Anonymous
Post 12/06/2022 10:24     Subject: Re:APS Free and Reduced Meals - New Report

Anonymous wrote:I'm really surprised Williamsburg is so low. I know it draws from a very wealthy area, but 2.43% is so low - especially compared to Hamm and Swanson. Did Hamm take all the "poor" people from Williamsburg when it opened?

Also, my kids went to Glebe - they are in HS now. Their numbers are much lower than they used to be, too.


It's so low b/c it only pulls from these:

NOTTINGHAM 4.63%
JAMESTOWN 4.57%
DISCOVERY 2.88%
TUCKAHOE 2.68%

Anonymous
Post 12/06/2022 10:19     Subject: APS Free and Reduced Meals - New Report

The change in Drew is not surprising since Montessori left.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2022 09:47     Subject: APS Free and Reduced Meals - New Report

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Anonymous wrote:The most embarrassing is HB Woodlawn at 12%. There’s no reason for that to be lower than the county average.


Here we go again with the HB bashing. We get it. Your kid didn’t get in and you’re jealous. I’ll bet your kid doesn’t qualify for reduced price meals either.


DP. Look around you at where that school is located and the resources it takes to run it. If the best you can come up with is “you’re jealous,” you need to take a moment and really reflect.


What does this mean? It's in the location nobody else wanted to send their kid to...


It’s located walking distance from hundreds of affordable housing units and other kinds of multi-family housing. It should draw more than 12 percent. If the application process doesn’t result in a student population more reflective of the county population, then the application process needs to change. If the program can’t serve a population more reflective of our county, then the program needs to change. There’s no good reason why an option high school in a public school system should be so out of sync with the demographics of the entire county student population.
the lack of sports and hours are quite limiting for many families. As a rising middle school parent I am thinking about whether my kid will be good to get himself out the door for a 9am start time while I’m working. Other middle schools start times make that a moot point. If we had younger siblings at home that needed to be picked up or watched the HB schedule wouldn’t work either.

Also more difficult to work after school if you get out at 3:50


Great points- the limited hours sound like a great place to start a review.


Limited hours? They aren’t going fewer hours, it’s just shifted later. It’s fine not to like that or see it as problematic, but HB hours aren’t “limited.”


Ok. Let’s swap “limited hours” for “potentially limiting hours.”
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2022 09:37     Subject: APS Free and Reduced Meals - New Report

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Anonymous wrote:The most embarrassing is HB Woodlawn at 12%. There’s no reason for that to be lower than the county average.


Here we go again with the HB bashing. We get it. Your kid didn’t get in and you’re jealous. I’ll bet your kid doesn’t qualify for reduced price meals either.


DP. Look around you at where that school is located and the resources it takes to run it. If the best you can come up with is “you’re jealous,” you need to take a moment and really reflect.


What does this mean? It's in the location nobody else wanted to send their kid to...


It’s located walking distance from hundreds of affordable housing units and other kinds of multi-family housing. It should draw more than 12 percent. If the application process doesn’t result in a student population more reflective of the county population, then the application process needs to change. If the program can’t serve a population more reflective of our county, then the program needs to change. There’s no good reason why an option high school in a public school system should be so out of sync with the demographics of the entire county student population.
the lack of sports and hours are quite limiting for many families. As a rising middle school parent I am thinking about whether my kid will be good to get himself out the door for a 9am start time while I’m working. Other middle schools start times make that a moot point. If we had younger siblings at home that needed to be picked up or watched the HB schedule wouldn’t work either.

Also more difficult to work after school if you get out at 3:50


Great points- the limited hours sound like a great place to start a review.


Limited hours? They aren’t going fewer hours, it’s just shifted later. It’s fine not to like that or see it as problematic, but HB hours aren’t “limited.”
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2022 09:30     Subject: APS Free and Reduced Meals - New Report

What is “Arlington Community” with 1381 students enrolled? That’s not Arlington Community HS. It’s also way more than the number of full time students at the Career Center (549), which is also missing from the list.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2022 09:18     Subject: APS Free and Reduced Meals - New Report

It would be fascinating to see WMS/Yorktown stats if many of the families in 22207/22213 didn't send their kids to private schools for MS and HS.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2022 09:13     Subject: APS Free and Reduced Meals - New Report

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Anonymous wrote:APS has posted this year's free and reduced meals report: https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/FREE-REDUCED-OCTOBER-31-2022.pdf

This is the first time these numbers have been reported since 2019, so we are seeing the impact of the school moves, pandemic changes, etc. Barrett, Barcroft, and Drew are all significantly higher.

BARRETT 74.91%
RANDOLPH 74.88%
BARCROFT 74.84%
CARLIN SPRINGS 74.82%
DREW 74.78%
KENMORE 51.34%
HOFFMAN BOSTON 46.38%
CAMPBELL 45.65%
JEFFERSON 42.05%
ABINGDON 40.69%
WAKEFIELD 39.59%
GUNSTON 36.81%
INNOVATION 35.98%
ARL. TRADITIONAL 34.78%
ARLINGTON COMM 34.61%
ESCUELA KEY 32.63%
ALICE WEST FLEET 32.11%
LONG BRANCH 31.68%
OAKRIDGE 31.62%
CLAREMONT 27.64%
MONTESSORI 27.60%
WASHINGTON LIB 24.34%
DOROTHY HAMM 19.11%
SWANSON 17.56%
ASHLAWN 17.21%
SCIENCE FOCUS 14.78%
YORKTOWN 14.40%
GLEBE 13.04%
HB WOODLAWN 12.15%
TAYLOR 8.02%
CARDINAL 6.37%
NOTTINGHAM 4.63%
JAMESTOWN 4.57%
DISCOVERY 2.88%
TUCKAHOE 2.68%
WILLIAMSBURG 2.43%
TOTAL 30.13%


Glad HB is representative of the student population /s


The HB and Williamsburg statistics are scandalous. Williamsburg is a MIDDLE school.


Um what? What does being a middle school have to do with it? Why would WMS be much different than the high income elementary schools that feeds it?
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2022 09:12     Subject: APS Free and Reduced Meals - New Report

It's also amazing to me how white people are SO scared of the high FRL schools.

When you live in South Arlington, you are not scared of them. And you know that your child can have a terrific experience anywhere. We have friends who choose to go to Drew this year (vice Abingdon) and are having an outstanding experience.

But of course, you should have to post your zip code when entering these discussions. It seems 22207 has a lot of opinions about what happens with 22204 and think their opinion should trump the opinion of those of us who actually live here.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2022 09:09     Subject: APS Free and Reduced Meals - New Report

I love how people think that getting rid of the option schools will magically balance the FRL rates at other schools.

No. Williamsburg and Tuckahoe will not all of sudden have more poverty because you got rid of Spanish Immersion.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2022 09:03     Subject: APS Free and Reduced Meals - New Report

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Anonymous wrote:The most embarrassing is HB Woodlawn at 12%. There’s no reason for that to be lower than the county average.


Here we go again with the HB bashing. We get it. Your kid didn’t get in and you’re jealous. I’ll bet your kid doesn’t qualify for reduced price meals either.


DP. Look around you at where that school is located and the resources it takes to run it. If the best you can come up with is “you’re jealous,” you need to take a moment and really reflect.


What does this mean? It's in the location nobody else wanted to send their kid to...


It’s located walking distance from hundreds of affordable housing units and other kinds of multi-family housing. It should draw more than 12 percent. If the application process doesn’t result in a student population more reflective of the county population, then the application process needs to change. If the program can’t serve a population more reflective of our county, then the program needs to change. There’s no good reason why an option high school in a public school system should be so out of sync with the demographics of the entire county student population.


It’s a county wide program. There’s no reason why it should be more open to the neighborhood than anywhere else. The county allocates seats to every elementary school equally and proportionately, which is fair.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2022 08:57     Subject: APS Free and Reduced Meals - New Report

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington parents have been whining about the public school system for decades. What’s that saying “nobody goes there anymore, it’s too crowded?” That applies to all of you.


I doubt this is what people have been whining about.


I had kids in the system from the late 1980s through the entire first decade of the 2000s. Believe me, it was.


These statistics are not reflective of your kids’ experience in ES in the 80s and 90s. The whole point of this thread is how the disparity has increased rapidly in some schools post-pandemic.


Nope. Even then there was a huge disparity, which was a constant source of discussion. There’s really no material difference today. Look it up.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2022 08:57     Subject: APS Free and Reduced Meals - New Report

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:The most embarrassing is HB Woodlawn at 12%. There’s no reason for that to be lower than the county average.


Here we go again with the HB bashing. We get it. Your kid didn’t get in and you’re jealous. I’ll bet your kid doesn’t qualify for reduced price meals either.


DP. Look around you at where that school is located and the resources it takes to run it. If the best you can come up with is “you’re jealous,” you need to take a moment and really reflect.


What does this mean? It's in the location nobody else wanted to send their kid to...


It’s located walking distance from hundreds of affordable housing units and other kinds of multi-family housing. It should draw more than 12 percent. If the application process doesn’t result in a student population more reflective of the county population, then the application process needs to change. If the program can’t serve a population more reflective of our county, then the program needs to change. There’s no good reason why an option high school in a public school system should be so out of sync with the demographics of the entire county student population.
the lack of sports and hours are quite limiting for many families. As a rising middle school parent I am thinking about whether my kid will be good to get himself out the door for a 9am start time while I’m working. Other middle schools start times make that a moot point. If we had younger siblings at home that needed to be picked up or watched the HB schedule wouldn’t work either.

Also more difficult to work after school if you get out at 3:50


Great points- the limited hours sound like a great place to start a review.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2022 08:48     Subject: APS Free and Reduced Meals - New Report

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The most embarrassing is HB Woodlawn at 12%. There’s no reason for that to be lower than the county average.


Here we go again with the HB bashing. We get it. Your kid didn’t get in and you’re jealous. I’ll bet your kid doesn’t qualify for reduced price meals either.


DP. Look around you at where that school is located and the resources it takes to run it. If the best you can come up with is “you’re jealous,” you need to take a moment and really reflect.


What does this mean? It's in the location nobody else wanted to send their kid to...


It’s located walking distance from hundreds of affordable housing units and other kinds of multi-family housing. It should draw more than 12 percent. If the application process doesn’t result in a student population more reflective of the county population, then the application process needs to change. If the program can’t serve a population more reflective of our county, then the program needs to change. There’s no good reason why an option high school in a public school system should be so out of sync with the demographics of the entire county student population.
the lack of sports and hours are quite limiting for many families. As a rising middle school parent I am thinking about whether my kid will be good to get himself out the door for a 9am start time while I’m working. Other middle schools start times make that a moot point. If we had younger siblings at home that needed to be picked up or watched the HB schedule wouldn’t work either.

Also more difficult to work after school if you get out at 3:50
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2022 08:47     Subject: APS Free and Reduced Meals - New Report

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The most embarrassing is HB Woodlawn at 12%. There’s no reason for that to be lower than the county average.


Here we go again with the HB bashing. We get it. Your kid didn’t get in and you’re jealous. I’ll bet your kid doesn’t qualify for reduced price meals either.


DP. Look around you at where that school is located and the resources it takes to run it. If the best you can come up with is “you’re jealous,” you need to take a moment and really reflect.


What does this mean? It's in the location nobody else wanted to send their kid to...


It’s located walking distance from hundreds of affordable housing units and other kinds of multi-family housing. It should draw more than 12 percent. If the application process doesn’t result in a student population more reflective of the county population, then the application process needs to change. If the program can’t serve a population more reflective of our county, then the program needs to change. There’s no good reason why an option high school in a public school system should be so out of sync with the demographics of the entire county student population.
the lack of sports and hours are quite limiting for many families. As a rising middle school parent I am thinking about whether my kid will be good to get himself out the door for a 9am start time while I’m working. Other middle schools start times make that a moot point. If we had younger siblings at home that needed to be picked up or watched the HB schedule wouldn’t work either.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2022 07:44     Subject: APS Free and Reduced Meals - New Report

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The most embarrassing is HB Woodlawn at 12%. There’s no reason for that to be lower than the county average.


Here we go again with the HB bashing. We get it. Your kid didn’t get in and you’re jealous. I’ll bet your kid doesn’t qualify for reduced price meals either.


DP. Look around you at where that school is located and the resources it takes to run it. If the best you can come up with is “you’re jealous,” you need to take a moment and really reflect.


What does this mean? It's in the location nobody else wanted to send their kid to...


It’s located walking distance from hundreds of affordable housing units and other kinds of multi-family housing. It should draw more than 12 percent. If the application process doesn’t result in a student population more reflective of the county population, then the application process needs to change. If the program can’t serve a population more reflective of our county, then the program needs to change. There’s no good reason why an option high school in a public school system should be so out of sync with the demographics of the entire county student population.