Anonymous
Post 12/02/2022 18:20     Subject: TJ Students by FCPS Pyramid 2022-23

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Anonymous wrote:The LCPS Academies model with kids going to their base school for History, English, PE, foreign Language/music, and then going to the Academy (or TJ in this case) for the other day to do Science, Math, Tech types of classes makes SO MUCH SENSE!

It allows kids to keep their base school connections, reduced commuting burdens, gives TWICE as many kids access to very top-level STEM classes/peers, and allows the specialty school to actually focus on the SPECIALTY (STEM) without being bogged down with kids who can't pass English or Spanish or whatever.

Let TJ focus on STEM and let twice as many kids have access.


It makes no sense at all.

Do you remember high school? At all?


I know it would loose it's cachet which is the whole point!
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2022 08:17     Subject: TJ Students by FCPS Pyramid 2022-23

Anonymous wrote:They need to put an upper bound on the percentage at these schools because it seems heavily skewed in favor of wealthier schools where people have the $$$ to buy enrichment. These programs should benefit all bright county residents, not unfairly benefit the wealthiest.


There is effectively an “upper bound,” due to the middle school quotas that ensure students from higher poverty areas get into TJ, even if they are less qualified.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2022 08:12     Subject: TJ Students by FCPS Pyramid 2022-23

They need to put an upper bound on the percentage at these schools because it seems heavily skewed in favor of wealthier schools where people have the $$$ to buy enrichment. These programs should benefit all bright county residents, not unfairly benefit the wealthiest.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2022 19:57     Subject: Re:TJ Students by FCPS Pyramid 2022-23

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Anonymous wrote:any idea about home school or out of county (Loudoun, PW) or private school


This is based on FCPS data about "transfers" within FCPS pyramids. The only other thing one can discern from this data is that 68% of current TJ students (1345 in total) live in Fairfax County and the other 32% presumably live in Arlington, FCC, Loudoun, and Prince William. It doesn't tell you whether the students were homeschooled or attended private school before attending TJ.


Interesting. Why does fcps open up TJ to other non FCPS students? Is that stipulated somewhere? With the demand of interest, doesn’t make sense.


TJ isn't an FCPS school, it's a governor's school. It's for all the districts that want it (not ACPS, they have declined).


In fact, FCPS numbers would go down to ~ 40-50% if PWC took all of their spots.


since the no of students is supposed to be allocated according to population of the counties/citi

It should be approximately:

Fairfax 40%, PWC 30%, Loudoun 20%, Arlington 9%, FCC 1%.


This will be the composition in 5 years.


No, the distance is a real deterrent. There's no way around it.


+1 they have trouble getting kids from southern Fairfax county to attend, that’s a lot closer than most of prince William


Lot of Indians are moving to PWC to gain admission to TJ.


I don't believe that, but that's what they did in Loudoun so maybe. How do you know?


There were hardly any Indians at the main bus stop (PWC) 10 years ago and it is almost all Indians now. That's how I know.


That would have nothing to do with TJ.


The bus stop is for the TJ students.


I see. It could still just be an overall influx in the area, with people now settling further out than Fairfax.
I think it is possible people could move for a year to specifically get an automatic spot from Prince William, but it would seem easier to just go to a weaker school in Fairfax.
I know of people in Loudoun who moved further west to get automatic spots.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2022 17:09     Subject: TJ Students by FCPS Pyramid 2022-23

Anonymous wrote:The LCPS Academies model with kids going to their base school for History, English, PE, foreign Language/music, and then going to the Academy (or TJ in this case) for the other day to do Science, Math, Tech types of classes makes SO MUCH SENSE!

It allows kids to keep their base school connections, reduced commuting burdens, gives TWICE as many kids access to very top-level STEM classes/peers, and allows the specialty school to actually focus on the SPECIALTY (STEM) without being bogged down with kids who can't pass English or Spanish or whatever.

Let TJ focus on STEM and let twice as many kids have access.


It makes no sense at all.

Do you remember high school? At all?
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2022 16:00     Subject: TJ Students by FCPS Pyramid 2022-23

The LCPS Academies model with kids going to their base school for History, English, PE, foreign Language/music, and then going to the Academy (or TJ in this case) for the other day to do Science, Math, Tech types of classes makes SO MUCH SENSE!

It allows kids to keep their base school connections, reduced commuting burdens, gives TWICE as many kids access to very top-level STEM classes/peers, and allows the specialty school to actually focus on the SPECIALTY (STEM) without being bogged down with kids who can't pass English or Spanish or whatever.

Let TJ focus on STEM and let twice as many kids have access.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2022 15:42     Subject: Re:TJ Students by FCPS Pyramid 2022-23

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Anonymous wrote:any idea about home school or out of county (Loudoun, PW) or private school


This is based on FCPS data about "transfers" within FCPS pyramids. The only other thing one can discern from this data is that 68% of current TJ students (1345 in total) live in Fairfax County and the other 32% presumably live in Arlington, FCC, Loudoun, and Prince William. It doesn't tell you whether the students were homeschooled or attended private school before attending TJ.


Interesting. Why does fcps open up TJ to other non FCPS students? Is that stipulated somewhere? With the demand of interest, doesn’t make sense.


TJ isn't an FCPS school, it's a governor's school. It's for all the districts that want it (not ACPS, they have declined).


In fact, FCPS numbers would go down to ~ 40-50% if PWC took all of their spots.


since the no of students is supposed to be allocated according to population of the counties/citi

It should be approximately:

Fairfax 40%, PWC 30%, Loudoun 20%, Arlington 9%, FCC 1%.


This will be the composition in 5 years.


No, the distance is a real deterrent. There's no way around it.


+1 they have trouble getting kids from southern Fairfax county to attend, that’s a lot closer than most of prince William


Lot of Indians are moving to PWC to gain admission to TJ.


I don't believe that, but that's what they did in Loudoun so maybe. How do you know?


There were hardly any Indians at the main bus stop (PWC) 10 years ago and it is almost all Indians now. That's how I know.


That would have nothing to do with TJ.


The bus stop is for the TJ students.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2022 14:42     Subject: Re:TJ Students by FCPS Pyramid 2022-23

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Anonymous wrote:any idea about home school or out of county (Loudoun, PW) or private school


This is based on FCPS data about "transfers" within FCPS pyramids. The only other thing one can discern from this data is that 68% of current TJ students (1345 in total) live in Fairfax County and the other 32% presumably live in Arlington, FCC, Loudoun, and Prince William. It doesn't tell you whether the students were homeschooled or attended private school before attending TJ.


Interesting. Why does fcps open up TJ to other non FCPS students? Is that stipulated somewhere? With the demand of interest, doesn’t make sense.


TJ isn't an FCPS school, it's a governor's school. It's for all the districts that want it (not ACPS, they have declined).


In fact, FCPS numbers would go down to ~ 40-50% if PWC took all of their spots.


since the no of students is supposed to be allocated according to population of the counties/citi

It should be approximately:

Fairfax 40%, PWC 30%, Loudoun 20%, Arlington 9%, FCC 1%.


This will be the composition in 5 years.


No, the distance is a real deterrent. There's no way around it.


+1 they have trouble getting kids from southern Fairfax county to attend, that’s a lot closer than most of prince William


Lot of Indians are moving to PWC to gain admission to TJ.


I don't believe that, but that's what they did in Loudoun so maybe. How do you know?


There were hardly any Indians at the main bus stop (PWC) 10 years ago and it is almost all Indians now. That's how I know.


That would have nothing to do with TJ.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2022 13:20     Subject: Re:TJ Students by FCPS Pyramid 2022-23

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Anonymous wrote:any idea about home school or out of county (Loudoun, PW) or private school


This is based on FCPS data about "transfers" within FCPS pyramids. The only other thing one can discern from this data is that 68% of current TJ students (1345 in total) live in Fairfax County and the other 32% presumably live in Arlington, FCC, Loudoun, and Prince William. It doesn't tell you whether the students were homeschooled or attended private school before attending TJ.


Interesting. Why does fcps open up TJ to other non FCPS students? Is that stipulated somewhere? With the demand of interest, doesn’t make sense.


TJ isn't an FCPS school, it's a governor's school. It's for all the districts that want it (not ACPS, they have declined).


In fact, FCPS numbers would go down to ~ 40-50% if PWC took all of their spots.


since the no of students is supposed to be allocated according to population of the counties/citi

It should be approximately:

Fairfax 40%, PWC 30%, Loudoun 20%, Arlington 9%, FCC 1%.


This will be the composition in 5 years.


No, the distance is a real deterrent. There's no way around it.


+1 they have trouble getting kids from southern Fairfax county to attend, that’s a lot closer than most of prince William


Lot of Indians are moving to PWC to gain admission to TJ.


I don't believe that, but that's what they did in Loudoun so maybe. How do you know?


There were hardly any Indians at the main bus stop (PWC) 10 years ago and it is almost all Indians now. That's how I know.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2022 10:50     Subject: Re:TJ Students by FCPS Pyramid 2022-23

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:any idea about home school or out of county (Loudoun, PW) or private school


This is based on FCPS data about "transfers" within FCPS pyramids. The only other thing one can discern from this data is that 68% of current TJ students (1345 in total) live in Fairfax County and the other 32% presumably live in Arlington, FCC, Loudoun, and Prince William. It doesn't tell you whether the students were homeschooled or attended private school before attending TJ.


Interesting. Why does fcps open up TJ to other non FCPS students? Is that stipulated somewhere? With the demand of interest, doesn’t make sense.


TJ isn't an FCPS school, it's a governor's school. It's for all the districts that want it (not ACPS, they have declined).


In fact, FCPS numbers would go down to ~ 40-50% if PWC took all of their spots.


since the no of students is supposed to be allocated according to population of the counties/citi

It should be approximately:

Fairfax 40%, PWC 30%, Loudoun 20%, Arlington 9%, FCC 1%.


This will be the composition in 5 years.


No, the distance is a real deterrent. There's no way around it.


+1 they have trouble getting kids from southern Fairfax county to attend, that’s a lot closer than most of prince William


Lot of Indians are moving to PWC to gain admission to TJ.


I don't believe that, but that's what they did in Loudoun so maybe. How do you know?
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2022 09:44     Subject: Re:TJ Students by FCPS Pyramid 2022-23

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:any idea about home school or out of county (Loudoun, PW) or private school


This is based on FCPS data about "transfers" within FCPS pyramids. The only other thing one can discern from this data is that 68% of current TJ students (1345 in total) live in Fairfax County and the other 32% presumably live in Arlington, FCC, Loudoun, and Prince William. It doesn't tell you whether the students were homeschooled or attended private school before attending TJ.


Interesting. Why does fcps open up TJ to other non FCPS students? Is that stipulated somewhere? With the demand of interest, doesn’t make sense.


TJ isn't an FCPS school, it's a governor's school. It's for all the districts that want it (not ACPS, they have declined).


In fact, FCPS numbers would go down to ~ 40-50% if PWC took all of their spots.


since the no of students is supposed to be allocated according to population of the counties/citi

It should be approximately:

Fairfax 40%, PWC 30%, Loudoun 20%, Arlington 9%, FCC 1%.


This will be the composition in 5 years.


No, the distance is a real deterrent. There's no way around it.


+1 they have trouble getting kids from southern Fairfax county to attend, that’s a lot closer than most of prince William


Lot of Indians are moving to PWC to gain admission to TJ.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2022 09:02     Subject: Re:TJ Students by FCPS Pyramid 2022-23

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:any idea about home school or out of county (Loudoun, PW) or private school


This is based on FCPS data about "transfers" within FCPS pyramids. The only other thing one can discern from this data is that 68% of current TJ students (1345 in total) live in Fairfax County and the other 32% presumably live in Arlington, FCC, Loudoun, and Prince William. It doesn't tell you whether the students were homeschooled or attended private school before attending TJ.


Interesting. Why does fcps open up TJ to other non FCPS students? Is that stipulated somewhere? With the demand of interest, doesn’t make sense.


TJ isn't an FCPS school, it's a governor's school. It's for all the districts that want it (not ACPS, they have declined).


In fact, FCPS numbers would go down to ~ 40-50% if PWC took all of their spots.


since the no of students is supposed to be allocated according to population of the counties/citi

It should be approximately:

Fairfax 40%, PWC 30%, Loudoun 20%, Arlington 9%, FCC 1%.


This will be the composition in 5 years.


No, the distance is a real deterrent. There's no way around it.


+1 they have trouble getting kids from southern Fairfax county to attend, that’s a lot closer than most of prince William
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2022 08:59     Subject: Re:TJ Students by FCPS Pyramid 2022-23

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:any idea about home school or out of county (Loudoun, PW) or private school


This is based on FCPS data about "transfers" within FCPS pyramids. The only other thing one can discern from this data is that 68% of current TJ students (1345 in total) live in Fairfax County and the other 32% presumably live in Arlington, FCC, Loudoun, and Prince William. It doesn't tell you whether the students were homeschooled or attended private school before attending TJ.


Interesting. Why does fcps open up TJ to other non FCPS students? Is that stipulated somewhere? With the demand of interest, doesn’t make sense.


TJ isn't an FCPS school, it's a governor's school. It's for all the districts that want it (not ACPS, they have declined).


In fact, FCPS numbers would go down to ~ 40-50% if PWC took all of their spots.


since the no of students is supposed to be allocated according to population of the counties/citi

It should be approximately:

Fairfax 40%, PWC 30%, Loudoun 20%, Arlington 9%, FCC 1%.


This will be the composition in 5 years.


No, the distance is a real deterrent. There's no way around it.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2022 08:37     Subject: Re:TJ Students by FCPS Pyramid 2022-23

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:any idea about home school or out of county (Loudoun, PW) or private school


This is based on FCPS data about "transfers" within FCPS pyramids. The only other thing one can discern from this data is that 68% of current TJ students (1345 in total) live in Fairfax County and the other 32% presumably live in Arlington, FCC, Loudoun, and Prince William. It doesn't tell you whether the students were homeschooled or attended private school before attending TJ.


Interesting. Why does fcps open up TJ to other non FCPS students? Is that stipulated somewhere? With the demand of interest, doesn’t make sense.


TJ isn't an FCPS school, it's a governor's school. It's for all the districts that want it (not ACPS, they have declined).


In fact, FCPS numbers would go down to ~ 40-50% if PWC took all of their spots.


since the no of students is supposed to be allocated according to population of the counties/citi

It should be approximately:

Fairfax 40%, PWC 30%, Loudoun 20%, Arlington 9%, FCC 1%.


This will be the composition in 5 years.


and 85% from Curie!
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2022 08:36     Subject: TJ Students by FCPS Pyramid 2022-23

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like my kid can still get in via the automatic 5%. At least it appears that they're making an effort to serve the whole county now.


Agree it's better than just serving the families likely to invest heavy in prep but they need to set an upper bound too. Too many seats going to a handful of wealthy schools is not great.


I seriously doubt GPA 3.95 in some low represented county MS is same as getting GPA of 3.95 in Carson etc. I see these differences even in MS AAP school where feeder local AAP school student level of undertsanding is quiet low compare to student from center AAP schools.


It does but keep telling yourself these self-serving notions.