Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Per the lawsuit:
12 percent of DC residents have mobility disabilities
Three-quarters of them are African American
One third of them are over the age of 65
Bicyclists five times more likely to be white than Black
Bicyclists predominantly male, white, 25-40, higher income
So bike lanes are racially biased? Is that the argument? So airports are racially biased too then. Shall we shut them down too. Highways are probably racially biased also. Let’s make sure we pull them out along with it. Just so that we take full advantage of the opportunity presented by this lawsuit, please make a long list of every piece of infrastructure that is used less frequently by black people and bring them to the attention of the necessary authorities.
According to some of the Connecticut Ave bike lane proponents, that was indeed one of the reasons why bike lanes were needed. They said, and it's all in the big thread if you don't believe me, that the road was primarily used by white people and therefore bike lanes were needed for equity reasons.
How nice. But, luckily for them, they weren’t stupid enough to make such claims the center piece of a lawsuit.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Per the lawsuit:
12 percent of DC residents have mobility disabilities
Three-quarters of them are African American
One third of them are over the age of 65
Bicyclists five times more likely to be white than Black
Bicyclists predominantly male, white, 25-40, higher income
So bike lanes are racially biased? Is that the argument? So airports are racially biased too then. Shall we shut them down too. Highways are probably racially biased also. Let’s make sure we pull them out along with it. Just so that we take full advantage of the opportunity presented by this lawsuit, please make a long list of every piece of infrastructure that is used less frequently by black people and bring them to the attention of the necessary authorities.
According to some of the Connecticut Ave bike lane proponents, that was indeed one of the reasons why bike lanes were needed. They said, and it's all in the big thread if you don't believe me, that the road was primarily used by white people and therefore bike lanes were needed for equity reasons.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We have to figure out how everyone can share the roads together. We all have rights to them no matter the modality.
Read the lawsuit. It says that there are ways to accommodate both public transit with full access to the curb plus bicycles. However, the district intentionally selected a plan that did not include ADA accommodations for both drivers and passengers. The current plants require disabled drivers and passengers to stop and unload and assemble/configure their wheelchair in an actively used bicycle lane then have to direct their wheelchair to the nearest corner for them to access the curb and sidewalk.
The way to accomplish what you suggest is for the district to follow the federal law and select a plan that allows ADA accessible access to the curb and sidewalk without having to disembark their vehicles or public transit in active traffic lanes and to travel in the street to a corner in order to access the sidewalk. There are several proposed options, but the district ignored all of them when selecting their design plans. The lawsuit is trying to force them to reconsider and use one of the ADA accessible options.
How is this different from the current state of affairs? Right now, they still have to exit into an active lane of traffic and assemble the wheelchair in a treebox, or walk to the corner to get to a curbcut. If anything this is an improvement because they could assemble the wheelchair in the bikelane, then take the bikelane to the curb cut. This is a cheap attack on bike lanes.
You can't understand why I want my child on the safety of the grass ad not in traffic? Really? Do you let your child play in traffic, or is it just those of us whose children use wheelchairs that you think should do so?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Per the lawsuit:
12 percent of DC residents have mobility disabilities
Three-quarters of them are African American
One third of them are over the age of 65
Bicyclists five times more likely to be white than Black
Bicyclists predominantly male, white, 25-40, higher income
So bike lanes are racially biased? Is that the argument? So airports are racially biased too then. Shall we shut them down too. Highways are probably racially biased also. Let’s make sure we pull them out along with it. Just so that we take full advantage of the opportunity presented by this lawsuit, please make a long list of every piece of infrastructure that is used less frequently by black people and bring them to the attention of the necessary authorities.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Per the lawsuit:
12 percent of DC residents have mobility disabilities
Three-quarters of them are African American
One third of them are over the age of 65
Bicyclists five times more likely to be white than Black
Bicyclists predominantly male, white, 25-40, higher income
So bike lanes are racially biased? Is that the argument? So airports are racially biased too then. Shall we shut them down too. Highways are probably racially biased also. Let’s make sure we pull them out along with it. Just so that we take full advantage of the opportunity presented by this lawsuit, please make a long list of every piece of infrastructure that is used less frequently by black people and bring them to the attention of the necessary authorities.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Per the lawsuit:
12 percent of DC residents have mobility disabilities
Three-quarters of them are African American
One third of them are over the age of 65
Bicyclists five times more likely to be white than Black
Bicyclists predominantly male, white, 25-40, higher income
When you have no decent argument, pulling the race card may just be your best option.
No decent argument? The city does not stand a chance of winning this suit.
Anonymous wrote:Per the lawsuit:
12 percent of DC residents have mobility disabilities
Three-quarters of them are African American
One third of them are over the age of 65
Bicyclists five times more likely to be white than Black
Bicyclists predominantly male, white, 25-40, higher income
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We have to figure out how everyone can share the roads together. We all have rights to them no matter the modality.
Read the lawsuit. It says that there are ways to accommodate both public transit with full access to the curb plus bicycles. However, the district intentionally selected a plan that did not include ADA accommodations for both drivers and passengers. The current plants require disabled drivers and passengers to stop and unload and assemble/configure their wheelchair in an actively used bicycle lane then have to direct their wheelchair to the nearest corner for them to access the curb and sidewalk.
The way to accomplish what you suggest is for the district to follow the federal law and select a plan that allows ADA accessible access to the curb and sidewalk without having to disembark their vehicles or public transit in active traffic lanes and to travel in the street to a corner in order to access the sidewalk. There are several proposed options, but the district ignored all of them when selecting their design plans. The lawsuit is trying to force them to reconsider and use one of the ADA accessible options.
How is this different from the current state of affairs? Right now, they still have to exit into an active lane of traffic and assemble the wheelchair in a treebox, or walk to the corner to get to a curbcut. If anything this is an improvement because they could assemble the wheelchair in the bikelane, then take the bikelane to the curb cut. This is a cheap attack on bike lanes.
Is this a joke? They would get mowed down by some a**hole on an ebike going 30mph.
From what I see on 15th street, the bicyclists stop for pedestrians far more than drivers. There are crosswalks without a stop sign so you can get a good comparison.
From what I know of being a pedestrian downtown, bicyclists never stop for anyone.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Per the lawsuit:
12 percent of DC residents have mobility disabilities
Three-quarters of them are African American
One third of them are over the age of 65
Bicyclists five times more likely to be white than Black
Bicyclists predominantly male, white, 25-40, higher income
When you have no decent argument, pulling the race card may just be your best option.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Per the lawsuit:
12 percent of DC residents have mobility disabilities
Three-quarters of them are African American
One third of them are over the age of 65
Bicyclists five times more likely to be white than Black
Bicyclists predominantly male, white, 25-40, higher income
When you have no decent argument, pulling the race card may just be your best option.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We have to figure out how everyone can share the roads together. We all have rights to them no matter the modality.
Read the lawsuit. It says that there are ways to accommodate both public transit with full access to the curb plus bicycles. However, the district intentionally selected a plan that did not include ADA accommodations for both drivers and passengers. The current plants require disabled drivers and passengers to stop and unload and assemble/configure their wheelchair in an actively used bicycle lane then have to direct their wheelchair to the nearest corner for them to access the curb and sidewalk.
The way to accomplish what you suggest is for the district to follow the federal law and select a plan that allows ADA accessible access to the curb and sidewalk without having to disembark their vehicles or public transit in active traffic lanes and to travel in the street to a corner in order to access the sidewalk. There are several proposed options, but the district ignored all of them when selecting their design plans. The lawsuit is trying to force them to reconsider and use one of the ADA accessible options.
Anonymous wrote:Per the lawsuit:
12 percent of DC residents have mobility disabilities
Three-quarters of them are African American
One third of them are over the age of 65
Bicyclists five times more likely to be white than Black
Bicyclists predominantly male, white, 25-40, higher income
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We have to figure out how everyone can share the roads together. We all have rights to them no matter the modality.
Read the lawsuit. It says that there are ways to accommodate both public transit with full access to the curb plus bicycles. However, the district intentionally selected a plan that did not include ADA accommodations for both drivers and passengers. The current plants require disabled drivers and passengers to stop and unload and assemble/configure their wheelchair in an actively used bicycle lane then have to direct their wheelchair to the nearest corner for them to access the curb and sidewalk.
The way to accomplish what you suggest is for the district to follow the federal law and select a plan that allows ADA accessible access to the curb and sidewalk without having to disembark their vehicles or public transit in active traffic lanes and to travel in the street to a corner in order to access the sidewalk. There are several proposed options, but the district ignored all of them when selecting their design plans. The lawsuit is trying to force them to reconsider and use one of the ADA accessible options.
How is this different from the current state of affairs? Right now, they still have to exit into an active lane of traffic and assemble the wheelchair in a treebox, or walk to the corner to get to a curbcut. If anything this is an improvement because they could assemble the wheelchair in the bikelane, then take the bikelane to the curb cut. This is a cheap attack on bike lanes.
Is this a joke? They would get mowed down by some a**hole on an ebike going 30mph.
From what I see on 15th street, the bicyclists stop for pedestrians far more than drivers. There are crosswalks without a stop sign so you can get a good comparison.
From what I know of being a pedestrian downtown, bicyclists never stop for anyone.