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Anonymous wrote:Housing was expensive then too. People like making excuses for the lazy.

Not like today. Back in the 90s I worked a series of crap jobs and I was able to afford to live in nice neighborhoods in Boston and San Francisco. The studio apartment I rented back in 2000 for $750 a month now goes for $3500. Incomes have not increased anywhere near that level in the last 20 years.

Exactly. My friends and I rented an entire house for $400/mo in 1992-93. You can’t even get a studio for that now.

$400 in 1992 is $850 Today. You can rent a place for $850. Excuses.

Where can you rent a house for $850?

Well, you can rent a house for about $3k and share with 2 or 3 others, bringing the rent down.

PP said they shared the $400 (today's $850) rent for a SFH.

Just face it - you are clueless about housing costs in 2023.

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Anonymous wrote:Housing was expensive then too. People like making excuses for the lazy.

Not like today. Back in the 90s I worked a series of crap jobs and I was able to afford to live in nice neighborhoods in Boston and San Francisco. The studio apartment I rented back in 2000 for $750 a month now goes for $3500. Incomes have not increased anywhere near that level in the last 20 years.

Exactly. My friends and I rented an entire house for $400/mo in 1992-93. You can’t even get a studio for that now.

$400 in 1992 is $850 Today. You can rent a place for $850. Excuses.

NP you have to be so out of touch to think you can rent something for $850… a parking spot downtown starts at $300/month. Maybe $250 if you have a friendly neighbor who is willing to cut you a deal.
In 2011 my DH and I were paying $2100 for a crummy English basement 1 bedroom downtown. Same unit is easily $2800 today.

A 2 bedroom begins at $3000+. A 3 bedroom apt probably rents for $4000-$4500. This would be non-luxury units rented out by owners. However you splice that it’s $1500 a pop plus utilities on top (think electric $100/month split).

That’s $20,000/year to be generous. How did you do that at 18 and go to school? Let’s say you have college loans too.

Minimum wage is $16.5 in dc. You works a FT 40 hr/week job and that’s $34,320 before tax. Approximately $28,000 after tax. The math just doesn’t work out at the beginning. You need to get some savings under you. A few years of strategic decisions and you can get your own place.

Why does a single, childless individual need a car when living downtown?

The don’t. I was using the price of a parking spot to demonstrate that the posters perspective on the purchasing power of $850 is not in proportion to todays economy.

You are probably below roommate poster too. All those examples except for the 1 bedroom is a roommate situation.

In 2000s so many young adults shared row houses in Adams Morgan. You paid $600-$1100/room depending on how nice a room you got divvied. Look on the market today the only row house for rent in Admo is a $7900 house. Around 2010 there was a huge swing in market. Group houses for tenants became nearly obsolete, new luxury apartments came in, row homes for flipped and sold as luxury real estate.

I 100% believe in working hard and saving and all that jazz. I also simultaneously recognize that it is honestly a lot harder to find affordable housing in dc. Unless you are going to squeeze two people to a bedroom, which landlords are not ok with anymore btw, it’s just really hard to younger people to find a room under $1500. That’s just a market reality.

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Anonymous wrote:Housing was expensive then too. People like making excuses for the lazy.

Not like today. Back in the 90s I worked a series of crap jobs and I was able to afford to live in nice neighborhoods in Boston and San Francisco. The studio apartment I rented back in 2000 for $750 a month now goes for $3500. Incomes have not increased anywhere near that level in the last 20 years.

Exactly. My friends and I rented an entire house for $400/mo in 1992-93. You can’t even get a studio for that now.

$400 in 1992 is $850 Today. You can rent a place for $850. Excuses.

NP you have to be so out of touch to think you can rent something for $850… a parking spot downtown starts at $300/month. Maybe $250 if you have a friendly neighbor who is willing to cut you a deal.
In 2011 my DH and I were paying $2100 for a crummy English basement 1 bedroom downtown. Same unit is easily $2800 today.

A 2 bedroom begins at $3000+. A 3 bedroom apt probably rents for $4000-$4500. This would be non-luxury units rented out by owners. However you splice that it’s $1500 a pop plus utilities on top (think electric $100/month split).

That’s $20,000/year to be generous. How did you do that at 18 and go to school? Let’s say you have college loans too.

Minimum wage is $16.5 in dc. You works a FT 40 hr/week job and that’s $34,320 before tax. Approximately $28,000 after tax. The math just doesn’t work out at the beginning. You need to get some savings under you. A few years of strategic decisions and you can get your own place.

Let me introduce you to the concept of having roommates.

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Anonymous wrote:Housing was expensive then too. People like making excuses for the lazy.

Not like today. Back in the 90s I worked a series of crap jobs and I was able to afford to live in nice neighborhoods in Boston and San Francisco. The studio apartment I rented back in 2000 for $750 a month now goes for $3500. Incomes have not increased anywhere near that level in the last 20 years.

Exactly. My friends and I rented an entire house for $400/mo in 1992-93. You can’t even get a studio for that now.

$400 in 1992 is $850 Today. You can rent a place for $850. Excuses.

NP you have to be so out of touch to think you can rent something for $850… a parking spot downtown starts at $300/month. Maybe $250 if you have a friendly neighbor who is willing to cut you a deal.
In 2011 my DH and I were paying $2100 for a crummy English basement 1 bedroom downtown. Same unit is easily $2800 today.

A 2 bedroom begins at $3000+. A 3 bedroom apt probably rents for $4000-$4500. This would be non-luxury units rented out by owners. However you splice that it’s $1500 a pop plus utilities on top (think electric $100/month split).

That’s $20,000/year to be generous. How did you do that at 18 and go to school? Let’s say you have college loans too.

Minimum wage is $16.5 in dc. You works a FT 40 hr/week job and that’s $34,320 before tax. Approximately $28,000 after tax. The math just doesn’t work out at the beginning. You need to get some savings under you. A few years of strategic decisions and you can get your own place.

Why does a single, childless individual need a car when living downtown?

Anonymous wrote:So I moved out my parents house after I graduated from high school, I love my parents but I moved out because I was an 18 year old adult, and now 20-30 SOMETHINGS are still living at home with mommy and daddy what happened?
Are they treating like babies now? I got into a fight with my sister yesterday, because her daughter is 22 and has no plans on moving out, I asked her what she plans on moving out and she has no plans why?

Is English not your first language

Housing has always been expensive for an 18 year old. I lived with 2 other girls in a one-bedroom at that age. We all were students with jobs and grants and loans. It's called coming of age!

Anonymous wrote:Housing was expensive then too. People like making excuses for the lazy.

Literally, 1999 was when housing decoupled and rocketed up.

Anonymous wrote:My 23 yo pays $1500 as half of the rent on an apt. on the exact same street where I paid $410 in 1993.

DC was an incredibly different place ‘90-‘93: crack kingpins, I witnessed a woman being beaten on Logan Cirlcle by a man with a pipe as I was driving back from Union Station, a Cap Hill staffer shot to death going to the corner for a coffee on a Saturday night, a Georgetown student shot riding his bike on O Street. Marion Barry smoking crack. Plus the recession decimated the job market for kids just out of college, law and business school. The rental market and housing market were much softer as well. Real estate development was non-existent and existing apt bldgs and row houses were not renovated (old plumbing and electric, no a/c). It’s no surprise that street went through one if not two renaissances over the past three decades.

In 1999, I was 25, and lived in a shared house in Baltimore and paid $300. I made about $30k. I would have said I was poor, but at least I could afford a room on my own. I had a car, and disasters set me back a lot, but usually I had enough money to go out for drinks and shows, which were priority. By 2001, I made $60k and had a 1-bedroom apartment to myself in DC for $1k. Later, I moved to another shared house in DC for $500, because the higher rent ate into my going-out money.. Yeah, those times were unbelievable and I am sorry the young people today don't have the same experience.

Anonymous wrote:I graduated high school in ‘97. My (older) siblings and I all lived at parents’ home summers during college and (gasp!) a year or two post college. We’re all successfully launched and that couple of years at home helped me with the down payment on my condo.

Glad you had that option.

I graduated high school in ‘97. My (older) siblings and I all lived at parents’ home summers during college and (gasp!) a year or two post college. We’re all successfully launched and that couple of years at home helped me with the down payment on my condo.

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Anonymous wrote:Housing was expensive then too. People like making excuses for the lazy.

Not like today. Back in the 90s I worked a series of crap jobs and I was able to afford to live in nice neighborhoods in Boston and San Francisco. The studio apartment I rented back in 2000 for $750 a month now goes for $3500. Incomes have not increased anywhere near that level in the last 20 years.

Exactly. My friends and I rented an entire house for $400/mo in 1992-93. You can’t even get a studio for that now.

$400 in 1992 is $850 Today. You can rent a place for $850. Excuses.

NP you have to be so out of touch to think you can rent something for $850… a parking spot downtown starts at $300/month. Maybe $250 if you have a friendly neighbor who is willing to cut you a deal.
In 2011 my DH and I were paying $2100 for a crummy English basement 1 bedroom downtown. Same unit is easily $2800 today.

A 2 bedroom begins at $3000+. A 3 bedroom apt probably rents for $4000-$4500. This would be non-luxury units rented out by owners. However you splice that it’s $1500 a pop plus utilities on top (think electric $100/month split).

That’s $20,000/year to be generous. How did you do that at 18 and go to school? Let’s say you have college loans too.

Minimum wage is $16.5 in dc. You works a FT 40 hr/week job and that’s $34,320 before tax. Approximately $28,000 after tax. The math just doesn’t work out at the beginning. You need to get some savings under you. A few years of strategic decisions and you can get your own place.

Because Gen Z doesn’t want to work and aren’t career oriented.

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Anonymous wrote:What does this have to do with the summer of 99? What a disappointing thread.

MYOB with your sister’s family

I graduated from high school in June 1999, and moved out in the summer of 1999. Of course we have different political views but still.

Tell me you're a self centered braggart without telling me you're a self centered braggart. Are there any other achievements you can't believe other people haven't done too? I bet you have many ways to feel superior.

What’s her TikTok? I’m pretty sure she talked about you, would to see it