Anonymous
12/19/2022 13:18
Subject: Antisemitism and the NYT crossword
Anonymous wrote:Both the editor and the owner of the NYT are of Jewish descent, so it seems really unlikely that it has anti-Semitic intentions. If the puzzle is intentional, then it was unlikely an official act. I'm pretty sure those are made by computer and no one even looks at the shape. I think the recent hit pieces on Hasidim and Israel are just the unfortunate misguided "both-sidesing" that has invaded most of mainstream media lately.
You are complicit if you are trying to convince other people that this shape was computer generated and no one noticed.
I am stunned by the excuses here.
Also: what source are you quoting that the NYT crossword puzzle is computer generated and has no editor/s?
Anonymous
12/19/2022 13:18
Subject: Antisemitism and the NYT crossword
*too
Anonymous
12/19/2022 13:17
Subject: Re:Antisemitism and the NYT crossword
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it’s an unfortunate accident and they should address it and apologize for the accidental offense. (There’s is actually a whole thing about accidentally creating a swastika pattern in quilts and I can imagine the crossword layout presents similar issues. Nevertheless, they shouldn’t ignore it!)
They are ignoring it, and other media outlets are ignoring it. Why is that?
Because … it’s not newsworthy
I thought swastikas were bad. Apparently we are cool with them now.
58 - Boxcars
60 - Brandenburg Gate, the entrance to the Reichstag
88 - Group led by Darth Sideous ( the Emperor in Star Wars) — the cross word is too low resolution to see if this fits, but my first answer would be “stormtroopers”.
7 down is a reference to Syd Barrett of Pink Floyd. Their wall concerts were openly antisemitic, with the fascists of the “wall” being adorned with Stars of David and a Hitleresque fascist leader — with Roger Waters being a open antisemite and hater of Israel.
Lots of various references to Islam throughout.
Not a chance any of this was accidental.
This is one of the most idiotic posts that I've read on DCUM. I cannot believe that people are up in arms about this.
And BTW, the mere existence of Islam is not anti-semitic. So tired of the blatant, socially acceptable islamophobia in these posts. You're not making the point that you think you are.
No comment on the rest of it, but 88 down is clearly to short to be stormtroopers, which is easy to see. It's probably Siths.
Anonymous
12/19/2022 13:14
Subject: Re:Antisemitism and the NYT crossword
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it’s an unfortunate accident and they should address it and apologize for the accidental offense. (There’s is actually a whole thing about accidentally creating a swastika pattern in quilts and I can imagine the crossword layout presents similar issues. Nevertheless, they shouldn’t ignore it!)
They are ignoring it, and other media outlets are ignoring it. Why is that?
Because … it’s not newsworthy
I thought swastikas were bad. Apparently we are cool with them now.
58 - Boxcars
60 - Brandenburg Gate, the entrance to the Reichstag
88 - Group led by Darth Sideous ( the Emperor in Star Wars) — the cross word is too low resolution to see if this fits, but my first answer would be “stormtroopers”.
7 down is a reference to Syd Barrett of Pink Floyd. Their wall concerts were openly antisemitic, with the fascists of the “wall” being adorned with Stars of David and a Hitleresque fascist leader — with Roger Waters being a open antisemite and hater of Israel.
Lots of various references to Islam throughout.
Not a chance any of this was accidental.
This is one of the most idiotic posts that I've read on DCUM. I cannot believe that people are up in arms about this.
And BTW, the mere existence of Islam is not anti-semitic. So tired of the blatant, socially acceptable islamophobia in these posts. You're not making the point that you think you are.
Anonymous
12/19/2022 13:14
Subject: Re:Antisemitism and the NYT crossword
Anonymous wrote:If you're wondering if you should be concerned about this, please note that the TMZ, Fox, and the Daily Mail are the journalistic organizations pushing it as a big deal.
This is 100% a false flag campaign, designed to stir up certain resentments and divisions. Use your brains people. Someone is trying to set up an opportunity for Trump or Desantis or similar to be able to say "the antisemitic NYT" in order to discredit valid reporting in the future.
This is not a thing.
A false flag operation is an act committed with the intent of disguising the actual source of responsibility and pinning blame on another party.
So who is responsible for the false flag here?
Anonymous
12/19/2022 13:08
Subject: Re:Antisemitism and the NYT crossword
If you're wondering if you should be concerned about this, please note that the TMZ, Fox, and the Daily Mail are the journalistic organizations pushing it as a big deal.
This is 100% a false flag campaign, designed to stir up certain resentments and divisions. Use your brains people. Someone is trying to set up an opportunity for Trump or Desantis or similar to be able to say "the antisemitic NYT" in order to discredit valid reporting in the future.
This is not a thing.
This is 100% a false flag campaign, designed to stir up certain resentments and divisions. Use your brains people. Someone is trying to set up an opportunity for Trump or Desantis or similar to be able to say "the antisemitic NYT" in order to discredit valid reporting in the future.
This is not a thing.
Anonymous
12/19/2022 13:05
Subject: Antisemitism and the NYT crossword
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is the constructor’s note: “ Thrilled to have my first Sunday puzzle in The Times! This grid features one of my favorite open middles that I’ve made as it pulls from a variety of subject areas. I had originally tried to make it work in a 15x15 grid but then decided to expand the grid out to a Sunday-size puzzle with a fun whirlpool shape. Hope you enjoy!”
I believe him. He saw a whirlpool. Not everyone sees swastikas everywhere.
... which is why diversity matters. because "not everyone" sees it - but every single jewish person does.
Do you really think the NYT is non-diverse in that particular respect?
I wouldn't have until this incident. But please, tell me about how Jews are overrepresented in media and also how we are just being too darn oversensitive here.
Anonymous
12/19/2022 13:02
Subject: Antisemitism and the NYT crossword
Both the editor and the owner of the NYT are of Jewish descent, so it seems really unlikely that it has anti-Semitic intentions. If the puzzle is intentional, then it was unlikely an official act. I'm pretty sure those are made by computer and no one even looks at the shape. I think the recent hit pieces on Hasidim and Israel are just the unfortunate misguided "both-sidesing" that has invaded most of mainstream media lately.
Anonymous
12/19/2022 13:02
Subject: Re:Antisemitism and the NYT crossword
This is the stuff they mean when they say anti-Semitism is on the rise.
Anonymous
12/19/2022 12:57
Subject: Antisemitism and the NYT crossword
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is the constructor’s note: “ Thrilled to have my first Sunday puzzle in The Times! This grid features one of my favorite open middles that I’ve made as it pulls from a variety of subject areas. I had originally tried to make it work in a 15x15 grid but then decided to expand the grid out to a Sunday-size puzzle with a fun whirlpool shape. Hope you enjoy!”
I believe him. He saw a whirlpool. Not everyone sees swastikas everywhere.
... which is why diversity matters. because "not everyone" sees it - but every single jewish person does.
I agree with you. I’m not Jewish and never would have seen it without someone else pointing it out.
I see what you did there.
Anonymous
12/19/2022 12:55
Subject: Antisemitism and the NYT crossword
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is the constructor’s note: “ Thrilled to have my first Sunday puzzle in The Times! This grid features one of my favorite open middles that I’ve made as it pulls from a variety of subject areas. I had originally tried to make it work in a 15x15 grid but then decided to expand the grid out to a Sunday-size puzzle with a fun whirlpool shape. Hope you enjoy!”
I believe him. He saw a whirlpool. Not everyone sees swastikas everywhere.
... which is why diversity matters. because "not everyone" sees it - but every single jewish person does.
I agree with you. I’m not Jewish and never would have seen it without someone else pointing it out.
Anonymous
12/19/2022 12:40
Subject: Antisemitism and the NYT crossword
If you read every question, some of them are also higly suspect IMO:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11552265/...kkah-shaped-like-swastika.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11552265/...kkah-shaped-like-swastika.html
Anonymous
12/19/2022 12:29
Subject: Antisemitism and the NYT crossword
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is the constructor’s note: “ Thrilled to have my first Sunday puzzle in The Times! This grid features one of my favorite open middles that I’ve made as it pulls from a variety of subject areas. I had originally tried to make it work in a 15x15 grid but then decided to expand the grid out to a Sunday-size puzzle with a fun whirlpool shape. Hope you enjoy!”
I believe him. He saw a whirlpool. Not everyone sees swastikas everywhere.
... which is why diversity matters. because "not everyone" sees it - but every single jewish person does.
Do you really think the NYT is non-diverse in that particular respect?
Anonymous
12/19/2022 12:27
Subject: Re:Antisemitism and the NYT crossword
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it’s an unfortunate accident and they should address it and apologize for the accidental offense. (There’s is actually a whole thing about accidentally creating a swastika pattern in quilts and I can imagine the crossword layout presents similar issues. Nevertheless, they shouldn’t ignore it!)
Jewish and agree it's probably an unfortunate accident but how in the heck did no one catch this - it's obvious on first glance.
Anyone who sees a swastika in this crossword is just looking for something to be offended about. It says more about you, if you see a swastika, than it does about the crossword.
Sunday's tone-deaf puzzle debuted with a ton of criticism -- featuring a massive swastika in the dead center of the grid. The puzzle's designer described it as a simple "fun whirlpool shape," but obviously not everyone had the same thoughts.
Many blasted NYT for the antisemitic design -- regardless of whether or not it was intentional ... with one saying, "How did this get approved without somebody noticing?" and another noting, "A hidden Happy Chanukah message in today's @nytimes crossword?"
https://www.tmz.com/2022/12/19/new-york-times-crossword-swastika-design-hanukkah/
Of course, pp. We are the jerks for noticing.
Anonymous
12/19/2022 12:13
Subject: Antisemitism and the NYT crossword
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is the constructor’s note: “ Thrilled to have my first Sunday puzzle in The Times! This grid features one of my favorite open middles that I’ve made as it pulls from a variety of subject areas. I had originally tried to make it work in a 15x15 grid but then decided to expand the grid out to a Sunday-size puzzle with a fun whirlpool shape. Hope you enjoy!”
I believe him. He saw a whirlpool. Not everyone sees swastikas everywhere.
... which is why diversity matters. because "not everyone" sees it - but every single jewish person does.
Oh.