Anonymous
Post 12/16/2022 09:29     Subject: Fed 2023 salary table
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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how Houston's locality pay is higher than DC's. That's some funny business.


Wonder if it’s for NASA— I think Huntsville Ala gets a surprisingly good locality pay too?


The locality pay is supposed to reflect comparable private sector pay in the area, not necessarily COL.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2022 04:33     Subject: Re:Fed 2023 salary table
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Anonymous wrote:What about executive service? Anyone know if their pay will unfreeze? Or if there is a cola in the freeze?


SES caps will increase by 4.1%. last year they increased by 2.2%


Thanks for the info, but I’m talking about EX not SES. This table: https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/salary-tables/pdf/2022/EX.pdf


Lol. EX schedule will also increase by 4.1%. Last year they increased by 2.2%. It’s been 3 or 4 years since EX pay was frozen. They increase too when there is an across the board pay raise. EX just don’t get the COLA portion.


It’s a bit more nuanced than that. BUT, you are right. The level of pay at each tier of the EX will increase accordingly


Yeah, EX is definitely not treated the same as SES. They increase the numbers in the table every year because other salaries are benchmarked to them, but my understanding is they have been held constant to the pay freeze for a number of years. They definitely don’t make what the table shows.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2022 00:49     Subject: Fed 2023 salary table
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how Houston's locality pay is higher than DC's. That's some funny business.


Wonder if it’s for NASA— I think Huntsville Ala gets a surprisingly good locality pay too?


It's because DC included WVA and rural PA in their locality.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 23:17     Subject: Fed 2023 salary table
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how Houston's locality pay is higher than DC's. That's some funny business.


Wonder if it’s for NASA— I think Huntsville Ala gets a surprisingly good locality pay too?
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 23:10     Subject: Fed 2023 salary table
otherwise, it's effectively another pay cut
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 23:10     Subject: Fed 2023 salary table
With November 2021 CPI + November 2022 CPI, it's 14% inflation. Why are we only talking about 4.6%??? Should be more like 10%+
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 22:15     Subject: Fed 2023 salary table
I don't understand how Houston's locality pay is higher than DC's. That's some funny business.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 22:05     Subject: Re:Fed 2023 salary table
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What about executive service? Anyone know if their pay will unfreeze? Or if there is a cola in the freeze?


SES caps will increase by 4.1%. last year they increased by 2.2%


Thanks for the info, but I’m talking about EX not SES. This table: https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/salary-tables/pdf/2022/EX.pdf


Lol. EX schedule will also increase by 4.1%. Last year they increased by 2.2%. It’s been 3 or 4 years since EX pay was frozen. They increase too when there is an across the board pay raise. EX just don’t get the COLA portion.


It’s a bit more nuanced than that. BUT, you are right. The level of pay at each tier of the EX will increase accordingly
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 21:58     Subject: Re:Fed 2023 salary table
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What about executive service? Anyone know if their pay will unfreeze? Or if there is a cola in the freeze?


SES caps will increase by 4.1%. last year they increased by 2.2%


Thanks for the info, but I’m talking about EX not SES. This table: https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/salary-tables/pdf/2022/EX.pdf


Lol. EX schedule will also increase by 4.1%. Last year they increased by 2.2%. It’s been 3 or 4 years since EX pay was frozen. They increase too when there is an across the board pay raise. EX just don’t get the COLA portion.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 20:51     Subject: Re:Fed 2023 salary table
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What about executive service? Anyone know if their pay will unfreeze? Or if there is a cola in the freeze?


SES caps will increase by 4.1%. last year they increased by 2.2%


Thanks for the info, but I’m talking about EX not SES. This table: https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/salary-tables/pdf/2022/EX.pdf
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 20:38     Subject: Re:Fed 2023 salary table
Anonymous wrote:What about executive service? Anyone know if their pay will unfreeze? Or if there is a cola in the freeze?


SES caps will increase by 4.1%. last year they increased by 2.2%
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 20:37     Subject: Fed 2023 salary table
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:it's possible the cap may be $195k


ok, i'll bite. how did you come up with that number?


at DMV COLA onto the base pay in that fedpay table. I know 15/10 will actually be capped at $183,500. but it's interesting to see that number should be 12k higher if the cap isn't tied to level 4 of the executive schedule. For a temporary fix they should tie it to level 3 of the executive schedule. that's probably a 2 year band-aid fix.


So 15s get more than lvl 4? You know that’s never gonna happen.


well the tiered executive schedule is stupid too. Technically a GS-15 could earn more or the same as executives at tier 5 and 4. Do we even have tier 5 and 4 ES positions anymore? Who would ever do SES for $140k?
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 16:56     Subject: Re:Fed 2023 salary table
What about executive service? Anyone know if their pay will unfreeze? Or if there is a cola in the freeze?
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 16:37     Subject: Fed 2023 salary table
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:it's possible the cap may be $195k


ok, i'll bite. how did you come up with that number?


at DMV COLA onto the base pay in that fedpay table. I know 15/10 will actually be capped at $183,500. but it's interesting to see that number should be 12k higher if the cap isn't tied to level 4 of the executive schedule. For a temporary fix they should tie it to level 3 of the executive schedule. that's probably a 2 year band-aid fix.


So 15s get more than lvl 4? You know that’s never gonna happen.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2022 16:31     Subject: Fed 2023 salary table
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:it's possible the cap may be $195k


ok, i'll bite. how did you come up with that number?


at DMV COLA onto the base pay in that fedpay table. I know 15/10 will actually be capped at $183,500. but it's interesting to see that number should be 12k higher if the cap isn't tied to level 4 of the executive schedule. For a temporary fix they should tie it to level 3 of the executive schedule. that's probably a 2 year band-aid fix.