I am 41, work out 7 days/week. I am not super slim but fit and athletic with curves.

When I was in my 20s/early 30s, all I did was cardio. I was slim(ish) but had no muscle tone. Once I started focusing more on building strength & lifting weights my body shape changed and I have a much more of an hourglass shape now, even after having a child and gaining a few lbs. I get much more male attention now than I did back then.

I dated a girl some years ago who had a rock hard body - I think naturally, not from a lot of exercise. She was average weight. I thought it was amazing and complimented her on it.
She was bit irritated, definitely not complimented.

Neither. I like a little cushion. Don’t like to feel too many bones or too much muscle when having sex or cuddling.

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Anonymous wrote:People who are fit and athletic usually have a glow and vigor which are much more attractive than just being slim.

+1

The advice i was given from a personal trainer: if you’re purely motivated by looking hot, you will look hotter by gaining 5 lbs of muscle than you will losing 5 lbs of fat.

Imagine that, his services will give you what you want!

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Anonymous wrote:People who are fit and athletic usually have a glow and vigor which are much more attractive than just being slim.

people who are fit and athletic will turn obese once they pull back on working out. I've seen it happen.

Naturally thin people have a better chance of staying slim.

LOL you clearly are totally unathletic and have no idea why people exercise.

It's almost charming that men think women are working out to look good for men. I hope in 2023 women continue to realize how easily men are controlled when you just pretend their mental framework is accurate.

I know why people exercise.

My point was that once people, not just women, pull back on working out, they tend to get fat. People who are not naturally thin need to exercise to stay on the thinner side.

You're clearly an expert on exercise, nutrition and body types. "Naturally thin" is basically people who eat less. If you hang around thin people you will notice they don't eat constantly and the reverse is true of fat people.

generally, but different people have different metabolism. You can have two people who have about the same activity level, eat about the same, but one person could be heavier than the other. We are not all the same.

DP.

Not much heavier.

While we are all different, we are similar enough where general calculations on how much energy we need are predictable for similar height, weight, build and activity level.

Naturally thin people eat less than those who are not naturally thin, all else being equal.

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Anonymous wrote:People who are fit and athletic usually have a glow and vigor which are much more attractive than just being slim.

people who are fit and athletic will turn obese once they pull back on working out. I've seen it happen.

Naturally thin people have a better chance of staying slim.

LOL you clearly are totally unathletic and have no idea why people exercise.

It's almost charming that men think women are working out to look good for men. I hope in 2023 women continue to realize how easily men are controlled when you just pretend their mental framework is accurate.

I know why people exercise.

My point was that once people, not just women, pull back on working out, they tend to get fat. People who are not naturally thin need to exercise to stay on the thinner side.

You're clearly an expert on exercise, nutrition and body types. "Naturally thin" is basically people who eat less. If you hang around thin people you will notice they don't eat constantly and the reverse is true of fat people.

generally, but different people have different metabolism. You can have two people who have about the same activity level, eat about the same, but one person could be heavier than the other. We are not all the same.

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Anonymous wrote:People who are fit and athletic usually have a glow and vigor which are much more attractive than just being slim.

people who are fit and athletic will turn obese once they pull back on working out. I've seen it happen.

Naturally thin people have a better chance of staying slim.

LOL you clearly are totally unathletic and have no idea why people exercise.

It's almost charming that men think women are working out to look good for men. I hope in 2023 women continue to realize how easily men are controlled when you just pretend their mental framework is accurate.

I know why people exercise.

My point was that once people, not just women, pull back on working out, they tend to get fat. People who are not naturally thin need to exercise to stay on the thinner side.

You're clearly an expert on exercise, nutrition and body types. "Naturally thin" is basically people who eat less. If you hang around thin people you will notice they don't eat constantly and the reverse is true of fat people.

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Anonymous wrote:People who are fit and athletic usually have a glow and vigor which are much more attractive than just being slim.

people who are fit and athletic will turn obese once they pull back on working out. I've seen it happen.

Naturally thin people have a better chance of staying slim.

LOL you clearly are totally unathletic and have no idea why people exercise.

It's almost charming that men think women are working out to look good for men. I hope in 2023 women continue to realize how easily men are controlled when you just pretend their mental framework is accurate.

I know why people exercise.

My point was that once people, not just women, pull back on working out, they tend to get fat. People who are not naturally thin need to exercise to stay on the thinner side.

No, they need to eat less.

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Anonymous wrote:People who are fit and athletic usually have a glow and vigor which are much more attractive than just being slim.

people who are fit and athletic will turn obese once they pull back on working out. I've seen it happen.

Naturally thin people have a better chance of staying slim.

LOL you clearly are totally unathletic and have no idea why people exercise.

It's almost charming that men think women are working out to look good for men. I hope in 2023 women continue to realize how easily men are controlled when you just pretend their mental framework is accurate.

I know why people exercise.

My point was that once people, not just women, pull back on working out, they tend to get fat. People who are not naturally thin need to exercise to stay on the thinner side.

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Anonymous wrote:Guy here. My dw has always been very fit and athletic. She just turned 50 and she still looks amazing. I don’t really find “skinny” that attractive. I like healthy looking with curves.

50 YO fit wife guy again. We’re in a ski trip this week and after taking yesterday we hit the hot tub. When she ditched her jacket and snow pants she looked really hot in her bikini. It shows that she’s had a life of athletics and working out.

That’s sweet, but go tell your wife. No one here cares.

I don’t know how anyone is worried about weight but also wants a huge Kardashian butt. That’s the standard of today that makes absolutely no sense to me and makes me happy to be firmly GenX.

Anonymous wrote:It’s cute that you’re all trying to suggest that only gen x and older cares about being skinny, but apparently gen z is even more obsessed with dieting and being skinny than the olds.

https://theconversation.com/gen-z-teens-dieting-and-worrying-about-weight-more-than-previous-generations-150297

So they may say “yay all body shapes” but ultimately they want to be skinnier than ever.

But nice try!

This. I'm young Gen X and my friends my age might sometimes worry about weight but there's a general level of acceptance that most people aren't going to be stick thin and that is a-ok (and plenty of us wouldn't want to be anyway). Also there is pragmatism among my Gen X friends -- everyone knows that people who are naturally very thin tend to have smaller boobs/hips, and women who are naturally curvy tend to carry more weight. The exceptions to this kind of prove the rule (the curvy woman who diets/exercises religiously to stay thin, but then can never lose the pregnancy weight, or the super thin woman with curves who, it turns out, has implants).

But I have some young Millennial friends (born 1988 or later) and they are much more worried about and conscious of their bodies. These women have had social media since high school or college and their social lives play out on Instagram. They are the ones who told me about "thigh gaps" and explained all the tricks influencers use to look skinny in photos online (none of them are influencers but they use a lot of the same tricks to get that look in their social media posts).

Sure, they'll also lecture me about body positivity, but I actually think they are WAY less accepting of different body types than me and my peers are. Their attitude is kind of like "Of course I think all bodies are beautiful and I personally would never criticize someone for not being thin, but also I am obsessed with being thin and looking perfect especially in all photos especially online."

It's stressful to listen to them, honestly. I'm gonna keep my own daughter off social media as long as I can. My hope is that it implodes and is "over" by the time she's old enough to want it.

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Anonymous wrote:People who are fit and athletic usually have a glow and vigor which are much more attractive than just being slim.

people who are fit and athletic will turn obese once they pull back on working out. I've seen it happen.

Naturally thin people have a better chance of staying slim.

LOL you clearly are totally unathletic and have no idea why people exercise.

It's almost charming that men think women are working out to look good for men. I hope in 2023 women continue to realize how easily men are controlled when you just pretend their mental framework is accurate.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s cute that you’re all trying to suggest that only gen x and older cares about being skinny, but apparently gen z is even more obsessed with dieting and being skinny than the olds.

https://theconversation.com/gen-z-teens-dieting-and-worrying-about-weight-more-than-previous-generations-150297

So they may say “yay all body shapes” but ultimately they want to be skinnier than ever.

But nice try!

I think that people are absolutely more accepting of different body shapes. What they’re actually attracted to is totally different though. Also, social media has had an impact - people can be famous and make money for doing little more than being fit.

Agree with you both. Thin will always be in. More now than ever because so many people are overweight. Not only is it the gold standard for beauty and fashion, but now it is a rare quality which makes it even more coveted.

But people are also more accepting of those that aren’t thin too- since that happens to be majority of people

Anonymous wrote:People who are fit and athletic usually have a glow and vigor which are much more attractive than just being slim.

people who are fit and athletic will turn obese once they pull back on working out. I've seen it happen.

Naturally thin people have a better chance of staying slim.