Anonymous wrote:Are ED decisions for VT today?

No. They were the second Friday in December last year, so I’m guessing maybe Dec 9th this year. Possible tomorrow but I haven’t seen anything.

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Think you're exactly right about this. I don't have data to back this up, but I would imagine that many high stat kids from NOVA aren't applying anymore. DS certainly doesn't meet the school's current admissions focus so he's not bothering to apply. I think TJs class of 22 had maybe 10 enroll last year.

Thanks for the laugh. According to you, almost 1/2 of TJ's class last year enrolled and you claim VT isn't popular with in state, high stat students? Come on. Depending on intended major (and of course for kids who aren't interested in W&M), it continues to be the #1 or #2 choice. All their fall admissions events were oversubscribed and sold out weeks in advance.

What are you talking about? I said 10 kids from TJ's class of 2022 enrolled at VT. Being the "premier" STEM school in Virginia only sends10 kids to the state's tech flagship? That's messed up.

I think they assumed that "22" was the total number of TJ graduates and 10 is "almost half" of 22 so....

Are ED decisions for VT today?

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Anonymous wrote:Would you go test optional with a 1230 SAT and 3.7 w GPA?

They ain’t getting in. This is awful

This would be 3.2 wGPA w/o fluff classes such as PE, art etc. which means about 2.8 uGPA which means this student had almost all Bs with few Cs. Ain't getting in.

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Anonymous wrote:TJ doesn't represent the entire state - hell it doesn't even represent Fairfax County.

I didn't say it represented the entire state. Dear Lord. I was simply speculating that high stat kids in NOVA were getting turned off to Tech engineering by their recent admission trends focusing on first gen. Simply used recent TJ numbers as an example.

Only the bottom TJ kids are even interested in VaTech. In fact, TJ grads are NOT interested in colleges/universities period including UVA since it has weak CS/Engineering.

Anonymous wrote:TJ doesn't represent the entire state - hell it doesn't even represent Fairfax County.

I didn't say it represented the entire state. Dear Lord. I was simply speculating that high stat kids in NOVA were getting turned off to Tech engineering by their recent admission trends focusing on first gen. Simply used recent TJ numbers as an example.

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Anonymous wrote:At VT, this will depend on two issues:

1. Did you and your child's other parent go to college?
2. Is your child an URM?

Those two things will matter a lot.

Does it help if only one parent went to college? Sort of a half-way first generation?

Nope. Both parents need to be non-college educated to qualify as "first generation."

Slow down - that answer is not necessarily correct. Particularly if college educated parent wasn’t involved in students life. I am not advocating students game the system but they should check at the specific university to which they are applying. Some even say first gen is applicable if parents are college educated in another country.

Google this and talk to the college, don’t rely on the board for final determination.

Someone is not first generation if their parents went to college in another country. Please don't spread misinformation.
Or if you have a link, provide it.

Center for First Gen Student Success website states “Many colleges and universities are beginning to consider students with parents who attended international universities as first-gen. We suggest contacting your admissions counselor, academic advisor, first-gen student programs office, or a trusted person on your campus to learn more.”

Again, my point is don’t trust this board, me included. But it is not as obvious an issue as one may believe. And even if you can’t get an admissions bump, kids can get access to helpful support that could be life changing to a student.

I believe the university of Pennsylvania got flak for doing this last year.

TJ doesn't represent the entire state - hell it doesn't even represent Fairfax County.

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Think you're exactly right about this. I don't have data to back this up, but I would imagine that many high stat kids from NOVA aren't applying anymore. DS certainly doesn't meet the school's current admissions focus so he's not bothering to apply. I think TJs class of 22 had maybe 10 enroll last year.

Thanks for the laugh. According to you, almost 1/2 of TJ's class last year enrolled and you claim VT isn't popular with in state, high stat students? Come on. Depending on intended major (and of course for kids who aren't interested in W&M), it continues to be the #1 or #2 choice. All their fall admissions events were oversubscribed and sold out weeks in advance.

What are you talking about? I said 10 kids from TJ's class of 2022 enrolled at VT. Being the "premier" STEM school in Virginia only sends10 kids to the state's tech flagship? That's messed up.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter had a 33 ACT (equivalent to 1510 on SAT) and a 3.5 from a DC private and was waitlisted last year. So, I don't think these stats will cut it. Sorry to be a downer.

My DD from MCPS got in with 1250 and 3.9w last year. But Business/Accounting not Engineering. I think it depends on major. She also had very good ECs. But definitely pleasantly surprised she got in.

The acceptance rate out of state is twice what the in state acceptance rate is.

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Anonymous wrote:I just don't see much of Virginia being terribly academic. I can't believe the biggest school in the state has OVER a 4.0 GPA as its average.

I just can't even. DCUM, never change.

There is definetly a bubble some live in.

The equivalent of T20 or bust. If not NOVA or T20/10 you won't have real academic learning and will live in poverty.

You are putting your own spin on what I said. A 4.0 GPA is extremely high especially as an average for a state's acceptance. I stand by the claim that there are not a lot of Virginia students that have 4.0 GPA's. I had the time to look up the stats and there are a huge number of transfers that get in with a 3.5 GPA average and then most of the kids that apply out of state also get in at much higher rates than in state. It's the first year Virginia kids as a whole that do not get in at high rates and need to have very high GPA's well over 4.0. I don't think there are a lot of kids outside of the Governor's schools that have over a 4.0 for all majors applied to.

Think you're exactly right about this. I don't have data to back this up, but I would imagine that many high stat kids from NOVA aren't applying anymore. DS certainly doesn't meet the school's current admissions focus so he's not bothering to apply. I think TJs class of 22 had maybe 10 enroll last year.

Thanks for the laugh. According to you, almost 1/2 of TJ's class last year enrolled and you claim VT isn't popular with in state, high stat students? Come on. Depending on intended major (and of course for kids who aren't interested in W&M), it continues to be the #1 or #2 choice. All their fall admissions events were oversubscribed and sold out weeks in advance.

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Anonymous wrote:Would you go test optional with a 1230 SAT and 3.7 w GPA?

They ain’t getting in. This is awful

This would be 3.2 wGPA w/o fluff classes such as PE, art etc. which means about 2.8 uGPA which means this student had almost all Bs with few Cs. Ain't getting in.

Anonymous wrote:Stats don’t determine everything for VT.
Apply and see.
Often huge draws from waitlist too.
Not bad to get first year classes done at UMW of JMU where classes are smaller, then transfer.
Expecting if your kid is socially independent and will join clubs.

Think you're exactly right about this. I don't have data to back this up, but I would imagine that many high stat kids from NOVA aren't applying anymore. DS certainly doesn't meet the school's current admissions focus so he's not bothering to apply. I think TJs class of 22 had maybe 10 enroll last year.

Stats don’t determine everything for VT.
Apply and see.
Often huge draws from waitlist too.
Not bad to get first year classes done at UMW of JMU where classes are smaller, then transfer.
Expecting if your kid is socially independent and will join clubs.