Anonymous
Post 12/23/2022 12:11     Subject: 62 yo man killed in Silver Spring garage

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't feel safe going out to eat anymore. I have stopped going to some DC restaurants and certainly stopped going to Silver Spring area. I prefer Howard County, Frederick County and Upper Montgomery County.



Same. I live near DTSS but we go to a Columbia Mall or Bethesda.


Guy was just murdered in bethesda garage too. Why do you feel that Bethesda is safer?


You mean the drug dealer murdered in the stairwell by the Target, or some other murder?

I think they are trying to draw equivalence between a Silver Spring man murdered by an unknown assault in a Silver Spring garage with leftovers in his hands after having dinner with his family and a man murdered by a group of boys who were sent to live in a Bethesda boys home and lured a man to the Bethesda Target for the purpose of robbing him of drugs and assaulting him.

These two things evidently show that both Bethesda and Silver Spring are equally violent.


Yes, they do.
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2022 12:03     Subject: 62 yo man killed in Silver Spring garage

Anonymous wrote:The late night hookah bars aren't helping.


https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/03/18/downtown-silver-spring-condo-residents-press-county-for-limits-on-bars-hookah-lounges/

That was the opportunity to do something, but instead the white YIMBY/urbanist bros declared that doing anything about this would be racist.



These very same white dudes who tried so hard to prevent effective action to reduce the violence are now quite angry and aggressive about anyone pointing out that’s it’s a problem after the violence has escalated to the point that it’s unsafe to go out with your family for dinner. They now don’t even want people to talk about the violence.



Anonymous
Post 12/23/2022 11:28     Subject: 62 yo man killed in Silver Spring garage

Anonymous
Post 12/23/2022 10:12     Subject: 62 yo man killed in Silver Spring garage

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't feel safe going out to eat anymore. I have stopped going to some DC restaurants and certainly stopped going to Silver Spring area. I prefer Howard County, Frederick County and Upper Montgomery County.



Same. I live near DTSS but we go to a Columbia Mall or Bethesda.


Guy was just murdered in bethesda garage too. Why do you feel that Bethesda is safer?


You mean the drug dealer murdered in the stairwell by the Target, or some other murder?

I think they are trying to draw equivalence between a Silver Spring man murdered by an unknown assault in a Silver Spring garage with leftovers in his hands after having dinner with his family and a man murdered by a group of boys who were sent to live in a Bethesda boys home and lured a man to the Bethesda Target for the purpose of robbing him of drugs and assaulting him.

These two things evidently show that both Bethesda and Silver Spring are equally violent.
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2022 10:00     Subject: 62 yo man killed in Silver Spring garage

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MoCo is as bad as DC or PG at this point.


Lol


Why is this funny?


The stats don’t show that.

The stats are still better than the 70’s/80’s

That’s not true. But a better question is why is Montgomery County’s violent crime rate 2X FFX?
https://wjla.com/amp/news/local/why-is-montgomery-countys-violent-crime-rate-twice-as-high-as-fairfax-countys
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2022 09:54     Subject: 62 yo man killed in Silver Spring garage

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MoCo is as bad as DC or PG at this point.


Lol


Why is this funny?


The stats don’t show that.

The stats are still better than the 70’s/80’s
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2022 09:53     Subject: 62 yo man killed in Silver Spring garage

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I lived in downtown Silver Spring for 10 years (2000 to 2010). Sometimes I had to work late and I was never comfortable coming out of the metro station at 10pm and walking to my apartment. Often my husband would come get me.

Sad that it hasn't changed.


No one should be comfortable walking out of metro at 10 PM anywhere in the DMV.

If having transit stations makes us so unsafe that we cannot leave our homes after dark then why should we want more transit stations?
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2022 21:35     Subject: 62 yo man killed in Silver Spring garage

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't feel safe going out to eat anymore. I have stopped going to some DC restaurants and certainly stopped going to Silver Spring area. I prefer Howard County, Frederick County and Upper Montgomery County.



Same. I live near DTSS but we go to a Columbia Mall or Bethesda.


Guy was just murdered in bethesda garage too. Why do you feel that Bethesda is safer?


Because that was a drug deal gone bad - it was not random like this one in Silver Spring. Also why was he in the staircase anyway? I never take them in parking garages since the other murder near Target.


Maybe he was only parked on the second or third floor.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2022 21:00     Subject: 62 yo man killed in Silver Spring garage

Anonymous wrote:There really should be plenty of cameras there. Such an easy first step. The fact that this was not captured on camera is bad.


Oh, so let's talk about this! There was some sort of anti violence appropriation back in the spring. Money to do exactly that -- add cameras, do some sort of violent crime information center to get real time info to police so they could prevent and respond to crime. And Silver Spring Justice Coalition protested it. They've got Jawando in their back pocket. Fortunately the rest of the Council didn't go along with it. Craig Rice read them the riot act for being a bunch of old white people claiming to represent the needs and the wants of the Black community.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2022 20:57     Subject: Re:62 yo man killed in Silver Spring garage

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The 50% reduction in Police in DTSS is not true. The PP is throwing it around but it’s not true. Patrols have increased in that area.


I’m the PP. I refer you to page 27 of this report:
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/rps/Resources/Files/reports/rps-task-force-recommendations-report.pdf

It recommends:
12) “Reduce sworn officer FTEs in police Districts 3 and 4 by 50 % to reduce patrol officer contact with residents in these districts. The more than $12,000,000 saved from these reductions should be shifted by the County Executive 50% to other agencies and departments for quality of life improvements in these districts, including Community Partnerships, Health and Human Services, Housing and Community Affairs, and Recreation; and 50% to a new Community Safety Grants Program that would award grants to residents and local organizations in districts 3 and 4 to complete projects that improve public safety, improve economic conditions and alleviate poverty, and increase community pride.”

Silver Spring is district 3. Wheaton is 4.

There is your Task Force in action. This is what your local government supports. Has it happened yet? Not officially, I believe. The current rhetoric against officers, however, has led to extreme shortages in that district, with very few recruits to fill the gaps.


Thanks for providing this information. Exactly -- it's a mess, thanks to Elrich and various police-hating members of the Council, in particular Jawando.
He's got Mink and Sayles under his anti-police spell now too.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2022 20:57     Subject: Re:62 yo man killed in Silver Spring garage

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The 50% reduction in Police in DTSS is not true. The PP is throwing it around but it’s not true. Patrols have increased in that area.


https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/data/crime-reports.html (see towards the end of each report)

No 2022 report yet, but in 2021 there were 1235 officers, and in 2020 it was 1290. The number of officers has gone down.


They were down 108 officers in October. So they had 1,173. Don't know what it is now.
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/council/Resources/Files/agenda/cm/2022/20221010/20221010_PS2.pdf
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2022 20:40     Subject: Re:62 yo man killed in Silver Spring garage

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The 50% reduction in Police in DTSS is not true. The PP is throwing it around but it’s not true. Patrols have increased in that area.


I’m the PP. I refer you to page 27 of this report:
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/rps/Resources/Files/reports/rps-task-force-recommendations-report.pdf

It recommends:
12) “Reduce sworn officer FTEs in police Districts 3 and 4 by 50 % to reduce patrol officer contact with residents in these districts. The more than $12,000,000 saved from these reductions should be shifted by the County Executive 50% to other agencies and departments for quality of life improvements in these districts, including Community Partnerships, Health and Human Services, Housing and Community Affairs, and Recreation; and 50% to a new Community Safety Grants Program that would award grants to residents and local organizations in districts 3 and 4 to complete projects that improve public safety, improve economic conditions and alleviate poverty, and increase community pride.”

Silver Spring is district 3. Wheaton is 4.

There is your Task Force in action. This is what your local government supports. Has it happened yet? Not officially, I believe. The current rhetoric against officers, however, has led to extreme shortages in that district, with very few recruits to fill the gaps.


Thanks for providing this information. Exactly -- it's a mess, thanks to Elrich and various police-hating members of the Council, in particular Jawando.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2022 20:39     Subject: Re:62 yo man killed in Silver Spring garage

Anonymous wrote:The 50% reduction in Police in DTSS is not true. The PP is throwing it around but it’s not true. Patrols have increased in that area.


https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/data/crime-reports.html (see towards the end of each report)

No 2022 report yet, but in 2021 there were 1235 officers, and in 2020 it was 1290. The number of officers has gone down.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2022 20:38     Subject: Re:62 yo man killed in Silver Spring garage

Anonymous wrote:The 50% reduction in Police in DTSS is not true. The PP is throwing it around but it’s not true. Patrols have increased in that area.


I’m the PP. I refer you to page 27 of this report:
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/rps/Resources/Files/reports/rps-task-force-recommendations-report.pdf

It recommends:
12) “Reduce sworn officer FTEs in police Districts 3 and 4 by 50 % to reduce patrol officer contact with residents in these districts. The more than $12,000,000 saved from these reductions should be shifted by the County Executive 50% to other agencies and departments for quality of life improvements in these districts, including Community Partnerships, Health and Human Services, Housing and Community Affairs, and Recreation; and 50% to a new Community Safety Grants Program that would award grants to residents and local organizations in districts 3 and 4 to complete projects that improve public safety, improve economic conditions and alleviate poverty, and increase community pride.”

Silver Spring is district 3. Wheaton is 4.

There is your Task Force in action. This is what your local government supports. Has it happened yet? Not officially, I believe. The current rhetoric against officers, however, has led to extreme shortages in that district, with very few recruits to fill the gaps.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2022 20:32     Subject: 62 yo man killed in Silver Spring garage

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I lived in downtown Silver Spring for 10 years (2000 to 2010). Sometimes I had to work late and I was never comfortable coming out of the metro station at 10pm and walking to my apartment. Often my husband would come get me.

Sad that it hasn't changed.


Sadly it hasn't. They arrested a man for attempted rape at the Silver Spring metro in July for example:
https://www.wmata.com/about/news/Arrest-Silver-Spring-Attempted-Rape.cfm

But if you take out all the violent crime, Silver Spring is a very safe place!


At 3 a.m. People, you have to watch yourself at night!


Nice victim-blaming there!