental. If students want a school with a liberal outlook, perhaps a public college in Florida was a risky choice.

DP. Exactly. I didn't even realize it was a public university - as such, it is certainly subject to the governor's discretion in appointing board members. If it was a private institution, that would be a different story. Maybe the hardcore liberals should simply open up a private university in the state. New College is PUBLIC.

Anonymous wrote:The school is gone and it’s a useful exercise in Republican hypocrisy. Florida will get what it voted for.

Florida has a massive university system and he wants a Hillsdale. If voters disagree, maybe he’ll back off, but I doubt the majority oppose it

DeSantis scores political points by bullying a small, politically irrelevant group of weirdos. Par for the course. First They Came...

The school is gone and it’s a useful exercise in Republican hypocrisy. Florida will get what it voted for.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/01/07/new-college-florida-desantis-rufo/

New College is the honors college of Florida, and its progressive education and approach to life is on the verge of being squashed by DeSantis and his cronies.

Sad.

Do you live in Florida? Do you have any affiliation to UF? No to both, so
why do you care? You’re just trolling politically outside of the political forum.

OP here. No I no longer live in Florida. Yes, I have an affiliation. There are actually a number of New College alumni in this area.

*PS, it’s not UF

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/01/07/new-college-florida-desantis-rufo/

New College is the honors college of Florida, and its progressive education and approach to life is on the verge of being squashed by DeSantis and his cronies.

Sad.

Do you live in Florida? Do you have any affiliation to UF? No to both, so
why do you care? You’re just trolling politically outside of the political forum.

OP here. No I no longer live in Florida. Yes, I have an affiliation. There are actually a number of New College alumni in this area.

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/01/07/new-college-florida-desantis-rufo/

New College is the honors college of Florida, and its progressive education and approach to life is on the verge of being squashed by DeSantis and his cronies.

Sad.

Do you live in Florida? Do you have any affiliation to UF? No to both, so
why do you care? You’re just trolling politically outside of the political forum.

Anonymous wrote:Poor New College. It is not just a liberal school, it is experimental. If you don't know it well, you just wouldn't understand. Students do things their own way (academically and socially), and the administration (perhaps somewhat notoriously) goes along. Students are wicked smart and intrinsically motivated. They don't give a rat's ass about grades because there aren't any at New College. They aren't into standardized tests or jumping through hoops. They are intellectual, curious, and often pioneers. Oh, and their parties are legendary and weird and the stuff of Hillsdale student and faculty nightmares. This won't be a small change for them, it will be a slap in the face.

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And now it will be conservative and experimental. If students want a school with a liberal outlook, perhaps a public college in Florida was a risky choice.

Poor New College. It is not just a liberal school, it is experimental. If you don't know it well, you just wouldn't understand. Students do things their own way (academically and socially), and the administration (perhaps somewhat notoriously) goes along. Students are wicked smart and intrinsically motivated. They don't give a rat's ass about grades because there aren't any at New College. They aren't into standardized tests or jumping through hoops. They are intellectual, curious, and often pioneers. Oh, and their parties are legendary and weird and the stuff of Hillsdale student and faculty nightmares. This won't be a small change for them, it will be a slap in the face.

Anonymous wrote:If more than 90% of the colleges are controlled by liberals (many of them are very liberal), almost no conservatives are allowed or can take right wing positions in these colleges, what's wrong with a tiny number of colleges to turn conservative? If you do not admit that liberals have taken over colleges across US, you are delusional and do not live in reality. Same thing for news media. Everything needs something to balance in search for truth.

There's a strain of conservativism that is intellectually modest, believes that tradition typically is undergirded with wisdom, and accepts change only in small increments, testing as it goes. "It may take us longer to get there," such conservatives say, "but we'll make fewer missteps along the way." There are a number of colleges and universities, including some quite prominent ones, that largely embody that conservative tradition in their search for truth, among them, the University of Chicago, Columbia, Claremont McKenna, and St. John's College.

There's a separate strain of conservativism, currently ascendant and embodied by the likes of Trump, DeSantis, and Hillsdale College, that is anything but intellectually modest or truth-seeking. It's fascistic ethnonationalism with a misappropriated moniker.

It's important to recognize the differences between these two strains of conservativism and evaluate each on its own merits.

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Anonymous wrote:If more than 90% of the colleges are controlled by liberals (many of them are very liberal), almost no conservatives are allowed or can take right wing positions in these colleges, what's wrong with a tiny number of colleges to turn conservative? If you do not admit that liberals have taken over colleges across US, you are delusional and do not live in reality. Same thing for news media. Everything needs something to balance in search for truth.

This. Zero chance of getting tenure if you are openly republican - even a Mitt Romney style republican. Sorry but DeSantis was totally correct about covid and is getting this right, too.

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Good for him. Why should 99% of American universities be liberal?

Because most intelligent people want nothing to do with today's "conservative" movement.

Most of Florida voters said the opposite. That's why DeSantis is re-elected with a huge margin including historically Democrat counties. The liberals only live in echo chambers like most of the colleges and news media where only one conforming voice is allowed. Forbidding even a debate that Covid-19 may be leaked from a lab is one example how dangerous the one voice society has become. The cancel culture is now everywhere.

"Most intelligent people" ≠ "Most of Florida voters"

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Anonymous wrote:Previous Florida resident whose niece is currently a New College student. The present student body is shocked and depressed, she said, and trying to figure out the best ways to respond. Maybe the school will appeal to some as PPs have suggested, but according to my niece, it does not appeal to the students who are there now and, in fact, disgusts them.

Cool story, she should transfer then.

You're a really empathetic person. THAT'S cool.

Imagine if you paid a ton to buy a house in a white Christian neighborhood, and you woke up the next day to find that one house next door had been converted to a drag nightclub pulsing with electronic dance music and the one on the other side a LGBTQX safe house. I bet you'd be super dismayed at this sudden change overnight from what you expected. You could just move, sure. But you just plopped down a bunch of money in the house, your kids' school is nearby and gets great ratings, and your church is within walking distance. You probably would be sick to your stomach with stress and grief, and feel totally betrayed.

Anonymous wrote:Previous Florida resident whose niece is currently a New College student. The present student body is shocked and depressed, she said, and trying to figure out the best ways to respond. Maybe the school will appeal to some as PPs have suggested, but according to my niece, it does not appeal to the students who are there now and, in fact, disgusts them.

Cool story, she should transfer then.

Previous Florida resident whose niece is currently a New College student. The present student body is shocked and depressed, she said, and trying to figure out the best ways to respond. Maybe the school will appeal to some as PPs have suggested, but according to my niece, it does not appeal to the students who are there now and, in fact, disgusts them.

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Anonymous wrote:If more than 90% of the colleges are controlled by liberals (many of them are very liberal), almost no conservatives are allowed or can take right wing positions in these colleges, what's wrong with a tiny number of colleges to turn conservative? If you do not admit that liberals have taken over colleges across US, you are delusional and do not live in reality. Same thing for news media. Everything needs something to balance in search for truth.

This. Zero chance of getting tenure if you are openly republican - even a Mitt Romney style republican. Sorry but DeSantis was totally correct about covid and is getting this right, too.

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Good for him. Why should 99% of American universities be liberal?

Because most intelligent people want nothing to do with today's "conservative" movement.

Most of Florida voters said the opposite. That's why DeSantis is re-elected with a huge margin including historically Democrat counties. The liberals only live in echo chambers like most of the colleges and news media where only one conforming voice is allowed. Forbidding even a debate that Covid-19 may be leaked from a lab is one example how dangerous the one voice society has become. The cancel culture is now everywhere.

This exactly. We’re moving to Florida.