Anonymous
12/17/2022 17:17
Subject: Re:Starting a "nonprofit" in high school
Anonymous wrote:“I hate this lying transparent scam why don’t colleges see through this?”
Translation: I am mad that I didn’t get off my ass and set this up for my kid.
This made me laugh-- thanks!
Anonymous
12/17/2022 16:49
Subject: Starting a "nonprofit" in high school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A unifying theme among ED admits from our Big 3 school (those that have posted their ED to social media) seems to be that they "started a nonprofit." One or two I have seen seem fulsome and ongoing. Others, not so much.
Is this the latest "angle" parents in the DMV are encouraging?
Good works, even if done for a short period of time, are still worthwhile. And not all efforts will be successful. But anecdotally, it is curious.
It is pathetic if causes and disadvantaged people are being used, in some transactional scam to misrepresent status-seeking teens as altruistic.
What a sad reason for bringing your kid to humanitarian work . These are likely the same parents who practically vomit when they hear their child wants to “waste” her degree (AKA “their investment”) on social work or teaching.
Do you see how repellent you are?
I hope the schools see right through this tactic, and reject such kids with gusto.
Not that PP but you could view it as win-win, the kids are doing some good and getting some (probably overstated) benefits out of it.
Anonymous
12/17/2022 16:13
Subject: Starting a "nonprofit" in high school
Anonymous wrote:Relevant here:
https://thecriticalreader.com/adultification/
"So what happens after high school graduation? The kids who run foundations/ non-profits/ programs, at least in my super competitive silicon valley suburb, don’t go on to keep up this facade for the rest of their lives (why would they?). Most of the kids in my area, myself included, went on to major in econ/CS and sell our souls out to a giant tech company/ investment bank/ consulting firm after graduation. Despite our liberal political inclinations, few Stanford students graduate and truly go on to advocate for the communities they supposedly dedicated themselves to in high school. Sure, there are some exceptions.
But for the most part, there’s a huge campus mentality of “ditching your high school self” and “getting to live a little for the next 4 years” on the Farm because a good portion of us–especially unhooked applicants like myself–spent almost all of our high school years to get into schools like Stanford.
For the record, lots of my supplements (including my Stanford one) talked about how “I was driven to empower students from East San Jose/ Oakland from the beginning of my journey,” but clearly, that’s not the case. And [admissions officers] never noticed, as both my Stanford and Yale regional AO gave me hand-written, physical notes in my acceptance packages telling me how they “could just feel my enthusiasm for using art as a praxis of empowerment.”
. But of course.. It didn't need a tell-all to bring out this truth. Anyone who thought otherwise is a fool.
Anonymous
12/17/2022 16:05
Subject: Starting a "nonprofit" in high school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Even adults who want to start a non-profit and who get real advice are advised that is is always better to join forces with an established non profit doing the same thing. Unless you have found a truly unserved niche, starting your own is wasting overhead and energy that could go to the cause.
The adults who start their own non-profits often have no experience whatsoever, but believe they're smarter than the people who have been working in the field for years. These "social entrepeneurs" are the parents of the same kids who start their own non-profits. If there's any justice at all, they'll end up in the big house with SBF.
It's pretty easy to do the paperwork and get it approved. Its not very expensive at all.
Anonymous
12/17/2022 16:05
Subject: Re:Starting a "nonprofit" in high school
Anonymous wrote:What do you need to back this up?
My Big3 daughter's friends all have "non-profits" clubs at school but all they do is make up a name and and put it on their resume.
They never even met as a club.
What do the successful ones actually do?
Completely false.
Anonymous
12/17/2022 16:01
Subject: Starting a "nonprofit" in high school
Relevant here:
https://thecriticalreader.com/adultification/
"So what happens after high school graduation? The kids who run foundations/ non-profits/ programs, at least in my super competitive silicon valley suburb, don’t go on to keep up this facade for the rest of their lives (why would they?). Most of the kids in my area, myself included, went on to major in econ/CS and sell our souls out to a giant tech company/ investment bank/ consulting firm after graduation. Despite our liberal political inclinations, few Stanford students graduate and truly go on to advocate for the communities they supposedly dedicated themselves to in high school. Sure, there are some exceptions.
But for the most part, there’s a huge campus mentality of “ditching your high school self” and “getting to live a little for the next 4 years” on the Farm because a good portion of us–especially unhooked applicants like myself–spent almost all of our high school years to get into schools like Stanford.
For the record, lots of my supplements (including my Stanford one) talked about how “I was driven to empower students from East San Jose/ Oakland from the beginning of my journey,” but clearly, that’s not the case. And [admissions officers] never noticed, as both my Stanford and Yale regional AO gave me hand-written, physical notes in my acceptance packages telling me how they “could just feel my enthusiasm for using art as a praxis of empowerment.”
https://thecriticalreader.com/adultification/
"So what happens after high school graduation? The kids who run foundations/ non-profits/ programs, at least in my super competitive silicon valley suburb, don’t go on to keep up this facade for the rest of their lives (why would they?). Most of the kids in my area, myself included, went on to major in econ/CS and sell our souls out to a giant tech company/ investment bank/ consulting firm after graduation. Despite our liberal political inclinations, few Stanford students graduate and truly go on to advocate for the communities they supposedly dedicated themselves to in high school. Sure, there are some exceptions.
But for the most part, there’s a huge campus mentality of “ditching your high school self” and “getting to live a little for the next 4 years” on the Farm because a good portion of us–especially unhooked applicants like myself–spent almost all of our high school years to get into schools like Stanford.
For the record, lots of my supplements (including my Stanford one) talked about how “I was driven to empower students from East San Jose/ Oakland from the beginning of my journey,” but clearly, that’s not the case. And [admissions officers] never noticed, as both my Stanford and Yale regional AO gave me hand-written, physical notes in my acceptance packages telling me how they “could just feel my enthusiasm for using art as a praxis of empowerment.”
Anonymous
12/17/2022 16:00
Subject: Starting a "nonprofit" in high school
Anonymous wrote:Yes we did this. Started early like 9th grade. Not super early. Last kid continued it and frankly using it on resumes for employers still. Had a law firm set up as a non profit. Did actual work to raise money like car washes and gift wrapping. Kids all at Ivies. Others I know are in at Dartmouth etc.
Clearly an angle to distinguish your application. We went to a foreign country over spring break and bought items there with the money to deliver to children ourselves.
I do think it has become a crowded trade. Meaning more and more people doing it.
Really important to get press coverage if you can.
Key is to show something tangible. Apparently level 1 non profits that are started raise like $25,000-$50,000 or accomplish something nationally. We raised around $10,000 but had international impact. We were probably tier 2. Combined with other tier 2 activities.
Gross.
Anonymous
12/17/2022 16:00
Subject: Starting a "nonprofit" in high school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A unifying theme among ED admits from our Big 3 school (those that have posted their ED to social media) seems to be that they "started a nonprofit." One or two I have seen seem fulsome and ongoing. Others, not so much.
Is this the latest "angle" parents in the DMV are encouraging?
Good works, even if done for a short period of time, are still worthwhile. And not all efforts will be successful. But anecdotally, it is curious.
It is pathetic if causes and disadvantaged people are being used, in some transactional scam to misrepresent status-seeking teens as altruistic.
What a sad reason for bringing your kid to humanitarian work . These are likely the same parents who practically vomit when they hear their child wants to “waste” her degree (AKA “their investment”) on social work or teaching.
Do you see how repellent you are?
I hope the schools see right through this tactic, and reject such kids with gusto.
This.
I know a kid at HYPS who started a 501(c)3 NPO to teach GED classes formerly incarcerated gang members (never mind that there are multiple organizations doing this). He was accepted to 2 of HYPS as an Ethnic Studies major -- of course, the moment he stepped onto campus, he declared Econ and is going into PE after graduation...
Anonymous
12/17/2022 15:54
Subject: Starting a "nonprofit" in high school
I’d be much more impressed by a student who found an existing nonprofit that aligned with their needs and went all in on fundraising/volunteering/etc. I’ve seen so many kids start their own 501(c)(3) where is it basically a vanity project and not adding anything to the community good.
Anonymous
12/17/2022 15:45
Subject: Starting a "nonprofit" in high school
Anonymous wrote:Even adults who want to start a non-profit and who get real advice are advised that is is always better to join forces with an established non profit doing the same thing. Unless you have found a truly unserved niche, starting your own is wasting overhead and energy that could go to the cause.
The adults who start their own non-profits often have no experience whatsoever, but believe they're smarter than the people who have been working in the field for years. These "social entrepeneurs" are the parents of the same kids who start their own non-profits. If there's any justice at all, they'll end up in the big house with SBF.
Anonymous
12/17/2022 15:02
Subject: Starting a "nonprofit" in high school
Anonymous wrote:A unifying theme among ED admits from our Big 3 school (those that have posted their ED to social media) seems to be that they "started a nonprofit." One or two I have seen seem fulsome and ongoing. Others, not so much.
Is this the latest "angle" parents in the DMV are encouraging?
Good works, even if done for a short period of time, are still worthwhile. And not all efforts will be successful. But anecdotally, it is curious.
It is pathetic if causes and disadvantaged people are being used, in some transactional scam to misrepresent status-seeking teens as altruistic.
What a sad reason for bringing your kid to humanitarian work . These are likely the same parents who practically vomit when they hear their child wants to “waste” her degree (AKA “their investment”) on social work or teaching.
Do you see how repellent you are?
I hope the schools see right through this tactic, and reject such kids with gusto.
Anonymous
12/17/2022 14:49
Subject: Starting a "nonprofit" in high school
It's not hard or expensive to do. If you want donations, or SSL hours you need to have a non-profit. I started one. It was pretty easy.
Anonymous
12/17/2022 14:26
Subject: Re:Starting a "nonprofit" in high school
Anonymous wrote:This could not be any more cynical. The parents of these kids should shut it down.
It’s the parents running these non-profits in their kids’ names!
My MCPS kid did some SSL hours during Covid for one of these organizations. In name and in theory, the non-profit is ‘student-run’. I have seen articles about it that talk about how it’s a student-led organization. But, when my kid did the SSL, all the contact was with the mom of the student. The mom organized the SSL, the mom answered emails.
Anonymous
12/17/2022 14:18
Subject: Re:Starting a "nonprofit" in high school
Anonymous wrote:“I hate this lying transparent scam why don’t colleges see through this?”
Translation: I am mad that I didn’t get off my ass and set this up for my kid.
So you admit that this is akin to the proverbial science project completed by the parent, not a true reflection of student initiative, and that substantial consideration of parent work product in college admissions would be unfair, not to mention foolish on the part of AOs?
Anonymous
12/17/2022 14:08
Subject: Re:Starting a "nonprofit" in high school
“I hate this lying transparent scam why don’t colleges see through this?”
Translation: I am mad that I didn’t get off my ass and set this up for my kid.
Translation: I am mad that I didn’t get off my ass and set this up for my kid.